Those that express disgust with Sandy Hook deniers, do you want the truth or not?

a reply to: Urantia1111

You do realize the thing that gets them trashed is the ludicrous lie that no children died that day, right?

www.snopes.com...

originally posted by: captaintyinknots

originally posted by: LurkingRelentlessly
nobody died in newtown that year.

says so on the FBI's website.

still clinging to that, are we? Theres a long thread that completely debunks that on here right now.

whats there to debunk? it says 0.

Somehow, I don't think Snopes is the be-all and end-all of truth telling.

But Halbig is deeply flawed as a knight in shining armor in all this; he asks dopey questions that have already been answered numerous times (why don't we see children exiting the building? Because the national press didn't arrive on scene for about an hour, and by then the children were down at the firehouse and being picked up by parents; we have plenty of video that, which he and the bloviating Fetzer ignore); the EMTs were not allowed in the building to save them the sight of a couple dozen kids with between three and eleven holes a piece in them; the police had no trouble declaring them all dead without a doctor doing the job because of the aforementioned three to eleven holes, each small six year old body having at least one head shot (wounds incompatible with life don't require the presence of a doctor to declare death), ditto that for why Medivac helicopters weren't requested; Halbig has said that he was a school principal but it turns out that it was a dicey on-line school with no brick address (why would such a school need a principal?) and some of his other personal details seem a tad sketchy, not the least of which is the money grubbing he's done.

Was there a lot hinky about Sandy Hook? Yes, including the DNA on a letter in the Lanza house traced to a felon in NYC (?), the guy in camo in the woods, and the way the house looked staged rather than like the two Lanzas really lived there; the lack of on line presence of Adam and the arsenal in the house (they called the mother a prepper but she didn't have a prepper's food stash, only lots and lots of guns...); the way the brother was arrested as a suspect even though he was out of town that day, the father's alias' that make you wonder about him... the photoshopping of the Adam Lanza picture to have the Holmes 'crazy person' bug eyed look, the video CNN still uses of the cops storming the wrong school, and last but not least, the massive amount of money donated and the instantaneously set up fundraisers for 'Emilie' and the rest of the kids... who the hell thinks about raising money as a first response to their kid getting murdered, and how come all the dead kids in Chicago etc. don't get millions in donations? What's up with the pretty uber-photogenic blonde victims being thrown at us....? Personally I question whether Adam acted alone or was an MK Ultra patsy and the guy in camo wasn't a second shooter but that is not the question Halbig is asking about...

So yeah, lots of questions but Halbig is just after the money and 15 minutes of fame. We'll never get the truth his way.

You should try doing some research instead of letting yourself get led around by alex jones.

a reply to: CoriSCapnSkip

snopes declares the infowars article and the allusion to a false flag false.

they declare the FBI statistics a record-keeping anomaly.

the FBI says they did it at the request of the conn. state police.

im sure the cripps and bloods have requested the same thing for Comptons statistics...

Where does the Senator for Connecticut go after being in the wheelhouse during Sandy Hook?

Hollywood, of course , where he is now President of the Motion Picture Association of America.

originally posted by: LurkingRelentlessly
a reply to: CoriSCapnSkip

snopes declares the infowars article and the allusion to a false flag false.

they declare the FBI statistics a record-keeping anomaly.

the FBI says they did it at the request of the conn. state police.

im sure the cripps and bloods have requested the same thing for Comptons statistics...

not true whatsoever. They are filed under a differemt category altogether.

originally posted by: Psynic
Where does the Senator for Connecticut go after being in the wheelhouse during Sandy Hook?

Hollywood, of course , where he is now President of the Motion Picture Association of America.

you mean the guy who left office over a year before the sandy hook tragedy, chris dodd?

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: Urantia1111

You do realize the thing that gets them trashed is the ludicrous lie that no children died that day, right?

OK,lets start there.The current admin. is in the midst of some big changes for our country.Despite ISIS and Al Quada they have conservatives and constitutionalists slated as our number 1 terrorism threat despite no active groups and all of the recent mass shooters coming from liberals and progressives.They want our guns desperately but we have a right to bare arms and without public consent they wont get them.First they tried fast and furious.Selling guns to illegal cartels in mexico in the hopes of curbing sales here once the unregistered guns turned up at crime scenes.It was leaked,they were busted.In order to sway the people to support them they needed something with emotional baggage like a mass school shooting.If you look at the past our govt is no stranger to false flags and they know how to do it.And when you control the media the locals and all info going out it is very easy to stage this without killing kids,so why would you if you didnt have to? Nobody saw the bodies, they supposedly were whisked away in the middle of the night with no witnesses.No company was hired to clean up the bio hazard and it would have been messy. No paramedics responding were let in to even view the bodies let alone determine there condition,and they say thats because they were obviously dead with Lanza hitting each victim 3-5 times in the face and torso,expelling 150 rounds in 8 minutes with a 96% hit rate, killing all and injuring none.
This doesn`t even cover half the reasons the story is implausible and to have legitimate questions about things that don`t add up is a healthy response to any thing in life and if its all so cut and dry for you why won`t the govt simply answer the questions that have people concerned rather than sealing everything so nothing can leak out .If this doesnt bother you then you obviously dont feel like i do when i say they work for us and have no right to lie to us.

a reply to: fartsmeller46

The return key is your friend.

Now, ignoring all the irrelevance there, lets address a thing or two:
1) paramedics saw bodies.
2) some of the funerals had open caskets.
3) people knew the victims.


Now, do you have any "overwhelming evidence", or do you just have questions and false information?

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Um, the government right now IS very evil.

Okay.

Do you think that "they" staged a terror event in which "No children were harmed in this production.... [jazz hands] ... FOLKS!" ?

I already said in my post you responded to that I do not know for sure, and then I explained further. I know that to have deaths occur from guns, there is going to be gallons of blood on the floor and everywhere. Except no one has a clue and no one can be found by private investigators that ever saw anything bloody or anything ever mentioned about blood., no one can find anyone in that town near or far who brought any, or even one body bag to that school.

Here is what I am saying: Besides talking about if kids died, lets first look at what it was shown on television as: The entire event was carefully put together to manipulate the public, (because they are telling you what to think and feel, not presenting any evidence of mass murder). They are just commanding people to obey whatever they say.and done so with threats to the public not to question anything or face government harassment which was publically stated by the top police officer of the state, (who is a total retard to begin with and was never convincing). The media and the officials taking part in this made more mistakes and adding in news of second shooters, a purple van seen speeding away, then later omitting all of the above, then again, then omitting again.

Whoever wrote their screen play and scripts must have been on a combination of lobotomizing drugs or worse, judging by the lack of anything fitting together like a believable fiction. Based on the behavior and actions of those presenting the event, it comes out that they only did it to pass strict firearms controls that don't do anything except make government feel a little bit safer from you.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Thats, again, simply not true.

Google the first responders.

They saw plenty.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

You responded to my post:

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: fartsmeller46

I still see people express outrage and bitter condemnation to those that would dare deny a grieving parents ASSERTION that they had lost a child at Sandy Hook.

I haven't watched the video, but before I invest 2 hours in it, are you, or the video's guy, gonna try to tell me that children DID NOT die at Sandy Hook? Why, if the government is so very evil, why wouldn't the government kill innocent children and teachers for their evil agenda?

I'm not going to invest 2 hours in a video that's going to tell me that children didn't die.

A tragedy happened and children died.

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: fartsmeller46

The return key is your friend.

Now, ignoring all the irrelevance there, lets address a thing or two:
1) paramedics saw bodies.
2) some of the funerals had open caskets.
3) people knew the victims.


Now, do you have any "overwhelming evidence", or do you just have questions and false information?

You just experienced being absolutely destroyed by cold hard facts stated by the OP and you just brush away the truth like a horse fly. The truth keeps coming back and you brush it away again. This is what we call: "Being In a state of denial."

We the people did NOT see any bodies.
We the people did NOT see a single drop of blood.
We the people were threatened on national television to believe whatever they told us.

In the court of traditional laws and procedures, no one could say for sure that any crime took place, especially murder without seeing the bodies in public and by ALL of the public.
ANY OTHER PRESENTATION IS SUSPECT, and anyone who would present a finding of fact even though no physical bodies or blood was ever shown to the public, cannot ever be trusted by the public ever again. They totally circumnavigated AROUND normal and traditional procedures because they feel guilty and feel exposed that someone would "Know" they are lying.
And they still screwed it up bad.. Very bad.

You just aren't going to ever figure it out unless you jump off that train ride.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

You responded to my post:

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: fartsmeller46

I still see people express outrage and bitter condemnation to those that would dare deny a grieving parents ASSERTION that they had lost a child at Sandy Hook.

I haven't watched the video, but before I invest 2 hours in it, are you, or the video's guy, gonna try to tell me that children DID NOT die at Sandy Hook? Why, if the government is so very evil, why wouldn't the government kill innocent children and teachers for their evil agenda?

I'm not going to invest 2 hours in a video that's going to tell me that children didn't die.

A tragedy happened and children died.

Yes I agree that it could have happened, and maybe did. But you don't know for a fact and I don't either, because we are not going to see any bodies or physical evidence ever. It has been sent over seas, and it wasn't a round trip ticket to get it there.

You will have to rely on FAITH in the people telling you it happened, as true.
I on the other hand will not believe one way or another, but I only see the officials attitudes and manipulations as evidence of a deception being played out against the country. For now, that is the only proof or evidence I have seen that shows what happened.
Also, watching what happened AFTER the event. The new legislation, the new federal level attempts to strip freedoms away. ALL KINDS OF LUNATIC MINDED HORSE CRAP by the president. This is what shows us what they wanted all along...

No way anyone should believe that kind of charade, because they are rookies and incompetent at even doing a purse snatching, let alone a big event like SH. When people lie they always make big huge mistakes, and they try to patch those mistakes with even bigger ones. It ends up a giant quilt work of zig zag garbage any child could see through. But not brainwashed company line towers. Children can see through junk like this because they are usually not biased to start with.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: captaintyinknots
a reply to: fartsmeller46

The return key is your friend.

Now, ignoring all the irrelevance there, lets address a thing or two:
1) paramedics saw bodies.
2) some of the funerals had open caskets.
3) people knew the victims.


Now, do you have any "overwhelming evidence", or do you just have questions and false information?

You just experienced being absolutely destroyed by cold hard facts stated by the OP and you just brush away the truth like a horse fly. The truth keeps coming back and you brush it away again. This is what we call: "Being In a state of denial."

We the people did NOT see any bodies.
We the people did NOT see a single drop of blood.
We the people were threatened on national television to believe whatever they told us.

In the court of traditional laws and procedures, no one could say for sure that any crime took place, especially murder without seeing the bpodies in public and by ALL of the public.
ANY OTHER PRESENTATION IS SUSPECT, and anyone who would present a finding of fact even though no physical bodies or blood was ever shown to the public, cannot ever be trusted by the public ever again. They totally circumnavigated AROUND normal and traditional procedures because they feel guilty and feel exposed that someone would "Know" they are lying.
And they still screwed it up bad.. Very bad.

You just aren't going to ever figure it out unless you jump off that train ride.

what facts? I have seen none.
This is just foolishness. are you seriously claimng that if the bodies arent shown publicly, no murder took place?

Where do you guys even come up with this crap? Are you that intent on gaining notoriety that youll cling to utter nonsense?

a reply to: captaintyinknots

so then the event was not a murder?

a reply to: LurkingRelentlessly

Do some research. Please.

Or just look up the thread. Its all lId out there.

The stats are under state police, not fbi, and under active shooters, not murder.

Its all there for ya.

a reply to: captaintyinknots

yes i realize they published their own stats. those are not what im referring to.

i am referring to the stats the FBI released which did not say "N/A" or reference any outside source. it said 0. 0 is a tangible result, and it is the result that they published.

the fact that another entity released their own numbers in no way negates what the FBI published. it is a separate and additional publication.

in the FBI's statistics there is no active shooter category.