Alarm After Vomitting Passenger Dies On Flight From Nigeria To JFK

a reply to: parad0x122

Only because they let it get out of hand lol.

The nurse on the cruise does not have Ebola. They won't have disinfect the ship so to speak. She worked in a lab and may have handled a sample. (Doesn't she know what she last worked on at the lab???)
The cruise ship company is overreacting I feel. And the ports that won't allow the ship to dock. Yes refunds will be demanded on the ship too.
It's unfortunate she felt she should take this cruise at this time even if the chances she is infected are low. Anyone who was associated with this event should stay put for the time being. The nurses the people who worked in removal of his bedding the janitors who mopped the floor in his room. Everyone. The lab technician really should have canceled her trip after her lab was asked to analyze the virus. This is the third person to make a stupid move. Duncan making the first one and the nurse who went to Ohio making the second. I'm hoping that there won't be any consequences of the second two mistakes and that these two health care workers are the end to this in this country.

a reply to: Anyafaj

a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

I agree 100%! The actions (not) taken by the FAA/JFK, IMO, are negligent at best. I'm afraid to fly anywhere until all of this is under control.

If the remainder of any participants in this event stay put from here on out it should get better very soon. That is unless there are secondary cases to the nurse who went to Ohio. If it got out from her it could get bad. I don't think we'll loose control of it if people act smart and don't get inclined to travel. Anyone who was put at even a small potential risk should be on alert right now. Not going out and monitoring their temperature and general feelings of health. We'll know one way or the other within the next few weeks which way it's going to go. reply to: Anyafaj

Double post oops.

originally posted by: frugal
It probably was Ebola. In the past forty eight years I have never heard of someone vomiting and dying on a plane. Now suddenly this is happening daily. We don't need anything from Africa, at least not for three to five years.

Just Becuase you haven't heard about it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. People die on flights occasionally. In fact I believe a pilot died not long ago and the plane was landed by the copilot.

Their reputation took a good knock because they've behaved like unintelligent dolts. They need to reassure the American people. If it takes proceeding with investigations, so be it. They're going to be in such a hurry to dismiss one that they're going to screw the whole country.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657


a reply to: kimmie7

They have a lot on their plate right now. The faster they can dismiss these cases the better. I wouldn't say they were snobbish or dismissive because they're cold hearted but because they need to keep moving forward. Their reputation has taken a good knock these past few weeks. They need to stay on the ball. I guess it doesn't leave much time for reassurances to make the public feel better. Won't we all feel better when this is behind us? And behind Africa too? Then we can get to work on a vaccine for the region it originates so this doesn't happen again.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
(Doesn't she know what she last worked on at the lab???)

Likley not.

Most labs like that operate in shifts.

Chances are she just got a vial of blood/other fluid, set up a cell culture or test which would have been one of many hundreds and left it for the next shift to continue with.

originally posted by: Realtruth
a reply to: Anyafaj

Nah!

Keep the flights coming in from Africa everything is ok.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
The nurse on the cruise does not have Ebola. They won't have disinfect the ship so to speak. She worked in a lab and may have handled a sample. (Doesn't she know what she last worked on at the lab???)
The cruise ship company is overreacting I feel. And the ports that won't allow the ship to dock. Yes refunds will be demanded on the ship too.
It's unfortunate she felt she should take this cruise at this time even if the chances she is infected are low. Anyone who was associated with this event should stay put for the time being. The nurses the people who worked in removal of his bedding the janitors who mopped the floor in his room. Everyone. The lab technician really should have canceled her trip after her lab was asked to analyze the virus. This is the third person to make a stupid move. Duncan making the first one and the nurse who went to Ohio making the second. I'm hoping that there won't be any consequences of the second two mistakes and that these two health care workers are the end to this in this country.

a reply to: Anyafaj

Here's a sane thought. How much of this is Texas putting their foot down, after Nurse #2 flew and saying "WHERE THE HELL ARE ALL THE NURSES???" freaking out thinking all are infected when really it's only a few. Call all 70+ nurses to locate them, then called the cruise ship to notify them they have a nurse onboard. Cruise ship freaks out, EBOLA!! AHHH PANIC ON THE OCEAN!!! Tells Belize, "We need to dock to get this infected nurse off our ship!" When really she's fine, nobody panic. Now of course everyone's panicking. The news is reporting there's an infected nurse on board, blah, blah, blah. Now I could be completely wrong! But just a thought to think about. Something I've been mulling over.

originally posted by: parad0x122
a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

I agree 100%! The actions (not) taken by the FAA/JFK, IMO, are negligent at best. I'm afraid to fly anywhere until all of this is under control.

My ex used to work mechanics on a small Canadian Indian Airline here in the states until the boss began embezzling from the company and it went under. The crap he saw on those planes mechanic wise. A fat lot of them really are held together by spit, glue, a wing, and a prayer! You will never catch me on those death traps!

originally posted by: kosmicjack
The account reads like some surreal movie plot. Snakes on a plane got more play than this nightmare.

Why oh why did I make the decision to re-watch Stephen King's "The Stand" again a week ago....

a reply to: Anyafaj

I remember the good ole days, when a passenger could
board a jet and literally vomit his guts out profusely.
Make up for all those times, one was able to fight back
puking, while carressing the porcelin bus. After a losing
bout with gin or tequila.

Those were the good ole days.

Bag please?

a reply to: kimmie7
I'm not happy about this scare either. I'm just saying they don't have the time or resources to test everyone who pukes and dies. They obviously could tell that this was not end stage Ebola with an external exam. I have no experience with the disease as most of us but from what I've read the end is very bad and most folks are in a coma. Remember it's the destruction of internal organs from blood vessel breakdown that causes ultimate death. This gentleman obviously walked onto the plane which would not have been possible if he was already at deaths door. I'm not making light of your fears. They are completely understandable given the poor handling of the situation in Dallas. Just saying when they can legitimately say no Ebola here they need to move along and eliminate the next scare. Use our resources to handle the situation asap and on to the next.
Let's face it there have been scares already and that will undoubtedly continue until the situation is in hand in west Africa. The quicker we can eliminate the cases as being Ebola the better.
I'll offer you this. We will all be here to worry about paying the bills from Christmas come January LOL.

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
(Doesn't she know what she last worked on at the lab???)

Likley not.

Most labs like that operate in shifts.

Chances are she just got a vial of blood/other fluid, set up a cell culture or test which would have been one of many hundreds and left it for the next shift to continue with.

She wouldn't have any clue what she was testing for or looking for? So she could say nope no strep throat here or Mr. Smith you're pregnant? I refuse to pay a single lab fee from now on then. Gives new meaning to blind studies huh?

The woman on the cruise ship was not a nurse from the hospital. She was a lab technician. Still she should have self limited her movements but apparently lab workers are not informed what they're handling. WTF. I'm not buying that. She had to have been told if for no other reason than to prevent infection. The hospital is trying now to recover from a very poor handling of the whole event from day one onward. Everyone of those seventy or so healthcare workers should have been told to stay put once Ebola was diagnosed in Duncan. We are nearing the end of the incubation period for anyone who was in contact with Duncan. It's already over 21 days since he was admitted. That's a releaf or anyone who was on his flight or in contact with his luggage and stuff. They are all clear now good thing.
Now we wait to see if nurse 2 infected anyone on her wedding adventure to Ohio. A bigger threat actually Since she had symptoms when she decided to board a plane. So not smart...a reply to: Anyafaj

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14

originally posted by: kosmicjack
The account reads like some surreal movie plot. Snakes on a plane got more play than this nightmare.

Why oh why did I make the decision to re-watch Stephen King's "The Stand" again a week ago....

Because it was a new release on Netflix? Along with a nice little ditty about a flesh eating virus titled Patient Zero... life imitating art???

Air sickness or sea sickness on cruise ships. Could tie up some resources.a reply to: randyvs

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

It's probably set up like other tests. When I had my knees MRId there was a tech watching in real time as it was going, but since a doctor hadn't read it he couldn't say anything about how it looked.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
(Doesn't she know what she last worked on at the lab???)

Likley not.

Most labs like that operate in shifts.

Chances are she just got a vial of blood/other fluid, set up a cell culture or test which would have been one of many hundreds and left it for the next shift to continue with.

She wouldn't have any clue what she was testing for or looking for? So she could say nope no strep throat here or Mr. Smith you're pregnant? I refuse to pay a single lab fee from now on then. Gives new meaning to blind studies huh?

Depends on the protocol. She would have had SOME idea from the form that came with the vial as it would have had a list of tests needed done but likely only a rough idea as likely the sample was tested for a good number of things. She may very well have just set the tests up and left not knowing the result.

Still even with Ebola its very unlikely she caught it as handling of samples is done very carefully.