Poor nurse was put in quarantine, let me be the first to share my feelings

Poor Kaci Hickox*, was put under quarantine in "horrible" circumstances, after returning home from volunteering in Africa.

We are all to believe Kaci is a modern day hero, risking her life on another continent, to return home and be treated like filth.

While I do agree it's far from perfect, even good, the way things are being handled, let's be a bit realistic here, and admit to ourselves the hypocrisy of, on one hand, all screaming together at the perceived incompetence, to then, when "extreme" measures are FINALLY taken, all switch sides and yell in harmony at the outrage that is this PREMATURE quarantine effort.


But let's get to the meat of my post.


I think we should all take a minute here and think of the arrogance this woman is displaying, as a measure of our, at times, pathetic, even disgusting, western standards and morals.




She spent months in between horrible suffering and agony. She witnessed, undoubtedly, families being ripped apart, people dying in unimaginable pain, bleeding from places I had before never even dared imagine. She must have had her perspective on the world shaken, at least, my life would never be the same again.


And yet, after this experience, she is STILL not humble enough to endure her own "suffering" in peace, knowing she can leave all of that behind her to reunite with her beloved ones, in her safe and trusted environment.


I'm sorry if you do not agree, but I am disgusted by this display, no matter how right she could be.



They could have PROBED me and I'm 100% convinced that what I had experienced up to DAYS before, would weigh a bit heavier on my mind than HAVING TO SPEND 7 HOURS SITTING STILL.

The poor souls who died of the disease are TURNING AROUND IN THEIR COLLECTIVE GRAVES I'm sure.


Just fyi, I have a close relative who went to Africa two years back and what he saw there has changed him in very noticeable ways. The worse he saw were albino children and it broke his heart. I SIMPLY CANT BELIEVE this woman was there for other people, if as soon as she gets back, ITS ALL ABOUT HER ALL OVER AGAIN.

She went there for the attention and she made sure she would get it upon returning. No humble human beings with true altruistic motives would return from a battlefield to whine about the "inconveniences" they experience themselves upon returning,

By the way, I feel accusations coming that I think she somehow planned for this to happen. I'm sure she didnt, but when given this "opportunity" one cant't deny she took it with both hands and squeezed out of it what she could. I wouldnt be surprised if she were to demand damages soon, lets see



* lets make sure the world will remember who this brave heroic woman was

I agree 100%. Why don't these people take it upon themselves to quarantine themselves for the proper amount of time before they fly home? I mean, they, above all should know how long they have to wait. Regardless of whether they "know if they're sick or not." It's not like you know the second you are infected.

I said in a different thread about how I can smell my sickness (colds etc. and ebola acts like a cold, at first) in my breath and feel it in my body, moving through me. By the time I feel those things, all I can do is take preventative measures...I know I've got some cootie in me, so I am sure to isolate myself as best I can.

If these 'altruistic' helpers (puppies and kittens bless them) are so truly selfless, they shouldn't mind taking a month or two rest (vacation!? ffs), to be certain they're not going to endanger anyone.

a reply to: Hushabye

Its not only that, my mind just cant comprehend how anyone can complain about this AFTER WHAT THEY SAW AND EXPERIENCED


Is it a common trait of nurses to become so apathetic to all the suffering they see, that all they can feel sorry for anymore is themselves? I doubt it, this is just a vile woman, sorry. It's already been established she has high connections and I wont be surprised at anything anymore people will do to get "famous", including this.


I'll repeat, I know someone who had his entire worldview shaken after seeing albino kids in Africa, I really cant understand how ebola can not have a similar effect, let alone cause you to complain about having to sit still

I fully agree OP.

The arrogance and entitlement this woman is showing is astonishing. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure and it's hard to understand that someone who has seen the suffering in W. Africa should fail to grasp it.

While I agree that some thought ought to be given to her comfort and compensation for undergoing a mandatory quarantine, it's not for the average citizen to be responsible for but her employer or whoever sponsored her stint in the affected area.

I have no respect for her. She knows well how bad this virus is yet she complains about a common sense tactic to protect Americans.

Talk to the hand, woman. No one else cares.

She's whining on one of the news channels right now. My mother turned it off in disgust.

a reply to: NoNameNeeded

This is what happens when there is no direct leadership on this issue.

What has the czar to say about this?
I haven't heard one thing from this guy yet!

This nurse needs to suck it up, she went there with the pretense to help, whether it was her career or people is irrevelent now. These healthcare workers need to speak with others that have been effected by this plague here in the USA, just because she's not afraid doesn't mean others aren't.
The way to stop this is to be vigilant, finally they are starting to do this and these people want it rolled back.

Why should I trust this nurse when she comes off as an entitled, disassociated fruitcake!

originally posted by: Spruce
She's whining on one of the news channels right now. My mother turned it off in disgust.

Obviously, we need a face to go with that name, shes horny for exposure

"Look at me everybody, I'll tell you all how it's supposed to be done, after all I've been there!"



It's one thing to get your point across, it's another to have your face all over the news when trying to do so.

a reply to: NoNameNeeded

This story came on the news at the very same time I opened the thread, synchronicity!

Does she really not understand why she was being held in the airport. Come on, she knew why officials were holding her, because she was returning from Africa and had been treating those with Ebola. Apparently at one point she had a temp register at 101 and that was only because she was flushed at not understanding why she was being held.

Glad her life is more important than everyone else's.

She plans on taking action against the state, what a joke.

She was treated like a criminal because of someone's uniform?

“One man who must have been an immigration officer because he was wearing a weapon belt that I could see protruding from his white coveralls barked questions at me as if I was a criminal,” she said.

“I realized that information was only shared with me if I asked. Eight police cars escorted me to the University Hospital in Newark. Sirens blared, lights flashed. Again, I wondered what I had done wrong.”

She just doesn't get it apparently and is urging other aid workers not to travel to Africa to help. That is a little fishy to me, is that what she's trying to achieve?
She said her temperature had been taken a few times; it was 98.6F on the oral thermometer and 101F on her forehead. She said that her face was just flushed when the 101 temperature was taken, and her blood tests were negative for Ebola.

Ebola nurse Kaci Hickox says she was 'made to feel like a criminal' after return home to US

a reply to: NoNameNeeded

you do know she works for the CDC, don't you?

This is indeed sickening.

Before I go further, I'd just like to apologize for the rambling nature of this post. The ol' brain starts to act funny after being awake close to 40 hours.

Anyway ------------->

I just want to say, that this disgusting display is not indicative of all nurses. In fact, I would say 99% of us would certainly not act in this manner.

We do see and deal with horrid things, that is certainly true. BUT ---> If I were coming back from Africa, and had to be quarantined - I would certainly welcome it. It's done to protect others, and ourselves as well.
It would provide the perfect time for reflection, and to process what had occurred. And for that matter, if they let me have an internet connected device - it would be the perfect time to catch up with everything here on ATS! LOL

By the way this nurse is acting, you'd think she was being strung up and tortured.

While it's true that nurses stick together as one big family; that doesn't mean we wouldn't quickly work together to have her "voted off the island" per se. She wouldn't last one week working with other nurses in my area. We just don't have the time or patience, for that matter, to deal with a nurse that is not 100% focused on their patients, and the task at hand. Her shocking behavior plainly shows that she could very well be a danger.

Anddddddddddddddddd. That's all I have to say about that.

Who didn't see this coming.....

Kaci Hickox, nurse held under New Jersey's mandatory Ebola quarantine, has hired civil rights attorney Norman Siegel to challenge her detention; 'The policy is overly broad as applied,' lawyer says - @jdavidgoodman

I've been stunned since Snyderman that people can't seem to comprehend just exactly why they should just stay home for 21 days.

The only true star in this whole mess has been Pham. She was, by all accounts, doing exactly what she should have been doing - staying home and taking care of herself and not intentionally putting anyone else in harm's way. Presumably, her boyfriend knew exactly what risks he was taking by being there with her.

Just about everyone else has been mucked up display of selfishness.

But then again, people who cannot govern themselves must be governed. So if you can't do the adult thing and keep yourself home ... then I guess the government must keep you there.

originally posted by: MrLimpet
Who didn't see this coming.....

Kaci Hickox, nurse held under New Jersey's mandatory Ebola quarantine, has hired civil rights attorney Norman Siegel to challenge her detention; 'The policy is overly broad as applied,' lawyer says - @jdavidgoodman

Well I did..

And I bet she will get something out of it too.

a reply to: MrLimpet

I think I'm going to puke and I may start bleeding from my eyes.


You have got to be kidding me!?

originally posted by: MrLimpet
Who didn't see this coming.....

Kaci Hickox, nurse held under New Jersey's mandatory Ebola quarantine, has hired civil rights attorney Norman Siegel to challenge her detention; 'The policy is overly broad as applied,' lawyer says - @jdavidgoodman

Kaci Hickox, nurse held under New Jersey's mandatory Ebola quarantine, has hired civil rights attorney Norman Siegel to challenge her detention; 'The policy is overly broad as applied,' lawyer says - @jdavidgoodman

Hmmm.

I wonder if the Administration put the idea in somebody's head?

The White House is extremely jealous of the States right now.

Ebola has become a political minnow.

The bobbers are bouncing.

Yeah, and how about those stupid war veterans? It's not like anyone forced them to sign up for the military. They go to places in the middle east and see horrific stuff - kids being bombed to bits, etc. When they come back, they shouldn't be so selfish as to want some dignity and respect, or to get needed healthcare (whether physical or mental). They should know that we've got too much to do than to worry about their needs all the time. The nerve of some people...

Soldiers and healthcare workers - bah, who needs 'em.

a reply to: kaylaluv

IMHO it's not a fair comparison.

Veteran's can't inadvertently put their fellow citizens in danger.

a reply to: kaylaluv

This isn't about that. This is about discharging the last part of her duty in choosing to serve in a plague zone dealing with a deadly, contagious disease. The final part of her duty that is featured prominently in her Hippocratic (not Hypcratic) Oath is:

I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

If she remembers her oath, then she should know that quarantine until she knows for sure she is free of this disease and cannot hurt anyone else around her is part of the final discharge of her duty in dealing with Ebola. It didn't end when she came home. It ends in 21 days when we all know she didn't bring it home with her, and it seems from her attitude that she has forgotten that. And if she cannot remember, then we must all remember it for her.

a reply to: kosmicjack

They can if they are mentally disturbed. They may not want to hurt others, but may do it anyway. The government has forsaken them, and most Americans feel (rightly) upset about that. The veteran deserves respect and dignity.

My point is, this woman wants respect and dignity too. She wasn't given that at all. She has a right to be upset. It makes me angry to see people putting her down because she complained about how she was treated. She has done good in the world, and she deserved to be treated better. If she's being a whiner, than so are all the veterans who came back from Afghanistan and Iraq.

Edit: Christie did not back down on quarantine policy, but the WH has pressured him and Gov Cuomo
So what is really going on here? Nurse Ebola is going to sue the state for being forced into quarantine, the Prez and his Ebola Czar and the CDC won't act properly, people are worried about people's civil rights being infringed, the virus is allowed to spread by stupidity and refusal to act responsibly....what more could possibly go wrong? Why are they pursuing this tack? So that the virus can spread and ultimately the Prez would have to declare martial law when it gets really outta control?
find it especially disconcerting this nurse really does not understand the reason for her quarantine over a level 4 infectious disease.

She's more worried about the sirens blasting than she is possibly infecting many other people.
Here's an article with a pic of the nurse and Cuomo's reaction. Looks like the WH did indeed apply pressure. One has to wonder why?
www.nytimes.com...
And how outrageous is this....the WH thinks that mandatory quarantine of people who have worked directly with ebola patients is bad policy and making it harder to fight the disease. Like George Orwell's 1984, everything is turned upside down.