Do evil scary thougts get manifested? (law of attraction etc.) What is the solution for this?

(To the Mods can you place this in a forum where the chance of response and solution is the most high? Thanks)

I have a huge problem. And I hope you can help me and a lot of people who are somewhat spirituial suffering from this.

I am very scared that my thoughts and feelings will manifest because of a negative spiritual experience I had. I heared that if people die that their thought will manifest inmediatly. And I want to tackle this problem before I die. Because I have the most scary and evil thoughts. And those thoughts only occur when i belief that thoughts in general will manifest. Otherwise I have no problem with that.
Because of this I cannot live a normal life.

They say that law of attraction manifest if you do it with feeling. What if you are scared and have evil thoughts?
I don't want to be like that.
God did create this "problem"of thought manifesting so there must be a solution. Because God knows that people suffer from this. What is the solution?

I don't want any medical help, because it is really only spiritual.

Thank you very much I really aprecciate the effort!

I encourage you to find a licensed psychotherapist who is trained in transpersonal psychology. They will be able to help you in a safe and responsible way. Your experience may qualify as a "spiritual emergency" (google it for more details. Stanislav Grof's work, specifically).

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Ask yourself. Do I really want what I'm thinking right now to become reality? If the answer is an emphatic, NO! Then I think you'll be just fine. Relax. Take some deep breaths, and learn to clear your mind through meditation. In so doing, you'll learn to quiet the incessant chatter of the mind, and take control of your thoughts. You really do have power over your own thoughts. Never doubt that. You can literally choose what you think. It just takes a bit of persistence to do so.

Fear is great at manifesting more fear.

I don't think you even need to die ... just being depressed or under pressure is enough for thoughts to manifest themselves.

The best solution I have found is to keep your apartment or home well lit with lots of bright lights. That's one medically known way to avoid depression (related to hormones and light levels). There's that old belief that bad spirits would lurk in the dark areas of homes and attack anyone who was vulnerable. That's the spiritualist view.

Another thing you can try doing is to keep the TV or radio on, and play anything funny or interesting. But avoid any violent movies or dramas that play slow music; violins, pianos. That will depress you even more.

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I once dated a woman who was constantly negative, "oh great now all I need is for X to happen." It would happen, one string of nasty things that would be completely luck related. I tried talking to her about it, but that went no where. I had just started reading up on things like this and was going down a completely different path.

Here is a trick that helped me.

Take 30 minutes or however long it takes, write down exactly how you want your perfect life to be, mindset, love interests, finance, family health, your health and mental well being. Once done, send yourself an email or fold it up and keep it with you, read over it every time you get a chance keeping a positive mind. It doesn't take long but you either begin to see you already have all of those things, or you find your circumstances have changed to mirror those things.

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I wish you well. Self-destruction can be a hard habit to break. If you are honest with yourself and you are questioning and seeking, I'm confident you are already on a road to recovery. The trapped are those who never lift their heads to look for somewhere else to go. Don't worry too much about self-necromancy. The power of others is amazing and they can hold the world together regardless of what a sick person might do in a moment of confusion and desperation.

you are getting good advice from posters so far.
I'm going to go esoteric with my post,

Absolutely positively thoughts can manifest into reality.
I believe it happens in a butterfly effect kind of way.
A bug flies into the face of the driver of an oncoming
car, they miss the light and bam.. reality.
Perhaps your negative thoughts had something to do with that bugs movement.

Quantum entanglement is very real and scientists have a hard time
cramming their square peg rules into the round hole truth of results.
And at this point science has no idea whether you had something to do with the bug or not.
they'll say "Absolutely not" but they can't be absolute in this land.

Little insignificant manifestations caused by thoughts or even planetary
alignments rule everything. IMHO

Here's some nice easy witchcraft . If you have thoughts that you think are
causing you harm go out tonight because the moon is waning and ask the moon
to take them from you. Do this whenever you think to as it wanes.
When it begins to wax ask the moon for help in facilitating helpful
thoughts and manifestations .I believe ghost hunting and things of that genre
are the investigators own energies manifesting the things "that go bump in the night".

Hello, as someone that had a terrible case of OCD filled with guilt just a year ago, I hope to be able to help you here.

I'm familiar with transpersonal psychology as also with gestalt. I found a psychologist that helped me greatly this way for some months during last year, yet what truly helped me leave the bottomless pit was the Dharma way (Buddhism) and zazen meditation. Now, I won't go as far as to recommend you meditation since this practice has different results in every single of us, and is better to start along a qualified teacher that can guide you. But what I can tell you, is a series of advice.

There's no way you can stop horrible thoughts to spring from your mind. Actually, every single human creates such electricity manifesting in these things. Remember Inception? "If they tell you to not think about pink elephants, it is the very first thing you'll think about". So this is what happens exactly here. OCD or PTSD among others simply change the way the mind is acting, in the sense that you start perceiving what would otherwise be subconscious thoughts. It's scary yeah, but you don't have to suffer about it! Think of the thoughts as clouds in the sky, don't judge them just observe them pass through your sky.

Law of attraction as also Eastern philosophies tell you to be wary of your thoughts. However, the latter do not mean that whatever you think, that will manifest physically. It is not about what you think, but how you react to the things you think. If a thought appears, do not judge it! do not try to give it a rational solution! just observe it, and concentrate in something else. The overthought ideas have become obsessions that seem impossible to take way from mind, yet after a while of not interacting with them they will start disappearing (because you're no longer giving them a trigger response)

When they say to be careful with what you think because that will manifest, they originally meant to be careful with the interaction you have with such thoughts. In this way they will of course manifest, example:
A person feels a huge anger against someone, the idea to destroy (kill) him appears in his mind. Now, take into account that the thought hasn't killed anyone yet. HOWEVER, if the thought combined with anger and most importantly an agreement by the individual (remember it''s up to your free will) then of course it will manifest through motion.

Last but not least, I suggest you to investigate some things that might be helpful to you:
1) Mindful meditation. A good western beginner's guide is that by Jon Kabat Zinn.
2) FLOW psychology. This is has been written by Mihaily Cziszimentahily (think wrote it wrong sorry) his psychological theory could be well considered a shallow layer of mindfulness. Yet it helps great to help you resume a healthy life.
3) www.youtube.com... I recommend you to visit this channel. Dude has got some great videos that helped me greatly before.


I wish you the best, remember you have the inner tools to surpass this!

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Think whatever you want. That's the beauty of thinking.

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Sometimes i think of punching someone for absolutly no reason as if urged or compeled other times when really high on a sky scraper i have the urge to jump off. They are just random thoughts and urges and i feel they just represent the many possibilitys and choices that can be made at any snap shot moment in time.

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This could be one of those times I'm off my rocker...

Study the word;

Discipline in the context of the word disciple (plural disciples)

1. A person who learns from another, especially one who then teaches others.

Those thoughts can only manifest if you keep following that particular path. Maybe neuro-chemical imbalance?
Can you discipline yourself not to entertain such thoughts, or do you feel outside help (professional) may be required?

Seeking help online may be slight indication?

My brother recently told me of feeling a similar way. He is a good person generally but I noticed that he has issues letting go of things. He internalizes it and it compounds into a type of rage. He recently admitting (while drinking) that he has these crazy thoughts which he is scared that one day he won't be able to control (including violent actions towards me which I will not mention). He isn't schizophrenic as far as I know and I think (although I am not a professional) that it has its roots in the fact that he lives almost entirely in a virtual world. He is a hardcore gamer and I think that his lack of social interaction, besides the illusionary forms, is causing him damage. That and the fact that he internalizes feelings which never come out unless he drinks is not helping.

My suggestion to him was to give meditation and yoga (or some form of exercise) a chance and to try and meet people with similar likes. He agreed that yoga sounded interesting and that he tried to meditate once with calming and peaceful results. Problem is when he sobers up, it's almost like he's on auto, he'll turn on the computer and zone out into the world without following through. I accept that because he is his own person, but it does make me sad because I feel he is missing out on life and this life he is living is destructive to his mind, body and spirit. I am also aware that he needs a channel to release this anger or else it will manifest as a disease or even in an action in the external which he will regret.

As to your question about the law of attraction, I've too have wondered about that. What i read is that negative thoughts only really become destructive when you habitually think them (or rather when your BRAIN thinks them). You see there is the mind which is consciousness and there is the brain which is thought process and analytical "machine" that can be conditioned. Both aren't necessarily one and the same. Thoughts manifest from the brain and can be positive or negative. It is also possibly destructive if you fear and or conflict with your thoughts. So if you mind says "I hate new yorkers, they are xxxx" while on vacation in NYC and you recognize it as negative, one of the worse things you can do is to resist it. Example, after that thought by your brain, you will notice it and immediately think (brain) "this is negative, why do I think this, I need to be a better person" etc...

Rather, and counter to that, the best way is to observe them, and not have emotion attached to it. In other words don't give it power. Notice it, accept that your brain thought the thought, but let is go and instead find ways in which you admire them which is counter to the original thought ("NYers are tough, they really let nothing get them down")

That being said I've also read that you will need 3 times the amount of negative thoughts to override one positive thought. And it's really not the thought itself but rather how you feel about the thought (the emotional charge to it). The key to the law of attraction is belief and what is in your heart. It is also connected to your subconscious which is why habitual thoughts eventually stick.

I hope this helps, good luck!

Yes, That is called A "poltergiest".

Basic common sense is the key here.

If scary and evil thoughts did manifest when people die, dont you think that the Earth would have lots of demons and nasty creatures etc. roaming around?


Hospitals would be awash with evil stuff.
It would be caught on film.

Evil thoughts are exactly that. Thoughts.
What happens in your head dies with you when you die

Keep telling yourself that.

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Your worrying too much my friend. We are not capable enough yet as individual's to manifest our thought's. Your experience's tell us all just why this is. We are incapable of controlling our mind's at this point in our evolution, the danger involved would destroy us all. A crowd of strong willed people may be able to exert some influence with concentrated focus, this would depend on the size of the crowd and combined power of their will.

A good thing for you to remember is that you are not your thought's. Imagine yourself as a receiver picking up all sorts of information, some good some bad. The mind as a screen sending through text and images (information). The information that is bad, ignore. The information that is good and worthy of yourself, dwell on, enhance that thought.

Also don't think you are alone in this. Everyone, without exception has bad thought's. We are all the same species. The only difference between some of us is the time spent dwelling on negative thought's, that's all. I find it helpful when i have negativity just to laugh at it as it passes my consciousness. Don't give it any time, any energy, don't give it a second thought.

Good luck!

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Please check out Eckhardt Tolle, he has video's on you tube and has written several books, "The Power of Now and The New Earth". You ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHTS, YOU ARE THE STILLNESS BEHIND. Meditate & Learn to call upon that stillness, when your mind is clear of thoughts. Take baby steps, longer periods of stillness will occur (you will be able to shut off your thoughts at will more and more). Remember you are the immortal, divine consciousness, we all are, everything is. PEACE.

I think you've gotten very good advice. If you can't afford the psychiatrist, bright light your apartment, as suggested, and cognitively work at both detaching from the thoughts (as the poster above me said, you are not those thoughts, you are the stillness behind them) and letting them pass by you, as if a bad breeze flowing through the space you're currrently in, as well, but not attached to them in any way. I think they may be plaguing you, simply because you can't detach from them.

Having said that, I have your problem, as well, so I'll see if this works for me, too. I always have the feeling this is happening and it's directly related, and because of me, so then I feel it will manifest in reality. Sometimes I even feel people around me are making an effort to make such manifest, but first they'd have to know that thought, so this isn't possible, just a continuation of the circle of pain that made the thoughts to begin with. I won't ask about your personal life, but it may be that some of the cause is your relationships with people. There may be someone you're living with, or work with and thusly has some power over your life that is causing you some personal, emotional pain, that you can't get away from, either. The thoughts may be a branching out of this anxiety and emotional pain.
If you can avoid this, avoid it. If you can't, learn somehow to separate and protect yourself.

You aren't alone, OP. There are others of us that deal with this, as well. It isn't your fault. Remember that, above all else, and watch those thoughts come and go while cognitively working to think better things you really do wish to come to pass…
tetra50

originally posted by: DrunkYogi
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Imagine yourself as a receiver picking up all sorts of information, some good some bad. The mind as a screen sending through text and images .

Also don't think you are alone in this. Everyone, without exception has . . .

Exactly !
The mind receives information, the soul processes it.
It's what you do with that 'info' (false or true) is what counts.

#1) Take a brake from external influences (TV, shills and 'vampires', etc.)
#2) Surround your self with better associates, those that have positive
and healthy energy. Get in touch with mother nature.
#3) Emotions can be just as if not more harmful, in misleading as
misinformation is harmful.

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You've got some great information from folks on here UFO. I hope you use it to your advantage. Humbleone mentioned the book The Power of Now and said "YOU ARE NOT YOUR THOUGHT'S BUT THE STILLNESS BEHIND THEM". Tetra50 said "BRING THE LIGHT TO YOUR APARTMENT" and Tonedeaf recommends forgoing external influences and "SURROUND YOURSELF WITH BETTER ASSOCIATES" All great advice and worthy of another mention.

Thank you very much Folks!
I really appreciate the advices

For now what relly helps me is the stillnes of the mind with no thoughts at all. Just the silence of self talk. I have no one who is influencing me with bad thoughts it is just me and my fear of manifesting. I watched and read a lot of info about after death and some say that whatever you desire or think about will manifest in the other world inmediatly. So i thought there must be a solution to this problem. I was interested how other people dealt with this or what the "holy"people dealt with this problem and what the holy textbooks around the world dealt with this problem. Also what helps me is to think that God will sometimes wipe out the negative thought, because he is Good.

What I also try to do is have faith. That those thoughts are not my responsibilty but the responsibility of God and I am not God. I also try not to get emotional about that and try to conquer the fear. Becaus it is just the fear an emotion and pain where I am afraid for. It is not the big spider, but the emotion. It is not the fire, but the pain. And I have to accept that. I have to make them my allies. One other thing that reminds me is that all is well and will be well. All is perfect!. So I hope that anyone who is in deep spiritual emergency and is looking up for solutions on the internet and googles this will help them. Because I really do not wish anybody to experience what I have experienced.

Also keep posting (your) solutions. Because sooner or later we will all be confronted with that reality i think.

Thank you very much ATS members!