INRI ن

So I've been seeing this letter used as an avatar image by posters throughout the web and hadn't put two and two together in what it represented and astoundingly turns out it is relative to a genocide against Christians.

Apperently In Iraq, Muslims are painting the Arabic letter “N” on homes to identify Christians and are given an ultimatum: convert to Islam, pay a high tax, leave the area or die.



So it might be fulfilled which was spoken through the prophets: “He will be called a Nazarene. Matthew2

The very term "Christian" was originally pejorative and when first applied to the followers of Christ in Antioch was considered a badge of honor by those disciples. "Nasara" or "Nazarene" Jesus was also called this.

a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes. Acts



Indeed, the very term “Christian” was used as an insult towards the first century believers in Jesus. The symbol of the cross is symbolic as well of the glorious redemptive work that Christ accomplished on the cross.Lastly (and I think this is pretty cool too), is that there is apparently also a Hebrew/Aramaic letter called “nun.” The symbol is different, but it means “fish” in Aramaic. When Christians were later persecuted in Roman times, they used a fish as a symbol.



A Christian Genocide Symbolized by One Letter

Nun is thought to have come from a pictogram of a snake (the Hebrew word for snake, nachash begins with a Nun and snake in Aramaic is nun) or eel. Some have hypothesized a hieroglyph of a fish in water for its origin (in Arabic, nūn means large fish or whale). The Phoenician letter was named nūn "fish", but the glyph has been suggested to descend from a hypothetical Proto-Canaanite naḥš "snake", based on the name in Ethiopic, ultimately from a hieroglyph representing a snake,

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Latin for "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews" is "Iesvs Nazarenvs Rex Iudaeorvm" and the acronym for this title is INRI. Latin uses the letter "I" instead of the English "J", and "V" instead of "U" (i.e., Jesus Nazarenus Rex Judaeorum). The English translation is then "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews."

Masonically INRI is read: "Igne Natura Renovatur Integra". The regeneration of nature by the influence of the sun symbolizes the spiritual regeneration of mankind by the sacred fire (truth and love) of Masonry, a purely naturalistic institution.

The Jesuit Order, otherwise known as the Society of Jesus (S.J.), is the military enforcement arm of the Catholic Church. On the Jesuit flag is written the words, IUSTUM, NECAR, REGES, IMPIOS or, "It is just to exterminate or annihilate impious or heretical kings, governments, or rulers."http://www.thenazareneway.com/inri_the_inscription_explained.htm

pronounced Noon in Arabic. "From Mosul to Beirut, we are all Noon," Sadeq said just before a recent edition of LBCI's nightly news bulletin, The Daily Star newspaper reports. N appears to stand for the old Arabic word Nassarah - a term used in the Koran to describe Christians.www.bbc.com...

Let the sparks fly. It will all come out in the end.

originally posted by: Rustami
So it might be fulfilled which was spoken through the prophets: “He will be called a Nazarene. Matthew2

Just curious if you're suggesting it may fulfill Mathew 2 because "N" is the first letter in Nazarene? If that's the case, don't you think that's a huge stretch?

As for the rest, I'm just going to add it on top of my pile of reasons why religion is a cancer.

a reply to: skunkape23

Could you clarify?
Do you think it's false information, propaganda or what?

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

It's a short symbolic form

When the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, also known as ISIS, captured Mosul, one of Iraq's largest cities, militants began singling Christians out. The symbol that marked their homes and businesses -- the Arabic letter "n," which is pronounced "noon" and stands for Nazarene or Nasrani, the Arabic word for Christian -- reportedly was a signal: convert, pay a tax or be killed. Many Christians fled.www.cbsnews.com...

a reply to: Rustami

You're still taking that verse way out of context.
Not that it matters to the rest of the content of the OP.
Because these murders are atrocious. But understandable.

So Allah only has issues now with those who follow the Lord Jesus Christ.

Pretty much exposes the entire agenda right there.

Do Muslims not claim to worship the same God as Christians?

I think it's pretty obvious here that “Allah” isn't really who he claims to be.

What's really creepy about all this is that the same exact thing happened with 'Hinduism'.

Hinduism did not exist before 1830 and is in reality a manufactured Illuminati cult just like Islam and all the others.

Coincidence? Fat chance...

“Allah is found . . . in Arabic inscriptions prior to Islam” (Encyclopedia Britannica, I:643).

“The Arabs, before the time of Mohammed, accepted and worshipped, after a fashion, a supreme god called Allah” (Encyclopedia off Islam, I:302, Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1913, Houtsma).

“Allah was known to the pre-Islamic . . . Arabs; he was one of the Meccan deities” (Encyclopedia off Islam, I:406, ed. Gibb).

“The name Allah goes back before Muhammad” (Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, I:41, Anthony Mercatante, New York, The Facts on File, 1983).

“The origin of this (Allah) goes back to pre-Muslim times. Allah is not a common name meaning “God” (or a “god”, and the Muslim must use another word or form if he wishes to indicate any other than his own peculiar deity” (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, I:326, Hastings).

The word to ascend used in Isaiah 14 when Lucifer says “I will ascend into heaven…I will be like the most High”, is in Hebrew “Allah” Strong’s #5927. Allah translates “to ascend.” Allah is the “fallen one” who wants to ascend into heaven. Allah is another title for Satan, the fallen one. The correct pronunciation of “elohim” is “allah-hay’m.” Allah means gods, powers, or angels. In this sense, fallen angels.

Makes sense why the Muslims who worship him behead infidels instead of loving their enemies as Christ taught. Islam is to Persian mythology (astrology) what Catholicism is to Babylonian paganism. That’s why the Islamic symbol is the star and the moon. Both occult idols. One for the “goddess” Diana and the other for the “god” Lucifer, the male and female occult deities. The Muslims worship an idol in the shape of a female vagina (fertility symbol) in the form of the Kabba Stone in Mecca. Islam is idolatrous and pagan.

Interestingly, not many Muslims want to accept that Allah was already being worshiped at the Ka’ba in Mecca by Arab pagans before Muhammad came. Some Muslims become angry when they are confronted with this fact. But history is not on their side. Pre-Islamic literature has proved this.” (Who Is This Allah?, G. J. O. Moshay, 1994, p 138)

“But history establishes beyond the shadow of doubt that even the pagan Arabs, before Muhammad’s time, knew their chief god by the name of Allah and even, in a sense, proclaimed his unity…Among the pagan Arabs this term denoted the chief god of their pantheon, the Kaaba, with its three hundred and sixty idols.”

In fact, he did not at first intend to establish a new religion, but rather to reform the belief in Allah which already existed, and to show what this belief truly signified and rightfully demanded.

There is absolutely no question that Allah was worshipped by the pagan Arabs as one of many polytheistic gods. Allah was worshipped in the Kabah at Mecca before Muhammad was born. Muhammad merely proclaimed a god the Meccans were already familiar with. The pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshiped.

The pagan origin of the word "Allah"

The Quran Confesses Allah Was a Pagan God before Islam

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

they are referring to Jesus of Nazareth followers. how is that out of context?

The name used by Tertullus survives into Rabbinic and modern Hebrew as notzrim (נוצרים) a standard Hebrew term for "Christian", and also into the Quran and modern Arabic as nasara (plural of nasrani "Christians"). The Arabic word nasara (نَصارى) comes from the Arabic root "n s r" (ن ص ر).en.wikipedia.org...(sect)

or are you saying that I'm saying that they are Him, in using that verse to show where the word comes from?

a reply to: Murgatroid

You should take some time to study the claims made by your own religion. When the Bible said there is nothing new under the sun it wasn't kidding. You'll find there isn't much that is unique to Christianity that didn't come before it.

originally posted by: Murgatroid
Hinduism did not exist before 1830 and is in reality a manufactured Illuminati cult just like Islam and all the others.

How very rational. Mind telling me why this doesn't apply to Christianity?

a reply to: Rustami

Isn't that verse referring to Jesus? Because that's what the context of the entire chapter seem to imply.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

yes and??
Isn't the entire context of this thread related to the "Nazarene" of the New Testament?

a reply to: Rustami

Sorry for my confusion but do you mind just clarifying why you think Muslims using a symbol or w.e that means Nazarene to identify Christians and give them an ultimatum fulfills a prophecy alluded to in Mathew?

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

where does the word Nazarene come from and why are they using it?
Maybe these will help answer what you're digging for-

John 15 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

He that hateth me hateth my Father also.

That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

You should take some time to study the claims made by your own religion. When the Bible said there is nothing new under the sun it wasn't kidding. You'll find there isn't much that is unique to Christianity that didn't come before it.

Actually I think you're misunderstanding the context and depth as well as what types and shadows means

On the road at noon, O King, I saw a light from heaven that was brighter than the sun. Acts26

For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. Hebrews7

brighter?-

Matthew 24 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken

Galatians 3
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female

Ephesians 1 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him

He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire. Psalm46

As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery 1Corinthians15

a reply to: Rustami

Ok so basically you believe it fulfills some prophecy because the verse calls Jesus a Nazarene and now these Muslims are calling Christians Nazarene. The verse in Mathew wasn't a prophecy by the way. You cut out the first part of the verse..

And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, “He shall be called a Nazarene.”

The verse is claiming that Jesus fulfilled an earlier prophecy about the expected messiah.

Nothing in the verse or chapter have anything to do with murdering Christians.

a reply to: Rustami

So I say that Christianity isn't unique and suggest doing some comparative religions research and you reply with something that makes absolutely no sense, followed by scripture.

Actually I think you're misunderstanding the context and depth as well as what types and shadows means

originally posted by: WakeUpBeer
Mind telling me why this doesn't apply to Christianity?

I suppose that the fact that Christianity isn't a manufactured Illuminati cult might have something to do with it.

An ex-Christian wouldn't need to ask that question BTW...

Any one who is or was a Christian would already know the answer.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer

the first part you kinda got right but the next not so much

I'll try one last time...Christian

And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. Acts11

1 Peter 4 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

Is it relative in any way to this next article?

Most people in the West would be surprised by the answer to the question: who are the most persecuted people in the world? According to the International Society for Human Rights, a secular group with members in 38 states worldwide, 80 per cent of all acts of religious discrimination in the world today are directed at Christians.

The Centre for the Study of Global Christianity in the United States estimates that 100,000 Christians now die every year, targeted because of their faith – that is 11 every hour. www.independent.co.uk...

a reply to: Rustami

This:

originally posted by: Rustami
Apperently In Iraq, Muslims are painting the Arabic letter “N” on homes to identify Christians and are given an ultimatum: convert to Islam, pay a high tax, leave the area or die.

Followed by this:

So it might be fulfilled which was spoken through the prophets: “He will be called a Nazarene. Matthew2

Is why I thought you believed Mathew may have fulfilled a Christian persecution prophecy. Now that I know that's not what you meant to convey, awesome. You didn't even mention 1st Peter in your OP. Hence all my confusion. Thank you for finally being a little more clear. Just save yourself the trouble of trying to explain further, if I'm still not getting it. I'm sure we will have differing opinions as to why that is.

a reply to: Rustami

Well done!

See... Why couldn't you just use your own words in the first place?

Now make all your replies this way and you can have real discussions with other members

No one reads replies with just bible quotes... but everyone wants to see what you have to add to the topic

S&F