A health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital has tested positive for Ebola

originally posted by: kosmicjack

originally posted by: lakesidepark
When do I tell my employer I refuse to get on an airplane? When I refuse to stay in hotels and eat in public? When I refuse to be around others that choose to continue to do so? When I finally refuse to report to the office completely and self-isolate? Will I wait too late and kill myself and my wife?

These are serious thoughts to consider.

Exactly.

It's breaking my mind.

Everyone here knows that ive been on this since day one, since its in my area....and many know ive been trying to spread the word on the dangers, and how its really spread to the best of our knowledge and whats BS from the News.......and I agree this is scary

But im not sure its time yet to refuse to do certain things......just keep your hygeine as best as you can...

I have a flight out of DFW on thursday and returning a week later........I dont plan on missing my flight.....

a reply to: kosmicjack
Our hospital left a stack of memos in the doctor's lounge, next to a fruit bowl. The fruit disappeared faster than the memos. So far, the administration has had meetings about meetings.

a reply to: kosmicjack

I have been reading that the DOD is the one behind the testing of one of the ebola vaccines, is a small hint that the company testing under DOD is Glaxosmith and prior to the deployment of the troops they were requested about 1000 trials.

Also the article explain that trial vaccine was to be used on DOD personal working on ebola in Africa.

It didn't say that it was to be military per say, but DOD personal.

a reply to: marg6043

There would be a record of her treating him if she did... on his first visit. He visited the ER and was released on his first visit, I believe?
Does this woman work in the ER?

Hi Bludragin, Yes breaches of protocol have occurred and their is another issue of saving money or the economy if that's what you want to call it. Everybody, The Hospital in question, The CDC, The Government don't want to see this become an expensive drag on the economy. They will do anything, including lack of proper training, equipment and proper staffing. to stop the economy going into a tailspin over this. IMHO. Peace All Arjunanda










Hey Bludragin, Yea, Breata reply to: bludragin

originally posted by: Shana91aus
Wow this is really bad! So considering it was at the same hospital as Duncan, was it someone who was treating him then?? Maybe now they will realise hazmat gear is NOT going to help them from being infected. This is bad i really hope that person hasn't been going about their daily life spreading it!

It is only spread when they are showing symptoms.....again, only when showing symptoms.

originally posted by: Realtruth

originally posted by: Snarl

originally posted by: Realtruth
www.cnn.com...

Ebola is not airborne?

I love the doom porn, but even I will tell you it has NOT gone airborne. The rates of infection would be 'with no doubt' obvious.

And you tell us that Ebola has not gone airborne. Interesting I don't have the qualifications, nor the resources to tell anyone either way. Do you?

Sort'a, kind'a, maybe. Only, no one I know has worked directly with Ebola. My exposure was limited to fieldwork with Hep A & B. Bad stuff, but nothing like a Class IV. No one these days bothers teaching that stuff in a serious way.

originally posted by: drwill
a reply to: kosmicjack
Our hospital left a stack of 5 page memos in the doctor's lounge, next to a fruit bowl. The fruit disappeared faster than the memos. So far, the administration has had meetings about meetings.

I'm quite sure that if your hospital has an Ebola case, that those memos would disappear faster than the fruit, and most likely the fruit wouldn't even get eaten.

Just saying.

a reply to: Realtruth
True. And scary.

originally posted by: Realtruth
Ask yourselves this simple rhetorical question.

If you were a nurse, doctor, or healthcare professional, and knew already how deadly Ebola was would you break protocol anywhere?

I know what my answer would be.

You are talking about people who are not used to using these protocols at all. Sure they're used to dealing with infectious diseases, but nothing like this and not used to using protocols at this level.

Old habits are hard to break even if you know your life depends on them. Even with people who are used to using these protocols in their daily routine, mistakes happen. To error is human and sometimes to error can cost you your life. Hopefully, this doesn't happen here.

a reply to: butcherguy

I am not sure, it doesn't specified her whereabouts before becoming infected, but if we take the time line of Mr. Duncan first visit to the hospital and when he was officially diagnosed, we can pretty much add one and one.

Anybody that came in contact with him while he was sick before been in the hospital should be showing sings of infection around right now, so truthfully I expect more people coming down sick in the next few days and not knowing how they got it..

a reply to: PurpleDog UK

I know, that is why I am sure that is more people to come down infected after Mr. Duncan first and second visit to the hospital.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: kosmicjack

I have been reading that the DOD is the one behind the testing of one of the ebola vaccines, is a small hint that the company testing under DOD is Glaxosmith and prior to the deployment of the troops they were requested about 1000 trials.

Also the article explain that trial vaccine was to be used on DOD personal working on ebola in Africa.

It didn't say that it was to be military per say, but DOD personal.

There a decent number of vaccines that are only available to the military and others who have an explicit need for. There is an encephalitis vaccine for example that is one of them.

a reply to: marg6043

Oh...
I forgot. In the presser this morning, they announced that this woman was not in the high risk group that was being monitored. If she had contact with him before, she would have had been in the high risk group.

a reply to: ketsuko

I will post the link to the article, interestingly the article is from back in August, when GlaxoSmith go the approval by the DOD to test.

Just read that is was to be use on "DOD personnel" but not it doesn't use the work military.

Science/ Science Now
FDA authorizes Ebola test; vaccine will probably take until 2015
Ebola in Liberia

This article is related to: Medical Research, Health, Ebola, Food and Drug Administration, National Institutes of Health, Public Transportation Disasters, U.S. Department of Defense

FDA uses emergency authority to deploy an unapproved Ebola virus test kit developed by the U.S. military

Ebola virus vaccine not likely to be approved until 2015, health official says

Experimental Ebola virus vaccine tested in monkeys. Health official calls results 'impressive'
August 6, 2014, 5:35 PM

The FDA has authorized use of an unapproved Ebola virus test under a special emergency-use provision, although efforts to develop a vaccine for the deadly illness are unlikely to bear fruit until 2015, officials say..

The test-tube diagnostic test was developed by the U.S. military and is used to detect the Zaire strain of Ebola, which has infected at least 1,711 and killed 932 in West Africa.

"The test is designed for use in individuals, including Department of Defense personnel and responders, who may be at risk of infection as a result of the outbreak," FDA spokeswoman Stephanie Yao said in a statement.

www.latimes.com...

This article was even before Obama send the Military troops and personnel to Liberia.

a reply to: butcherguy

I don't trust much of what the CDC is saying, why? because they have an agenda behind the ebola breakout in the US, and the scaremongering, Ebola tend to live in surface for while, anybody in that hospital could have been infected, time will tell.

Haven't read the whole thread, I admit. I will now.

So a second case, assumed from his first trip to the hospital, and isn't this just day, what, 18?

originally posted by: bludragin
a reply to: CardiffGiant

Broke protocol? Or was she not properly trained and supervised by the CDC? I vote for the latter. If, indeed, breaches of protocol are to blame.

ok. so she could have broke protocol and not even known it
thats what i said earlier

a reply to: CardiffGiant

And don't we need to be absolutely SURE of the pathogen traits that we are dealing with to actually follow proper protocol?

I'm not even sure the CDC knows how this strain is behaving.

a reply to: thesmokingman

It is only spread when they are showing symptoms.....again, only when showing symptoms.

So what exactly are those symptom(s) ?

What is the very first symptom to surface that indicates the person is now officially contagious ?

A headache ?
A sweat droplet from the brow ?
A slight warmish feeling ?
A sore pinky finger ?
What ?


Do you steer clear of anyone with rosy cheeks ?
Clammy hands ?
Oily skin ?
An eye twitch ?


What is the very first indicator that the person you're standing next to in the grocery aisle has become contagious with the ebola virus, whilst you're about to use the same debit card key pad that they just used ?


Enquiring minds need to know.

Thank you.