If George Patton were alive today, what would he say ?

a reply to: Max_TO

GEN George S. Patton has and will always remain one of my role models. He was a man that spoke the truth unabashedly, which is something that is in short supply in these troubled days.

Although I may be an NCO, I proudly and unwaveringly hold all of my little minions (Privates/Specialists/Sergeants) to the same level of accountability that he would of held his subordinates. Political correctness can eat a big ol' bag of dicks and has NO place in an institution whose sole purpose is to kill the enemy and scour their existence from the face of the Earth.

He is a someone that I would of happily besieged the gates of hell for.

a reply to: NthOther

This may be a difficult concept to grasp, but sometimes the truth hurts.

a reply to: Max_TO

who cares ?????????????????????

seriously - if the contents of the speech have any validity - they retain it if presented as the work of its writer

they do not magically assume validity because " that's what patton would have said "

"Bloody hell, I'm alive!"

a reply to: Max_TO

He was a great man and larger than his image, sadly Patten is not alive and the lilly livered leaders who rule today are not worthy to stand in the same room as his body.
You know he was most likely murdered by Werwolf, en.wikipedia.org... as an act of revenge.
If you type this into google or bing and do a search there are many site I do not know if we can place the url to here but have a look at there controversial theory's.
DID WEREWOLF MURDER GENERAL PATTEN

a reply to: LABTECH767

well that's one theory, another is the OSS, forerunner of the CIA did it.
a man named Douglas Bazata, a known OSS operative claimed to be the one paid to do it, for $10,000.
he claims he set up the accident and used a air rifle and fired a actual bolt from a car at Patton's head so it would look like a car wreck. it failed. he also claims that while in isolation at the hospital the NKVD the forerunner of the KGB, killed him with a lethal injection.

reasons he gave were that Patton found out that Trueman was going to let the ussr have all of eastern eroupe and plans for displacing german citizens, and other ocupation plans.

a reply to: Max_TO

He would say " Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery Saved My Arse At The Battle Of The Bulge "

Givin the way politics are today is it even possible to have such a leader any more ?
Regardless of how much you liked the man, he was a leader.

Seems that today's leaders in the west set policy by public opnion based on polls and party focus groups rather then relying on their own character and determination .

Do "we" need another "leader" ? Is it even possible to have a strong leader in today's day and age ?

a reply to: alldaylong

if you mean by staying put and sacrificing more U.S. troops than british troops then yea he was a great help.

On the northern shoulder of the Bulge, Montgomery, temporarily in full command, reflected that Bradley, “such a decent fellow” but in over his head, had mistakenly permitted Patton “to go too far,” yet Monty had done little more than hold the line with American troops. The British counted about a thousand casualties, two hundred of them dead. Admitted American casualties were 80,987, including 10,276 killed and 23,218 missing, including prisoners of war and unrecovered dead. The German count was higher. Patton’s Christmas wish was that Eisenhower would not give in weakly to Monty’s “tidying up the lines” panaceas. “If ordered to fall back,” he wrote in his diary, “I think I will ask to be relieved.”
General George S. Patton and the Battle of the Bulge

monty wasn't anything but a arrogant self righteous blow hard, who always liked to praise himself, and that never even went into the front lines with his troops, except when there was no chance of him being shot, and thought it beneath him to meet with people of lesser rank to plan strategy.

hell even churchill in a speech to parliament said it was the U.S. who won the battle.

ETA: here is the quote,

“Care must be taken in telling our proud tale not to claim for the British Army an undue share what is undoubtedly the greatest American battle of the war, and will, I believe, be regarded as an ever famous American victory.”
Robert Rhodes James, ed., Winston S. Churchill: His Complete Speeches, 1897-1963, Vol. VII, 1943-1949 (New York: Chelsea House Publishers, 1974), 7095

he futher said,

I have seen it suggested that the terrific battle which has been proceeding since 16th December on the American front is an Anglo-American battle. In fact, however, the United States troops have done almost all the fighting and have suffered almost all the losses. They have suffered losses almost equal to those on both sides in the battle of Gettysburg. Only one British Army Corps has been engaged in this action. All the rest of the 30 or more divisions, which have been fighting continuously for the last month are United States troops. The Americans have engaged 30 or 40 men for every one we have engaged, and they have lost 60 to 80 men for every one of ours. That is the point I wish to make.

If Patton, was alive now, or a tank general in the US Army, Desert storm, we would have taken bagdad, and had Saddam on a stake.

What he would say about it, would be nothing, he was a man of action..

He also thought he was a reincarnated soldier, who fought the romans before, so who knows maybe Patton, will be back in the future..

Patton, was one if not the best United states general, we ever had, excluding Washington.

a reply to: Bicent76

And not to be forgot, he was the polar opposite of "political correctness", perhaps his greatest attribute as well as the possible source of his undoing

a reply to: Max_TO

eh i see him giving his speech from a un prison in regards to him nuking the Koreans with MacArthur and pulling off the coup against Truman if he had been alive during Korean war times(that "crash" killed him kind of suspiciously") that or what ever dictatorial throne hes perched on.as if mac Arthur had obtained greater support(through patton and the army) hey may very well have gotten away with nuking the chinese and north koreans

en.wikipedia.org...

www.pattonhq.com... but as in reality Patton wanted to retire it may not have gone down that way as it seemed if he had lived he would have retired from the army

If Patton were alive today he would say" What's this bit of wood in my face" then he would realise he was in his coffin 6 feet under. AS for his bravery, he was supremely known by his own men for his reckless strategies without thought for the men in his command using them to gain more glory for himself. It just so happens that the majority of his reckless actions were pulled of by his men so he's remembered as a hero rather than a reckless general.

originally posted by: Drunkenparrot
No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.

George S. Patton

I see that he meant the enemy but I couldn't help but notice that it could also apply to those serving under him.

+1 on the last line of the previous post.

a reply to: crayzeed

THIS from an ENGISH perspective of course.
I hate the hesitant commanders ,GIVE me Patton ,Schwartzkopf, ROBIN OLDS of the US Airforce.
THEY win fights.

I understand strategizing and some of it's elaborations but the ground troops only START out with the command plan THEN go FIX it.
PUSHING hard is our style of FOOTBALL talking so naturally it won't work for you.

Patton is the only general who was able to do rapid strategic attacks without being bogged down at roughly that 300 mile mark. Generally that happens because standard methods of resupply become stretched thin and lose their ability to maintain the advance. Patton wouldn't accept that something couldn't get done, he demanded that it get done and wouldn't accept excuses for failure. In Patton's march across Germany his supply lines kept up with his troops until Ike pulled his fuel supplies to let Monty steal some glory for being Britain.

From the link provided earlier

The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian have no regard for human life and is an all out son of *****, barbarian, and chronic drunk.

In the second place, Harrison and his ilk believe that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals.

We entered a synagogue which was packed with the greatest stinking bunch of humanity I have ever seen. Either these Displaced Persons never had any sense of decency or else they lost it all during their period of internment by the Germans…. My personal opinion is that no people could have sunk to the level of degradation these have reached in the short space of four years.

"Individually they were good soldiers, but I expressed my belief at the time, and have never found the necessity of changing it, that a colored soldier cannot think fast enough to fight in armor."

Sounds like a pretty nice guy. A real role model!

a reply to: babloyi

While it's true that patton was not the man history books have made him. That's because history books have distorted history. Patton said that we fought the wrong country in wwll. This sentiment is what got him murdered... Yes murdered.

Patton saw what the Zionist movement was doing to post war motivations. I could go into more detail, but I don't want to look crazy by those that understand history in their way.

Read pattons letters to his wife. Start there. Then ask yourself why he was being forced to evict Germans from their homes and give those homes to jews.

AAC.

a reply to: AnAbsoluteCreation

So in the end he was nothing but a loud mouthed yes man for TPTB.

If Patton were alive today he would scream and scratch at the top of his coffin.