Ebola patient was on flight from Cleveland to Dallas!

Brantly said he hasn't been asked to donate blood plasma to Amber Vinson, the second health worker who tested positive for the virus after treating Duncan. [Source]

I'm betting Vinson is probably type O.

the more i think about this the more i am getting fired up....

i honestly dont think any resources should be devoted to this lady. nothing

once they get her behind the glass, leave her there...

look at all the disruption she caused.
why should other doctors and nurses risk exposing themselves to help her?
she wasnt worried about helping herself. at least not for the first several days...


i just keep thinking now there are a handful of healthcare workers that are at home, NOT caring for others.....
perfect example of how even a few cases of this will disrupt our healthcare system.


they are still trying to put together everywhere this lady went.

i know my wife and i were at the cheesecake factory in westlake on saturday.....not unheard of for people from cleveland to head to that area to shop and eat.
i sure hope i dont see that place on the map...

i will totally freak out.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

Brantly said he hasn't been asked to donate blood plasma to Amber Vinson, the second health worker who tested positive for the virus after treating Duncan. [Source]

I'm betting Vinson is probably type O.

would be awesome if they asked him and he gave them an extra big ass [n]hell no

i wonder if people still think that bringing her up on charges is excessive

a reply to: CardiffGiant

It is obvious she lie, she lie about her temperature, the people she called for permission to travel and so on, she lie, liyer pants on fire

If I am a nurse and have been around ebola patient zero, when he was puking and leaving diarrhea all over and didn't have a gear to wear because I didn't know he had ebola, I am intelligent enough that I will probably, surely will come down with ebola too, the last thing I would do as a responsible human being is run home with a fever and hug my loves one.

Unless I didn't like them that much, still taking the risk of infecting anybody along the way should be call all kind of not very nice names.

a reply to: CardiffGiant

I'm reserving judgement until I get a better idea of the timeline and what they were told by the CDC. So far, I haven't seen her timeline intertwined with Duncan's and Pham's in a way that I can cope with or study. Have you seen a timeline like around this place?

a reply to: ~Lucidity

That is the big problem, the universal blood is now the worst blood type to have with ebola because the survivor type happen to be A.

I told my husband jokingly that he will survive ebola because he is type A but me and my children will no make it with type O

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: CardiffGiant

I'm reserving judgement until I get a better idea of the timeline and what they were told by the CDC. So far, I haven't seen her timeline intertwined with Duncan's and Pham's in a way that I can cope with or study. Have you seen a timeline like around this place?

timelines all over the place...its in the thread somewhere...

she was taking care of duncan the day before he died...that was the 7th.

she was exposed no later than the 7th then...

she flew to cleveland on the 10th.

so, she was exposed.....also, she was right in the 2-21 day window

she wandered all around cleveland from the 10th-13th

flew back to dallas on 13th

put in isolation on the 14th with an ebola confirmation

what more do you need/want?

a reply to: CardiffGiant

Way more than that.

I want an all-inclusive, comprehensive timeline. With the day Pham was diagnosed. With the last day both were with Duncan, the first day each was with Duncan. With what they told the healthcare workers about precaution after Duncan died. With what they were told about isolation and when in relation to Pham. With when she flew in relation to all that. And so on. I'll get around to it, but so far, in my head at least, there are many questions. Too many to pass judgement on this woman.

Here's a start (from yesterday) but it needs more information about Pham and the CDC and what they told these people.

Oct. 8

Thomas Eric Duncan died of Ebola.

Vinson flies from Dallas/Forth Worth International Airport to Cleveland Hopkins Airport to visit family in Akron, according to the Ohio Department of Health. Frontier Airlines, however, reported that Vinson flew from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport to Cleveland Hopkins on Frontier Airlines flight 1142 on Oct. 10, according to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. That flight left Dallas at 4:26 p.m. Eastern time and arrived in Cleveland at 6:30 p.m. Eastern time, according to flightaware.com. It is unclear why the two agencies reported different dates.

Between Oct. 8-13

Vinson visits family in Summit County. She is related to three Kent State University employees, the school confirmed.

"It's important to note that the patient was not on the Kent State campus," said Kent State President Beverly Warren in the statement. "She stayed with her family at their home in Summit County and did not step foot on our campus. We want to assure our university community that we are taking this information seriously, taking steps to communicate what we know."

Oct. 13

Vinson flies from Cleveland Hopkins to Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport on Frontier Airlines flight 1143 on a plane with 132 passengers, according to the CDC. While the flight crew reported that she showed no visible symptoms, she had a temperature of 99.5 Fahrenheit, an official from the CDC said. The flight left Cleveland at 6:31 p.m. Eastern time, according to flightaware.com. The plane landed in Dallas at 9:16 p.m. Eastern time, according to the CDC.

Oct. 14

Vinson reported to the hospital that morning with a low-grade fever and was isolated within 90 minutes, according to the CDC.

"Because of the proximity in time between the evening flight and first report of illness the following morning, CDC is reaching out to passengers who flew on Frontier Airlines flight 1143 Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth Oct. 13," a CDC statement read.

Oct. 15

The CDC informed Frontier Airlines at 3 a.m. Eastern time that a woman traveling on flight 1143 Cleveland to Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport tested positive for the Ebola virus.

The Ohio Department of Health was the first public agency to make public at 10 a.m. that Vinson had visited Northeast Ohio and subsequently tested positive for Ebola.

The City of Cleveland reported being notified of Vinson's visit to Northeast Ohio at 6 a.m. Mayor Frank Jackson held his first news conference eight hours later at 2 p.m.

Jackson said he did not hold an immediate press conference because the facts of Vinson's travels were not entirely established with the CDC.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

i have plenty of info to pass judgement.

all i need to know is she knew she was exposed and she flew across country.

that^^^^is a fact.

screw her

originally posted by: CardiffGiant
a reply to: ~Lucidity

i have plenty of info to pass judgement.

all i need to know is she knew she was exposed and she flew across country.

that^^^^is a fact.

screw her

Okay.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

I think the NYT has a fairly good timeline for the whole Ebola contagion, and a bit on Nurse Nina's timeline. Maybe it can
be a jumping off point for more research?
www.nytimes.com...

I found a timeline for Nurse Amber:
www.wcpo.com...

One more. You have to scroll down for a timeline, then scroll left or right.
keranews.org...

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Agreed - to all you say you would like to see. It important information for being fully informed.

a reply to: drwill

Thanks very much. I will do this research when I find the will (no pun intended lol). The tricky thing will be finding out what they were told about staying put or not, being in isolation or not. What her fever actually was. Things like that. That will be a lot of hearsay.

4 of the 8 US survivors have blood type A+.

Dr. Kent Brantly A+
Dr Nick Sacra A+
Nurse Nina Pham A+
Ashoka Mukpo A+

Thomas Eric Duncan has B+.
Dr. Nancy Writebol ? (Not A+/-, Not B+/-) Probably O?

I do not have a solid understand of this, but I think that means Dr. Writebol must be O meaning she has both A and B antibodies in her plasma and neither antigen on her red blood cells.

O is universal Red Cell Donor, AB is universal Plasma Donor, Rh- can donate to Rh+



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a reply to: Oleman

Nancy Writebol offered but was not a match for Duncan. So she's probably not B+. There was also not a match for her so she's probably not Brantly's type...A+.

So I guess that leaves O or AB for her too? So maybe she could be a donor for Vinson.

a reply to: Oleman

Thanks for clarifying that, I thought that Mr. Duncan was type O+, still Type Os can give blood to A and B and other Os, but A can only give to another A and B to another B, while A+B can give to either A or B.

That is why Mr. Duncan could not receive the plasma from donor A.

a reply to: Oleman

Thanks for that. I've been trying to find out the blood types of the infected. As a person with RH-negative blood, I've been very curious whether Ebola had the same aversion to RH-negative as HIV does.

Reservist Quarantined at Home as Ebola Precaution

A military reservist who was on a flight with a Dallas nurse diagnosed with Ebola has quarantined himself at his Texas home as a precaution, a Defense Department official said Thursday.

The official did not identify the reservist. He only said the reservist was assigned to Naval Air Station Fort Worth Joint Base, Texas. Air Force Times first reported the quarantine.

The reservist was showing no signs of the virus but quarantined himself at home for 21 days on advice of the military. The Texas case was believed to be the first involving a service member and a potential diagnosis of Ebola.

I'm glad they are being over cautious here.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
Worst ... she was exposed and flew across the country while showing symptoms of having contracted ebola herself.

I just read that on the news, my jaw dropped. She flew on not only ONE, but TWO commercial flights...WHILE HAVING EBOLA SYMPTOMS.

Seriously, has the world gone mad?