Baltimore teacher gets into physical fight with student, threatens to kill her.

a reply to: UDrinktheKoolAid

i always thought the movie 187 was a good one.

" every one wave their phalanges"
Trevor Garfield

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Now Im not some who who condones violence in any form. There's always an alternative to it... Most times. But with saying that. It seems the longer schools have gone with out "physical punishment" students not all but some get worse and worse.

I can't blame that teacher for losing it. Who knows how many times she was abused by students
And what they did to her during working at that school. Fair enough fighting isn't the way to go but that student probably had some badddddd karma.

originally posted by: Dimithae
a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

I can only say that I know how my mother would have dealt with it had it been one of us kids. First,she would have beaten us within an inch of our lives for disrespecting the teacher like that. If we had an issue with her we should have calmly stated our case and come home to tell our mother what happened and let her decide what to do about it. Secondly,she would have drug us up to the school the next day to YES apologize to the teacher swearing to never do something that stupid and disrespectful again. And that would be the worst part of all. Thing is,it would never have got that far to begin with because we had been taught from the get go,that agree or disagree with an adult that had power over us,we were to treat them with respect no matter what,even if we didn't agree with what they were saying. We left any fighting up to our mother to do when she came up to the school.

This is a big problem you see in society now with the teenagers. They haven't been taught to respect those in authority from the time they are little,so they think nothing of challenging authority when they are teens and feeling their oats so to speak. Then they get shot by a cop for thinking they are a bad ass or end up in jail. Because the law is used to dealing with bad ass people and has a 'special' place for them. Its called prison. Time for parents to wake up and realize they need to raise their kids to act like little adults when dealing with adults so they don't do stupid things.

That's exactly the way I was raised.

I never got into trouble at school because I always knew that the punishment would be way worse once I got home.

Different times my friend. Different times.

originally posted by: Danny85
a reply to: LittleByLittle

I work in a secondary school (High School) in the UK, and there is a rule here that goes unspoken, basically no matter how bad the kid is they DO NOT GET THROWN OUT! Its really the unwritten rule. I've seen some horrible kids, just a few weeks ago a fourteen year old girl was in a classroom and started to chat Pedophile at a teacher, who'd been working there for about twenty years, she tried to get the class to copy her and chant with her, and the TEACHER was suspended while they investigate the claim even though the entire class said that she was doing to course a problem after he said that she failed a test.

apparently she shouted something like 'You only didn't mark it right because I said no to you, Pedophile' and started shouting it.

Schools have been like this for a while, they wont throw the kids out no matter what they do. Oh the teacher was found innocent recently but then suddenly he came out that he was going to retire five years early - There is a rumour going around that the school governors gave him the option of either retiring or being fired but no one knows for sure.

Of course they don't want to kick kids out. They make money off of them.

Kids in public schools are cash calves.

Schools will not get funding without the attendance of the students.

That story really made me sick...and sad...and angry.

The world is going mad.


I'm going to go curl up in my blankets and try to shut this crazy ass world out for a while.

a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

wait...the student attacked the teacher by throwing a book? Sounds to me like she just learned a lesson about consequnces. I'd suspend the student, give the teacher 3 days leave during which she would recieve a psych eval (for indemnification purposes(, and send her back to work.

I am as harsh a critic of public schools as you will find. But students assaulting teachers? Unleash the hounds!

Students like this should be dropped off five days' worth of walking out into the wild - let the wolves raise them.

If they survive the walk back to civilization, ask them if they want to attend school now, or try another five days out in the wild...

Rinse, repeat.

That's the way we treat wild animals that wander into cities, right?

Why should a few ruin it for those who want to be there and want to learn? No teacher should have to attend an armed camp where their safety is at risk as a job description, and they shouldn't need to have black belts and concealed carry, either.

If you attack someone dont start whinging if you get attacked back!

a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

The student didn`t show blatant disrespect, the student committed assault and battery.The schools need to start treating these thugs like the criminals that they are.the student should have been hauled out of the school in handcuffs and never allowed to return.

a reply to: Soobaz

Those of you who are teachers with class and patience certainly get my respect.

I am happy that I am not a teacher and you cannot pay me any amount to deal with these insane students.

Nice to hear people like yourselves understand the stressful situations teachers face everyday in the classroom. It's no longer like the days gone by where students had consequences for disrespecting their teachers or disrupting the learning environment.

Today's teacher's hands are tied. Student's know there are no consequences, so the classroom is like a battle ground fighting to get the student's attention away from their cell phones, or simply trying to teach over the disruption of a handful of students.

Students throw the F-bomb around in every sentence they utter. You can't walk down the hallways without getting disgusted hearing all the crude and vulgar conversations while they're in the presence of teachers and administrators. I'm sure there isn't a teacher around who has been teaching a few years, who hasn't had an occasional F-bomb yelled at them by a student who was being reprimanded. I bring my stress and aggravation home everyday. I don't even like to think of how it's affecting me physically. I cherish the days when I worked in industry, lol.

Back in my day, if my parents even heard of me swearing at a teacher or disrespecting them, I would be grounded for weeks! Not to mention being smacked! Now we face parents who think teachers are picking on their kid for no reason. Like we love to spend our day reprimanding and picking on a kid because we have nothing better to do. It's crazy how a lot of parents believe their kids excuses for not doing their assignments, or why they hate their teacher. Really the last thing a teacher wants to do is see their student's fail.

Students no longer have any fear of repercussions, which really is affecting the learning environment on a daily basis. They're street smart and they know how to work the system. The laws in this country have given kids more rights than their own parents. People would be absolutely amazed at the type of things students have been caught doing in school.

Today officials are more worried about making it easy for these kids to pass just to improve graduation numbers. When high school kids can't do basic 4th grade math, lack any sense of responsibility, are unmotivated and want to be spoon fed information without reading their text books, take notes and study, than this country will find itself with a huge population of incompetent unskilled workers. Colleges across the country are also lowering their standards. I have to laugh thinking back when I entered college on probation my freshman year because I graduated with a 3.0 from my high school.

It's a sad state of affairs when state officials blame the teachers for failure rates, when it really comes down to an entire generation of children who just don't care about their education. Ask any employer out there about the work ethics of this young generation and I guarantee they'll complain about the same things I'm ranting about, lol. When it comes to learning, it really comes down to the old saying, " you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."

a reply to: WeRpeons

Psh....in my house there are consequences. I got them all on email, and we talk ad nauseum. This year...not so much. He finally got serious about grades and has started to exude some of the leadership skills I have taught him his entire life.

But up until this point, i have micromanaged the entire process to keep his bumpy little head on the right path.

a reply to: WeRpeons

I distinctly remember when I was in high school (over a decade ago at this point) some of the kids in my class trash talked and harassed a teacher so much that she started crying. I don't know what happened after that day but while they were still jerks, they never did anything quite like that again. They thought it was really funny though. I think that's around the time things started to really change.

Considering they were still mouthy most of the time, I doubt they got into much trouble from their parents. Mine would not have been so lenient.

a reply to: MagesticEsoteric

The teacher reacted poorly, but the key word is REACTED. The kids actions were insane and unacceptable. In a way I feel sorry for the teacher. Apparently there is a history with this girl. If it had not happened she would graduate but the mockery she created during her time there lasts for years. This fight will not be forgotten and kids there wont be so quick to assault their teachers thanks to her sacrifice.

If it was my daughter, she would be apologizing and the teacher would be personally requested by me to stay on and maybe even get a nice dinner on me. If it was not my kid and just her school, I would still offer the dinner.

Kids only get worse if nothing they take seriously is done. Maybe not a fight, but the teacher had every right to defend herself. If the girl kept coming, then "street" justice it is. If not, court....

a reply to: Soobaz

My class had a teacher break down once. She was really nice. A little group of sociopaths just didnt let up. Nothing could be done since they knew what they could get away with. She left the country and we simply lost a great teacher. The scum bags are either dead or in jail.

I wish she had just fought back. It was depressing to watch. No matter who stood up for her, they didnt change focus. It was sick. It was a joke.