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1. There are white people who encourage stereotypes when speaking about minority groups.
2. White people encourage stereotypes when speaking about minority groups.
originally posted by: mrpotatoe27
I wouldn't say that white people are getting targeted. I'd say that white males are getting targeted.
Someone calls me a honky, cracker, fishbelly, or anything other racial insult, it's fine. I say anything back, I'm racist.
My "privilege" needs to get checked wherever I go according to some feminists/social justice warriors.
What is that privilege? It the privilege of being the most likely to get hurt or die in a workplace accident, the privilege of being unable to get adequate mental health help, the privilege of being turned away from homeless shelters and domestic abuse shelters (A man could NEVER get psychically or mentally abused), the privilege of being sent off against my will to fight in a foreign land, the privilege of being unfairly treated by the legal system, and the privilege of being blamed for every bad thing ever done in history against a non white group.
Sure seems like the odds are stacked if you think about it. Just for being a certain skin color in America now, you can get free education, free job training, free healthcare, and free food. My mom making 36k a year before taxes only qualified for partial food stamps. My black friend's mom across town made 38K a year before taxes and she had 100% food stamps. He told me how when the check would come in, they would get 100 bucks worth of fast food and 150 bucks worth of groceries and the rest were spent on Jordans and new purses. The goddamn local government paid for their rent. Why couldn't I get the same treatment? My skin color.
If you don't think a prejudice exists against white males by the government of the US and Canada, you are sadly mistaken
Maybe we should just accept that people in the past were racist and huge a holes and just make everything equal for everyone.
originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: Petros312
I had one white friend from Utah that would be treated crappily down here in south florida if he didn't speak spanish when he went to a store.
I'm hispanic white and have been called a cracker before because I spoke english well.
Take that for whatever it's worth.
Bias goes in every direction it seems.
originally posted by: Petros312
If you care to discuss this, let's remember there are two definitions for the word "prejudice," and the difference is not obvious:
1. An unjustifiable negative attitude, belief, or statement about a whole group of people.
2. bias based on opinion
Every single human being is "prejudiced" if by prejudiced you mean biased. We each have subjective experiences that form a preference for understanding the world. We each have different levels of proficiencies. We've been influenced by different books, by unique teachers, and by courses of study. This leads inevitably to a bias, and even the most ardent empiricist who believes in objectivity must still observe the world through his or her own eyes. If you use the word "prejudice" to mean "bias" in the following discussion, you will be misunderstood and unclear because we are each utterly "prejudiced" in this way.
However, the term "prejudice" in the question at hand refers to a much more narrow type of bias that is not simply based on having a negative attitude or making negative statements, it's when done in an overgeneralized and unjustifiable way that supposedly pertains to a whole group of people that share some common attribute, such as ethnicity or gender. This type of prejudice is derived from negative attitudes, but it's also the result of the language being used to express this attitude. Two people can have the same attitude about a group of people and only one makes a prejudiced statement. For example:
1. There are white people who encourage stereotypes when speaking about minority groups.
2. White people encourage stereotypes when speaking about minority groups.
The above statements do not mean the same thing, and the difference between them is that the second statement is a prejudiced statement. Because there is no "qualifier" before the term "white people," the statement can validly be understood to mean "all white people" in general, which would be unjustifiable. In cases like this, it's not the responsibility of the reader to know if the writer meant "a lot of white people," or "some white people," or "white people I know," or "the one white person I know who did this." Hence, language itself can be the source of prejudice if what you are saying is said in a way that is an overgeneralized negative statement about a whole group of people.
If you can't get past the problem of how language itself results in prejudiced statements, and you could care less how you express yourself because of something like "freedom of speech," please don't post something here unless you EXPECT to be confronted with negative replies.
So, given the preface above, I invite you to consider whether or not what some people in the USA are calling a widespread trend to be prejudiced toward white people. For reference, you can read this short article about it, which is a bit dated but is still relevant today:
Are whites racially oppressed?
There's a group of Caucasian (white) Americans who honestly believe their society encourages oppression against them. They believe that there is no longer a "white" majority because whites are now the victims of systemic racial prejudice through a variety of sources (laws, affirmative action, feminists, minority groups, etc.).
From the article, author Peter Brimelow says " 'Americans are trained to think that any explicit defense of white interests is 'racist.' " A radio show host, James Edwards, says, "Whatever mistakes might have been made in our pasts, they have not only been corrected, but they've been overcompensated for," so that apparently now "whites are victims of pervasive racism," which is manifested by a situation in which "Anything a white conservative does that a liberal doesn't like is called racism." Interestingly, as author Tim Wise put it: "This racial unease is more pronounced among older white Americans, who grew up in an era where America's icons were virtually all white..."
I have read at ATS already the notion that younger people have been "indoctrinated" when it comes to what is and what is not prejudice, and that prejudice against white people has become institutionalized. So, there are people at ATS who agree that white Americans have generally become the victims of persecution. Are these people spreading a myth?--perhaps struggling with personal issues and experiences that don't quite add up to a whole system of prejudice against white Americans? Or, is it an accurate statement to say that whites are racially oppressed?