Area 51 Scientist's Deathbed Show & Tell!

originally posted by: taoistguy
Hmmm...OK, I believe him. Just my gut reaction, As for him being allowed to now spill the beans, makes sense to me. A massive media campaign would be disastrous and cause chaos and panic -- it has to be done slowly and carefully.

Yes clearly people get scared. I am just completely boggled as to why since we are talking something that has been going on a long time but it is clearly so.

Anyone watch Stargate? when they Sam was in another dimension on earth there they had disclosed the whole alien thing to the public...lol the whole world was still under martial law three years later because people rioted and went crazy! I think they hit the nail :-0

originally posted by: OrionsGem

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: AllIsOne
a reply to: OrionsGem

I so wished this was credible, but no scientist would use his vocabulary. It didn't pass my smell test :-(

Clearly he is who it says he is...do you know any scientists? They are not that great at talking usually just thinking and working not with people. Consider also his age I see no reason to deride his vocabulary.

That and the fact the he is aware hes talking to the public, he may be dumbing things down for us laymen...

OG

That was my first thought when I saw this video also.

a reply to: Roxxo

I have hundreds of photos, thousands, many of which I developed myself, stored in those envelopes simply out of convenience.

Exactly, and a few years ago I dug out some very old negatives and had them redeveloped so again you could never use this as a time scale for the photos.

a reply to: The GUT

I don't totally count out all of his info, but I can't put him on the plus side of "For" without more detail than he provided.

I would be willing to bet the amount provided a taste, a small tidbit and no more is purposeful as it is so repetitive.

a reply to: OrionsGem

Another laughable attempt... want a cookie?

You really need to back off with the belittling comments to other members who are simply offering opinions......it's becoming very tiresome!

a reply to: Char-Lee

Char-Lee you seem to be one of the only critical thinkers that is present in this thread.

kudos to you!

OG

a reply to: OrionsGem
What's with your extreme defensiveness and immature "LOL... Next... Fail" derision towards anyone who doesn't support your belief in this video? You're responding emotionally and not intelligently.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Ectoplasm8

The picture was posted. It's a K-Mart alien.

Looking below at the comparison objectively, it's not made exactly as the K-Mart prop. That's not to say it couldn't have been modified and repainted to make it look more realistic. But the similarities are uncanny between the two. One thing that's hokey to me is the painted shadows to give the illusion of depth. Point being, this could easily be made by humans and without further evidence to corroborate this is an alien, it's human made.

originally posted by: OrionsGem
a reply to: Argyll

You've missed your calling as a middle school hallway monitor.

OG

Seriously?.......you really need to stop, what exactly is your problem?

You've got to the point where your trolling your own thread now!

Hoax. Just my opinion.

You have no proof to back its authenticity, just as much as the ones who say "neh" to the claim to dismiss its authenticity .

Hi, just giving my two cents here. First off, many thanks to Funbox for his diligence in trying to separate fact from fiction. Now onto my reason for posting. While I find the overall similarities between the two aliens striking, I noticed something odd in Boyd's pictures in this video:


Around the 00:40 mark a picture is shown of the alien's head lying on it's right side. At the 00:44 mark, another picture of the alien in the same pose from the same angle is shown. Yet if you compare the left eye of the alien in both pictures you notice that the eye in the first picture is WAY MORE OPENED than in the second one! How can this be a prop if the (skin around) the eye can move in this way? Also, could this alien still be alive because of this? Very anxious to hear your thoughts on this.

CerdoFuego

a reply to: The GUT

You are very perceptive did you notice his demeanor when he mentions the name of the alien home planet each time. I got the feeling maybe this is not the alien name for their planet or it was somehow comical to him or was it some other emotion I was seeing?

originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: funbox
a reply to: interupt42

well if they did it wasn't the prop from walmart.

why would you go to the trouble of altering the dimension of a torso for a hoax?
are their any more pictures of the toy alien ? what do the hands and feet look like ?

more pictures would lead to a far better comparison than just using the head and shoulder shots alone

surely they didn't do one shot for there product description

funbox

This is a link to another ATS thread on the KMart pro http:www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread409233/pg1#pid5275411

Turn that model around, let's see if it has veins liked he showed.

a reply to: Argyll

Not true. Stay on topic and stop trying to police the thread.

originally posted by: Cerdofuego
Hi, just giving my two cents here. First off, many thanks to Funbox for his diligence in trying to separate fact from fiction. Now onto my reason for posting. While I find the overall similarities between the two aliens striking, I noticed something odd in Boyd's pictures in this video:

Around the 00:40 mark a picture is shown of the alien's head lying on it's right side. At the 00:44 mark, another picture of the alien in the same pose from the same angle is shown. Yet if you compare the left eye of the alien in both pictures you notice that the eye in the first picture is WAY MORE OPENED than in the second one! How can this be a prop if the (skin around) the eye can move in this way? Also, could this alien still be alive because of this? Very anxious to hear your thoughts on this.

CerdoFuego

I have stated repeatedly that the alien in the video is moving his eyes. the eyes are in different positions in different photographs the skeptics cannot explain so they simply ignore and continue to shovel their hogwash.

I have yet to see an explanation for the moving eyes

Looking for a Boyd Bushman bio that doesn't come from a CT or UFO-related site. Even the Wiki bio has been flagged for factual accuracy and lack of citation.

a reply to: OrionsGem

You have a personal message waiting for you.

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
Anyone with artistic ability and is knowledgeable in sculpting and creating props could easily make this alien, including myself. So this by far isn't evidence in itself of an alien being. It's actually not very organic looking and leans more to being prop-like. It looks like an amateurish attempt at sculpting the stereotypical movie/TV alien. The dark recesses/indentations around the eyes and ears for example, is a classic way of painting and shading a prop or mask to give it depth. Skin is more or less the same hue and doesn't have unnatural looking dark areas where shadows would be. In Blue Shifts video above, the shadow in the ear actually looks airbrushed, which is how these are painted. That's how I see it. I think what we can draw from HomerinNC prop examples is that something like this can be and is made by humans. The props shown also fit exactly into this preformed idea of alien beings, as coincidentally the alien in the photos do. They're basically the same design.

So, not believing the alien photos prove anything and every other photo shown is blurry and not very detailed, then I would have to rely upon the story that this man tells. Without any other supporting evidence such as something physical, it's still only a story to me. The mans title doesn't preclude him from fabricating the story. He could have unknown motives. Unless you have some 'truthsaying' superpower, no one knows if he's lying or not. So then you're back to a belief, which this entire phenomena is surrounded by. It's another belief in a story amongst many others with no concrete evidence. If factual evidence arrives, then this phenomena will be taken seriously.

I am a sculptor in clay so i agree with everything you said, and still I won't dismiss anything at this point. It does though seem to have the look of mummified animals they also can look very unreal. Suppose their bodies dry or lose all moisture at death or these were preserved already somehow by the gov.

a reply to: OrionsGem

Sorry OG,
I've read over that, credits go to you. I agree that this is hard to deny from the "doll-perspective". Let's now pray no K-Mart version of the alien with moving eyelids shows up...

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Ectoplasm8

The picture was posted. It's a K-Mart alien.

I thought the alien at Kmart was followed by a question mark? If it is indeed for sale at KMart I could not find it so if anyone has a store link?