Ebola patient was on flight from Cleveland to Dallas!

a reply to: SomePeople

Hon, sadly once ebola was allow to come into this country we all knew that it was going to spread, sadly the successful control of contagion is if the disease is isolated to one particular area or individuals.

thanks to incompetence coming from our so call leaders in charge, we may get a wide spread pandemic.

But lets hope it doesn't happen.

originally posted by: lovebeck
Working on adding the link as this is just breaking...

Link from CNN:

Ebola patient flew from Cleveland to Dallas

How did this even happen? Why was she allowed to travel? What the actual $&%* is going on here?

What I find astonishing is the CDC gave her permission to fly, then BLAMED it on her and said she should've known better and knew NOT to fly! WTH???? Are you kidding me? So the CDC is into victim blaming now? I mean they aren't good at stopping Ebola so they have to be good at SOMETHIING! Being that Dr. Frankenstein used to be an actual doctor he obviously knows how to blame nurses for his mess ups!

a reply to: Raxoxane

Such a lack of erring on the side of caution.I'm starting to sound like the captions on a Dogue picture,so I 'll just conclude that I don't understand this,for a South African like myself it makes no sense.

You and me both. We are reeling from this and then again, not. America talks a good line, we are good at promises.

I guess you have noticed lately that our foreign policy, our enormous debt, the endless wars, and other stuff like GMO, Gulf Oil spill, and the other lacking response to Hurricanes like Katrina, the shoot em up tragedies, etc.

I am wayy off topic but thought it pertinent to side with you about the worlds perspective. When are we going to straighten up and fly right? Any pointers?

PS: I sent you a U2U…

a reply to: SomePeople

Then you may want to refrain from political party name calling in your posts. There are political forums at your disposal here. Please. Thanks.

originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
a reply to: SomePeople

Then you may want to refrain from political party name calling in your posts. There are political forums at your disposal here. Please. Thanks.

I beg your pardon? Where did I use the name of a political party?

Are you just making stuff up?

a reply to: Valhall

Wow ... just wow!! Three people in one thread that would walk right through the screening process. And there are what ... 3,000 (truly) active posters to this site, and far fewer in this thread alone? I'll be thinking about that and what the CDC considers an effective method of screening.

Good to know you've got someone watching your back (I'd have never made that connection). But, next time you've got ear pain ... get your behind straight to the ER. It could be a bona fide emergency that could cost you your hearing. I'm not gonna be in trouble for scolding you, am I?

-Cheers

a reply to: marg6043

Since Ebola spreads exponentially, 1 becomes 2 becomes 4 becomes 8, etc. Duncan to Pham and Vinson means next in the pattern is for each of the nurses to have infected 2 others.

I see this as finally being some pre-emptive measures to control this.

a reply to: Snarl

My sister-in-law passed me a Oklahoma State Department of Health Acute Disease Service Public Health Fact Sheet today.

It says the symptoms of Ebola "...include high fever, headache, joint and muscle aches, sore throat, and weakness...."

followed by all the scary crap like explosive diarrhea, projectile vomiting and bleeding your spleen out through your eyeballs.

Okay, so let me ask you something....if you have a headache and some joint pain or headache and a sore throat, but you're "atypical"...like all us slightly less than majority people who tend to not run fevers...are you symptomatic?

I mean doesn't "symptomatic" mean you're exhibiting SOME symptoms? I don't think you can cherry pick it can you? I mean, you can't say you're symptomatic if you meet the temp threshold, but not symptomatic if you don't but have a raging headache, joint pain and muscle pain, right?

Or you skipped straight to diarrhea? What about then? Are you symptomatic then? The point is...they are stating AS FACT that someone isn't contagious UNTIL they are symptomatic. Which symptoms? Who picks when you are symptomatic?

*practicing medicine*

not just for steth-wearing monkeys anymore

a reply to: SomePeople

It's not that big of a deal, but I meant this post. It is generally understood that Ds are referred to as liberals and Rs as conservatives. We are all in this Ebola mess together was my point. We have enough problems to track without creating artificial divisions. If I read your post inappropriately, I apologize. If not, I just ask that we not go there...as it serves nothing imho in an Ebola thread. To each his own though. Peace. Sorry if I was gruff earlier. Your post below.

originally posted by: SomePeople
a reply to: Raxoxane

They're erring on the side of trying not to upset the bleeding heart, liberal do-gooders who will have us all exposed for the sake of saving a few.

I should have just ignored it like I usually do. Back to Ebola...

a reply to: DancedWithWolves

That's OK. A head's up, though - the context I intended was adjective.

a reply to: halfpint0701

Found this yesterday.

Since the number of known cases so far is only around 7,500, that suggests that the number of new cases is doubling approximately every two weeks. This is called exponential growth: not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6... but 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32.... If you put one grain of wheat on the first square of a chess-board, two on the second, and keep doubling the grains every square, there are not enough grains of wheat in the world to get you to the 64th square. [Source]

During the early days of the HIV/AIDS, there were some pretty good charts that showed the transmission too and how it grew. It's slow to start, but once it gets rolling....

ETA: To add to the fever discussion...I never run a fever, haven't since I was 6 and had tonsillitis, and even then I barely broke 100. When I had appendicitis about 10 years back, I had a normal temp with a WBC of 20,000+. My son is the same and so was my mom. Not everyone's immune system responds the same.

originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
Helmut up people, here we go.

Dallas Commissioners Will Declare State Of Disaster Tomorrow Over Ebola

While the message from the President is 'keep calm and avoid bodily fluids', it appears the commissioners in Dallas are slightly more concerned at the potential for Ebola to escalate:

*DALLAS COMMISSIONERS TO DECLARE LOCAL STATE OF DISASTER TOMORROW: NBC-TV*DALLAS COUNTY CONSIDERS DECLARING STATE OF DISASTER FROM EBOLA*DALLAS DISASTER DECLARATION WOULD ACTIVATE EMERGENCY PLAN

source



*Adjusts tinfoil hat chin strap*

*insert a bunch of bad words here*

Hubby is taking the middle child to tour Texas A&M University–Commerce this weekend. That is about 60 miles from downtown Dallas.

*rips off tin foil hat and kicks it.. gotta think about college for the boy* seriously, hubby did express that he is a wee bit worried about going into 'ebola country'. We are a cheeky bunch, but I could tell there was a bit of real concern in his voice.

I'm the smarty pants, I picked/demanded Texas A&M University–Corpus Christi to tour.

originally posted by: Valhall
a reply to: Snarl

My sister-in-law passed me a Oklahoma State Department of Health Acute Disease Service Public Health Fact Sheet today.

It says the symptoms of Ebola "...include high fever, headache, joint and muscle aches, sore throat, and weakness...."

followed by all the scary # like explosive diarrhea, projectile vomiting and bleeding your spleen out through your eyeballs.

Okay, so let me ask you something....if you have a headache and some joint pain or headache and a sore throat, but you're "atypical"...like all us slightly less than majority people who tend to not run fevers...are you symptomatic?

I mean doesn't "symptomatic" mean you're exhibiting SOME symptoms? I don't think you can cherry pick it can you? I mean, you can't say you're symptomatic if you meet the temp threshold, but not symptomatic if you don't but have a raging headache, joint pain and muscle pain, right?

Or you skipped straight to diarrhea? What aobut then? Are you symptomatic then? The point is...they are stating AS FACE that someone isn't contagious UNTIL they are symptomatic. Which symptoms? Who picks when you are symptomatic?

*praciting medicine*

not just for steth-wearing monkeys anymore

sigh, well anytime you get sick, we are taught, not to go around and get other sick... I think the diarea and the high projectile vomiting is a dead give away, but by that time, I think your in trouble We need more information on the disease I am afraid..

Anyhow this story is long from over.. The truth will reveal itself.

Good night.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: DancedWithWolves

Well, well, well, only two infected nurses and now is a declaration of emergency, I guess with all the bureaucracy that our nations has dig itself in, they need state of emergency to be able to function, because obviously they are nothing but a whole bunch of morons making decisions.

Will a state of emergency increase the intelligence of the morons"?, nah, this is to be able to appropriate federal funds to pay for more bureaucratic crap.

you can no fix stupid

Nope.. but it makes want to run around flapping my arms and cry! Why do I feel like the pooch has been totally screwed?

a reply to: Valhall

I have wondered this, too, and can't seem to find an answer. You can try calling Ohio's 24-hour call center.

COLUMBUS - The Ohio Department of Health has activated an Ebola call center following news that a woman infected with the disease spent the weekend in the Akron area.

The number is 1-866-800-14104 and will be staff initially for 24 hours a day.

The call center is housed at the Ohio Department of Health and began operations at 6 p.m. Wednesday. It will be staffed by public health nurses and other public health professionals with infectious disease specialists as needed.

“ODH’s call center will provide timely, accurate, credible information about Ebola and the state’s response,” said Dr. Mary DiOrio, state epidemiologist and interim chief of the ODH Bureau of Prevention and Health Promotion. “While initially 24-hours-a-day, the call center hours may be changed as call volume indicates.”

I'm another one who's body temperature and blood pressure are closer to a corpse's than a living being. Usually I know when I have an infection because the lymph nodes under my armpits swell, not by getting a fever.

a reply to: halfpint0701

Me too!

We are all so different. Oldest child, when he runs a 99. 1 it is a major fever for him and he becomes a lump, my other 2, literally can run amuck, and carry on as normal with a 103 temp! 2 test a false neg for strep, and it has to be grown, 1 can have an ear infection w/out a fever. And myself, and the younger 2 run fevers with allergies.

It says the symptoms of Ebola "...include high fever, headache, joint and muscle aches, sore throat, and weakness...."

Or, just your normal symptoms during rag weed season for half the fricken state of TEXAS.

a reply to: Justaposter
Things are cranking up.
Disaster Declaration Planned for Ebola Fight

Disaster Declaration Planned for Ebola Fight
Dallas County Commissioners will hold a special meeting Thursday to declare a disaster over "the potential for widespread or severe damage, injury, loss or threat of life resulting from the Ebola virus."The declaration could help officials impose new travel restrictions on health care workers who may have cared for the first Dallas Ebola patient, Thomas Eric Duncan.

www.nbcdfw.com...

a reply to: drwill

You know, I think we all figured out that things were worse then they were saying. But with the declaration of disaster, it just kicked it up a turbo notch.

twitter.com...

Eagle Mtn-Saginaw ISD: family w/ child at Lake Pointe Elem in isolation b/c family member was on plane w/ Amber Vinson. @NBCDFW

originally posted by: CardiffGiant
my theory is she knew she was exposed...so she jumps a plane to cleveland to visit her family. after all, she was exposed so it might be the last time.
then once symptoms start

I agree with you... she started feeling sick and got scared so she rushed home.

I wonder when she bought her plane ticket... How far in advance?