UK, Europe on collision course over €2.1bn bill

a reply to: Freeborn

Yes, please try to do that. I see a bright future for your island, not only as money washing machine but an official part of Saudi-Arabia. Stop importing from all other European countries, I totally want to see what happens! Cosy up to Asia and Africa, please. Should be a lot better... So long and fare well.

a reply to: BMorris
So are you in favour of paying the money to the EU and remaining a part of it politically, or not?

a reply to: Peeple
Oh don't be silly.
Do you not understand the leverage that major manufacturing businesses like BMW an Mercedes have over governments?
The rest of the world (and Europe) will continue trading with the UK if it leaves the EU. Or perhaps you think differently?

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Peeple

Do you not understand the leverage that major manufacturing businesses like BMW an Mercedes have over governments?

You are correct.

That's why Merkel was against sanctions being placed on Russia for what happened in The Crimea.

German business was pulling her strings. They do plenty of trade with The Russians.

a reply to: alldaylong
I agree.
The sooner the UK strikes its own deals with other nations is the better in my opinion.
International trade is much better than unchecked immigration for unskilled work and people chasing 'in-work' welfare benefits which are not available in their home countries.

a reply to: alldaylong

Yes. And most of your banking money comes from SA, I.E. you're funding terrorists. What agriculture do you have, what exports do you have, what would you life of (besides sheep and beer) without France, Italy, Netherlands, Poland...? The point is we can live with selling a little less cars, you wouldn't have much to eat without trading with the horrible EU.

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: BMorris
So are you in favour of paying the money to the EU and remaining a part of it politically, or not?

That's not what I said, I said the bill was not unexpected, despite what everyone seems to think. The government knew it was coming. Unless they are totally brain dead, which is a possibility.

As for should we pay it? I'm undecided. I do feel that we should remain in the EU however.

a reply to: BMorris
Cheers for the honest and clarifying reply.
I of course wish for a solely trading arrangement with Europe with the people who govern me being voted for in the UK (and only in the UK). At least we know where we both stand now...thanks.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: alldaylong

Yes. And most of your banking money comes from SA, I.E. you're funding terrorists. What agriculture do you have, what exports do you have, what would you life of (besides sheep and beer) without France, Italy, France, Poland...? The point is we can live with selling a little less cars, you wouldn't have much to eat without trading with the horrible EU.

You know very little about Britain.

Britain is 68% self-sufficient for it's food

www.independent.co.uk...

Britain imports more food from Africa and Asia than it does from The E.U. Why do we do that? Because it's cheaper.

Nice try but massive fail

a reply to: Peeple
What point are you making?
...I don't recall anyone wishing to cease trading with the EU.
Trade is a totally different beast to political union.

a reply to: alldaylong

Nope, please scroll to the upper end of page6, thank you for showing me what a waste of time you are...

a reply to: grainofsand

Page3-5, thanks.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: alldaylong

Nope, please scroll to the upper end of page6, thank you for showing me what a waste of time you are...

I haven't got a clue what you are talking about.

No surprise there then.

a reply to: alldaylong

Totally agree.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: alldaylong

Totally agree.

Well at least we agree that you don't know what your talking about.

Progress has been made.

a reply to: Peeple
Ah,I note you didn't contribute to page 3, perhaps that was just an oversight on your part?
...so what is your point? Or are you just going down the road of directing any questions to previous pages?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: alldaylong

Biggest importers of BMW and Mercedes in the EU?

You guessed it - the UK.

Imagine their reaction if the EU try to restrict trade between Germany and the UK?

They are just the tip of the iceberg - same applies for numerous EU businesses.

The EU lose nothing if they let us go but let us keep the trade agreements.

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: LeBombDiggity
£1.7 billion is a price well worth paying to be rid of the British.

Haha! That's funny as # coming from a French citizen who is enjoying the benefits of living in the UK and supports Scots independence.

I and my Scottish partner live in Edinburgh because she inherited her Father's house on his death. That plus, as a civil servant, she earns more than me and it made more sense financially to stay here. The arrival of 2 children with a third on the way makes the continuity of their education important. Eventually we plan to sell up and retire to France. That'll be maybe 20 years awash at least.

Our life choices have had nothing to do with economic or governmental systems, we're both subject to circumstances and where life has taken us.

So shut the # up.

a reply to: LeBombDiggity

A tad arrogant in your last sentence considering the response was sent after you dissed the British. What was said was correct "don't bite the hand that feeds you".

Rather than get so defensive and rude, don't throw stones in glass houses and then you won't receive responses that offend you in such a way that you need to become so defensive.

Can't stand the heat, stay out the kitchen!

a reply to: flammadraco

I'm not defensive about anything. I'm not in a glass house.

People can diss France, the EU to their hearts contentment. Sometimes I agree, other times less so. And as I agree or disagree with what my own government does, so I'm free to criticise the Brits, the US etc.

But I won't be dissed by anyone on this forum about my own nationality, my place of residence or how I came to live here. That's personal to me and my family and it's none of your #ing business.