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originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: AlephBet
Furthering the division is indeed the goal and this is what has produced this world as it stands.
this is the only sentence you have ever posted that i agree with. but the WHO is another matter...which we dont agree on at all.
originally posted by: AlephBet
originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: AlephBet
Furthering the division is indeed the goal and this is what has produced this world as it stands.
this is the only sentence you have ever posted that i agree with. but the WHO is another matter...which we dont agree on at all.
Like others, you have not see the truth of Job 19. Realize it first in yourself. You won't be so quick to judge another if you can see it. Forgive your enemies. It's the point of knowing why the error is also in you.
They look out for their own over the good of the many.
Again, anyone reading this thread will realize this truth.
If you have another version of this story of Christ, feel free to reveal it here. I am sure you have a view to share if you would be so bold. "Shhhh!" is the wrong answer. Being caught between a ROCK and a hard place may be more of a truism than you care to admit.
in other words i dont get a coherent answer. thanks for trying anyway...if thats what you call trying. im out.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: AlephBet
You did not answer my question. Your preposterous Original Post revolves around Masons believing in Lucifer. Why do you ascribe your unshakeable belief in Lucifer to others?
originally posted by: sheepslayer247
a reply to: AlephBet
I'm reading your posts trying to get an understanding of what you're overall point is, and I can't really understand a damn thing you're saying.
Could you break this down in to simple english so that the simple minds in the room can grasp your point.
Yes but their leaders having a taste of power will make a play for userping the true heir to the throne. power corrupts and in their view they would be seen as weak if they did not at least try to kill the king. This says nothing for the ones under their control or their minions that are fed shat and kept in the dark under the false guise of peace and chairity because we all have hearts in some form.
originally posted by: Yeahkeepwatchingme
I think the Masons and the Jesuits are public tools/fall guys. They only enjoy their perks and prestige but in the end they're just following orders, carrying out an agenda and all the "power" they have is only as powerful as what they're allowed to have.
The true PTB aren't public. They don't belong to these organizations made up of local politicians and dopes with bumper stickers. They use these organizations to distract the public.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: AlephBet
I am implying no such thing. I believe that both Lucifer and the Divinity of Christ are fictions.
No matter how much spamming you do you will not convince me to follow your fictitious mythology.
It does not make much sense for you to be in a debate that is not about if religion is a myth or not. You do not belive. We get it. Some part of you enjoys jacking with believers that do not jack with you.
originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: AlephBet
I am implying no such thing. I believe that both Lucifer and the Divinity of Christ are fictions.
No matter how much spamming you do you will not convince me to follow your fictitious mythology.
That is an assumption that may be likely to some but has no roots in being proven correct. We can say that it seems like no one knows but until the end you have to accept the possibility that perhaps some know things and have been privy to things others have not. Sure if we were betting or something like that your stance may have better odds but history shows what the underdog can do. I say that even if you are not buying what is being put down it would be prudent to try and ignore some of the disagreements and find the source. It is very easy to write someone off as being wrong or onesided but the one who searches will find. The question is what are we looking for? A step to elevate ones self or a path that is open for all?
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: AlephBet
Second, you, nor anyone else here knows anything at all about Heaven or hell. None of us have been there. So you don't know what folks will be doing there, or even who will be there. We can speculate all day long. but that's it.
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originally posted by: network dude
since you aren't a member, you should either ask, or shut up. Just my opinion.
In the entire history of man, no one has ever been brainwashed and realized, or believed, that he had been brainwashed. Those who have been brainwashed will usually passionately defend their manipulators, claiming they have simply been "shown the light" . . . or have been transformed in miraculous ways.
Brainwashing Techniques Being Used On The Public
Today, they have nowhere to hide. The symbols are quickly being deciphered and the urine stain left behind can quickly connect the dots back through history.
Ultimately, the message of this thread is to judge not lest ye be judged.
originally posted by: AlephBet
My beliefs are non-dogmatic and are not based on any organized religion so your incessant religious bleating is pointless.
Your personal opinion as to what the chief aim of philosophical contemplation is not one I share either.
My foundation is the Golden Rule and not to jam my beliefs down other people's throats.