So, my moms kids (Cats) have cancer. Any suggestions?

So a quick review about my mom: She loves animals. She would swerve her car into a pole to save a squirrel. Now that I think about it, that's actually a true story. She totaled her camero just to save a squirrel one time when I was very young.

She has been visiting the same clinic for he cats for 28 years. The first pair of cats we had were actual twins, born in the same sack and all. They both lived to about the age of 17-18 and now she has two more cats who were born of the same litter (not twins this time) and one young cat she saved. She was babysitting a friends daughter and this young cat (1-2 months old) was out in the winter of michigan and after a few days of feeding it she couldn't take it anymore and said she kept having dreams about the kitten and she had to bring it home.

So now to the issue. One of the brother cats (by the name of pug) was just sent to the doctor to find out why he had a large lump. Come to find out, it's cancer and it would cost thousands of dollars to attempt chemo which would hurt it even more. Not only that but the doctor still charged her 550 dollars for him to tell her to "Enjoy the time you have with him". I myself will be calling this doctor to tell him how I feel about that. My mom has been a client for so long and cares so much about animals I just feel as though maybe just ONE time the vet could give something back to my mom by simply saying "This test was on us".

So, I'm here wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a natural or less expensive way to either prolong the cats life Without suffering or for a natural way to possibly cure the cat.

Thank you all in advance for your suggestions and I'll respond whenever I can. These cats are like kids to my mom and I hate for her to be going through this. She just doesn't have the funds to pay for anything expensive, she lives paycheck to paycheck.

Thank you all.

I had a cat with cancer years ago, she was old but we gave her a chance. The cancer came back a couple of years later. She lived a long happy life and I am ever so grateful for the years we spent together. Your choice isn't an easy one and I wish you the best.

Not a fan of cats. But not a fan of suffering either. If they get too bad euthanasia might have to be considered.

My only suggestion would would be to feed your cat herbs. If your cat is suffering from viruses or parasites. Just like humans it needs to arm itself with organisms and plant based substances created by these organisms and the chemical proteins within the plant cells carry defence and healing properties.

Plants are the only organism that can regrow limbs, Roots and vegetation. A plant that is dying can turn the cycle of Death around and regrow.

Some trees that have been cut down do survive, And their branches regrow from the stump. If left untouched the tree will regrow in a few years. These things can and do happen in the plant world.

Cat's also have intestinal bacteria which secrete enzymes that are taken through the blood. These enzymes when absorbed can trigger immunity responses.

So even if people say bacteria cannot fight Viruses, They can. Because they hold a lot more information in the form of viral RNA converted into DNA for the cells own chromosom.

Cat's are surprisingly Omnivores, And they do require some vegetation in their diet.
A number of these plants can help your cat and are fairly good for them.

you can control the growth of intestinal bacteria, Bacteria trigger poisons to kill other bad bacteria with defensive enzymes. If it is a bacterial infection, the chemicals in these plants will kill the bad bacteria and leave the good bacteria alone.

I suggest Oragano, Lemon Balm, and basil. These need to be fresh, get some fish oil if you have to put it on the plant to get the cat to eat it.

Achillea
African Violet
Alyssum
Aster
Basil
Bean Sprouts
Begonia
Buddleia
Calendula
Catmint
Catnip
Celosia
Cleome
Chamomile
Chervil
Chives
Columbine
Coneflower
Coriander
Cosmos
Cress
Dahlia
Dianthus
Dill
Dorotheanthus
Forget-me-not
Heloptrope
Hollyhock
Hyssop
Impatients
Japanese Matatabi
Lavender
Lemon Balm
Lemon Verbena
Lettuce
Lovage
Marum
Miniature Rose
Mint
Monarda
Nasturtium
Oats
Orchic
Oregano
Pansy
Parsley
Pea (not sweetpea)
Peppermint
Petunia
Phlax
Portulaca
Rose
Rosemary
Sage
Scabiosa
Shasta Daisy
Snapdragon
Spearmint
Spider plant
Spinach
Strawflower
Sunflower
Tarragon
Thyme
Torenia
Verbascum
Violet
Wheat
Zinnia

Cat's can eat all of these things, But go for the potent herbs like oragano and lemon balm, basil and rose mary.
This should really beef up your cats immune system as well as aid in malnurishment.





And feed your cat some raw clean meat
here's how to prepare a raw diet for a cat.

The cat is considered by scientists to be a strict carnivore and the dog is considered to be an omnivore. Both species are in the Class Mammalia and the Order Carnivora, but here's the difference: The cat cannot sustain its life unless it consumes meat in some form.

You can feed your cat plants but you need to incorperate meat into it.
Which means you should beable to spice up some of these meat soups you can make with fresh blended herbs, Only cut the herbs when you are feeding them. This new diet should perk up your pet and remove any malnurishments.
These are just my suggestions tho, A human with cancer would use a slightly different approach ( Less raw meat and more raw vegies, humans by nature tho can consuming raw meat but worms and pathogens usually infect meat)

Try these steps and you may see a full recovery. Cats are Carnivores, But are in the same mamalian family as Dogs so can eat plants but need to incorperate some meat into their diet because unlike dogs who can survive off a bigger portion of greens but both require meat. Just like we humans require meat or an exotic assortment of plants and organisms to eat to compensate.

Hope this information helps. As i mentioned Oragano Basil rose mary lemon balm

do a search. threrare a bunch of threads that have alternative methods. some methods are outside t&c or to close for me to mention. some say soursop fruit, baking soda, apricot kernals, oxygen, tumeric....the list goes on and on.

best of luck

a reply to: AnuTyr

Hmm? Makes me wonder if catnip serves a purpose? I am now wondering if these cats have ever had catnip?

a reply to: Polymath

Some guy on the Pot thread said his dogs cancer on the skin was cured by cannabis oil. You never know i guess.

a reply to: proob4



catnip is a social thing for cats. Just like how we humans have mary jane. Cats have cat nip.
Does mary jane help us? To many studies to count dealing with treating ailments of many verities.

What is catnip? Catnip is a perennial herb from the mint family Labiatae. It has a square, hairy stalk with typically geen/grey coloured heart shaped leaves that have scalloped edges. Flowers grow in spikes, reaching 1/2 inch in length. It is best known for its ability to get cats high.

pets.webmd.com...

Catnip needs to be studied more.

Here's an interesting quote.

Catnip, catmint, catwort, field balm -- it doesn't matter what you call it. Lions, tigers, panthers, and your common domestic tabby just can't seem to get enough of this fragrant herb. Originally from Europe and Asia, minty, lemony, potent catnip -- Nepeta cataria -- has long been associated with cats. Even its Latin-derived cataria means "of a cat." And research shows that cats big and small adore this weedy, invasive member of the mint family. But why do they like catnip so much? Is it safe? And what does it mean if your cat doesn't like it?

Catnip's Effects It's genetics that determines whether your feline friend falls for this cousin to basil and oregano. About one cat in two inherits a sensitivity to the herb. But you won't know if your kitten is one of them until sometime between the ages of 3 and 6 months. Catnip's allure is in its volatile oil, specifically one chemical in that oil -- nepetalactone. Found in catnip's leaves, stems, and seeds, it only takes one or two sniffs of that wondrous oil before susceptible felines are licking, chewing, and rolling head-over-tail in kitty bliss

Cat's love the mint family. Which is why i mentioned incorperating it into their diet.

originally posted by: Polymath
So a quick review about my mom: She loves animals. She would swerve her car into a pole to save a squirrel. Now that I think about it, that's actually a true story. She totaled her camero just to save a squirrel one time when I was very young.

She has been visiting the same clinic for he cats for 28 years. The first pair of cats we had were actual twins, born in the same sack and all. They both lived to about the age of 17-18 and now she has two more cats who were born of the same litter (not twins this time) and one young cat she saved. She was babysitting a friends daughter and this young cat (1-2 months old) was out in the winter of michigan and after a few days of feeding it she couldn't take it anymore and said she kept having dreams about the kitten and she had to bring it home.

So now to the issue. One of the brother cats (by the name of pug) was just sent to the doctor to find out why he had a large lump. Come to find out, it's cancer and it would cost thousands of dollars to attempt chemo which would hurt it even more. Not only that but the doctor still charged her 550 dollars for him to tell her to "Enjoy the time you have with him". I myself will be calling this doctor to tell him how I feel about that. My mom has been a client for so long and cares so much about animals I just feel as though maybe just ONE time the vet could give something back to my mom by simply saying "This test was on us".

So, I'm here wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a natural or less expensive way to either prolong the cats life Without suffering or for a natural way to possibly cure the cat.

Thank you all in advance for your suggestions and I'll respond whenever I can. These cats are like kids to my mom and I hate for her to be going through this. She just doesn't have the funds to pay for anything expensive, she lives paycheck to paycheck.

Thank you all.

It depends on the type of cancer and how advanced it is. Please don't take the advice of people who suggest treatments, even "natural" treatments, without knowing the facts. There are holistic vets who could be consulted but the sad fact is that it's probably too late. If you can't afford to treat them at least be sure they are pain free. They should not have to suffer. If you want to talk to an expert about conventional treatment, talk to a veterinary cancer specialist. That would probably involve a trip to a veterinary medical school hospital. Your mother's vet could forward the test results. I doubt that you would expect an M.D. to do medical testing for free. Don't expect a vet to do it, either. It's more difficult to get into veterinary medical school than medical school. The doctor who treats you may have had had to settle for medical school when s/he couldn't get into veterinary medical school. Good luck.

originally posted by: proob4
Not a fan of cats. But not a fan of suffering either. If they get too bad euthanasia might have to be considered.

She will be doing that as soon as he starts suffering. Until then, she is going to do everything she can and what I can find from here and online for possible solutions.

@Night Star

Thank you so much for the kind words. The cat is only 8 years old which may seem old for a cat but the last brothers made it to 17 and 18. I know it's going to devastate her to think that the one cat no longer has his brother. To some, they are just animals but to my mother they are the world. Thanks again I really appreciate it and I'll pass the words along to her.

a reply to: Polymath

I shall tell you what happened to me one time.

My mom had a little dog that had Cushing's Disease, a kind of cancer that went undiagnosed for a year. During that time she kept getting little infections that we took her to the vet for and they never had a solution except testing and antibiotics. They seemed to work for a while but to no avail, the different infections kept confusing me.

One day I noted she was breathing real shallow. It was a holiday and we took her to the only emergency clinic that was open. The vet that examined her told us right away she had Cushing's and an X-ray showed us she had pneumonia. They put her in an oxygen tent. She tried to convince me (very nicely) to save her more suffering and suggested the only alternative. I could see that by listening her talk between the lines.

Heres the hard part. My mom remained in denial that there wasn't some treatment that would spare he and refused to consider that option. Since the little girl couldn't survive out of the O2 tank (like an aquarium), my mom insist she spend the night there… alone, sitting up, so she wouldn't drown in her own fluids. She must have sat there all night because in the early AM I called the vet and they said she was still sitting up. All night… alone in that cold, lonely tank.

A few minutes later they called me back and said she passed only they brought her back to life and they wanted us to come down right away. i drove down there and entered the operating theatre to find her laid our with tubes and beeping machines and right away I had them put her down. i am still sad she had to go through all that and I still tear up for abandoning her in there to die lonely and abandoned… to die twice.

Don't let your mom go here. Quality of life for the pets is more important than clinging to their miserableness.

When the time comes you will know what to do. If you can't convince her, maybe you can get a vet to. They will come to your home and do it there if you choose. I think that is cheaper. They get a shot and just go to sleep. I held mine until she was gone.

Thats why I think they made pets with such short lives compared to ours. So we learn about death. You can do it, just take it one day at a time. Keep gently checking with your mom about what to do, thus making her ask herself these questions.

a reply to: AnuTyr
Very interesting. Thanks for the reply and the info. Cats do go way back to Egyptian times and where revered in their artwork.

Never put 2 and 2 together for mankind's like for marijuana and cats for their catnip. Interesting to say the least. Possibly for a thread in itself?
Maybe we and cat's do have natural rights to certain herbs?

a reply to: Polymath

I do hope for the best with you kitties. Might really look into
AnuTyr's reply and see if that helps. Could not hurt?
Hope all goes well anyway.

Rick Simpson. And also MMS. There are other things to research as well.

Hi,

Check out the Liposomal Vitamin C Thread here in ATS....

I had trouble finding the references to healing pets but they're in there somewhere....it's a very long but highly informative thread...

I've been using Lip C for a year now and no more colds and rapid healing of viruses and infections....

Best regards,
Tarasco

a reply to: Polymath

give it some sodium bicarbonate get the medical grade due to the mercury ammonia arsenic and lead in the stuff they use in our food. I know cats respond well to bicarb. if that doesn't work see if anyone in your area has a lahkovsky machine.
the cannabis oil is very good for cancer as well. as well as wild blackberries they contain the same thing B15 that's in the apricot kernels without the cyanide.

also stop feeding it dairy as it contains igf4 a growth hormone that accelerates cancer although that is in humans not sure about cats although we are all made of the same stuff.

Would suggest cannabis oil, but due to where you're at(and if FL does get voted in as the 24th legal Medical state there will still be time before they can get help), in the meantime it will be a challenge to contact a Veterinarian who can help with that locally. While the net can give you advice, you have to mind many things that cannot be done at home and the overall comfort of the cats. Contact the closest "holistic" Veterinarian to you not only help with cancer already, but proper diet that can help it from growing less.