Assassination of Microbiologists

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I was meaning the others that were obviously not of a clearly suspicious nature.

Could this be the first stage towards Molecular Assemblers? Alot of futurists and scientists believe that the micro-biology rout could be the easist to accomlish. What if these scientists were involved and in order to make sure that the first gen technology doesn't get into the wrong hands they killed them. Second gen tech would't be nearly as dangerous. Actually this has been suggested by K. Erik Drexler himself(allthough without the assasinations) in his book Engines of Creation

Sardion, this looks like a really good article so far. Especially when mentioning local supression. I'm going to give it a good read and then I will post more. Thank you very much for finding that link.

Originally posted by infinite8
Sardion, this looks like a really good article so far. Especially when mentioning local supression. I'm going to give it a good read and then I will post more. Thank you very much for finding that link.

Remember its only chapter 12 of a 15 chapter book. Here is the link to the Table of contents in case you want to read the whole thing.

www.foresight.org...

EDIT: And this book is kinda old as well, was published in 1986-87 I believe. He predicted the WWW 10 years before it became popular so K. Erik Drexler knows his stuff.

[edit on 1-1-2005 by sardion2000]

Discussions on Coast-to-Coast AM tonight about the murder of microbiologists.

Seems to be a link to genetisists working with the Navy and a lot of secrecy behind it.

If you get a chance to listen, it is on right now. I will give a brief summary after I hear it as well as post any links this woman may have regarding the subject.

They already do have drugs out for certain ethnicity.

Like black people who have heart attacks are getting a new drug that is designed specifically for black people since the traditional drugs were not good enough for black people. Difference in anatomy and immune system or something.

This all started in clinical testing I think I heard, or might already be mainstream.

So if there was a mass assasination of everyone who was working on designer bio weapons to wipe out certain ethnicity, I dont think they did a very good job.

Maybe the people who are coming out with these drugs now were the one's who murdered the other people. Maybe it's all about the money. Good ole capitalism.

The other things like the people being assasinsated for testifying against the President or knowing blackmail against political figures is just scary. Makes me want to blow up the white house and the Capitol building since they are all murdering wacko's if this is all true. Or maybe foreign governments trying to dilute the American people's trust of our government by doing these things to spark conspiracy theories. Either way I guess alot of people alive today need to be put down for sanity's sake.

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This may be far fetched (though I doubt anything HERE is) but could it be that they have all been 'hired' to do some top secret project. The only way for this to remain completely top secret would be for their former identities to be 'disposed of'.
Just a thought.

I found this full list of dead microbiologists.

www.stevequayle.com...

The guy may be stretching, but most seem to have died in unusual circumstances.

It may be someone's getting ready to release a massive plague or virus and these people would have been on the fore front of developing vaccine or cure, or at least capable of identifying the source.

This is quite an interesting one that has even made the good quality papers in the UK a few years ago, and I've read a couple of articles in Forten Times on it.

The problem is nobody has ever found anything to really link the scientists together, other than they were microbiologists. Also if there was a plot against them to supress some "secret knowledge" they posess you would have thought that the scientists who were "murdered" more recently would have gone to the press after the first few were knocked off.

Someone needs to find a connection between them before it is anything more than a strange coincidence.

this is how a movie with a terror attack plot starts...

first, the experts are killed (or the ones who made "it")...

then,...

Perhaps if someone had access to some actuarial tables on deaths by occupation we could begin to get a handle on whether this is just a coincidence or a true anomaly.

It strikes me that to be a micro biologist is a fairly rare thing. I also think that the extremely violent way many of these people died is also a rare thing.

Does anyone know a micro biologist ? Perhaps a student could ask their professor if he has an opinion that could shed some light on the matter.

I really wonder what they think about this in scientific circles.

In any case the perpetrator of the anthrax attack is still out there and if people were to begin investigating this stuff they could very well run into an FBI agent that is doing the same thing.

There must be a link somewhere. At least with quite a few of these Microbiologists. I do not know of there individual workings with the government or military, but the things they study and research are not disclosed to the public for many reasons, including the fact that some have contracts with large companies in privately funded research. You wouldn't want the competition knowing what you were studying or how close you were to a breakthrough. In many of these cases I am more likely to believe it has some military or governmental tie to the deaths. I'm not sure what they were after.

Was it ethnic targeting, terrorism usage, bioweapons? I don't have these answers, but I would love to. Maybe we can see who most of these doctors had contracts with as a start.

Maybe they had refused to partake in a biological weapons program...
And someone needed to stop them from talking.

I would say they had some level of input whether observed and gave their opinions, or contributed in the creation of something(s).

Here's a site I found that has tons of information on bio weapons.

Its left wing, they do clearly have an agenda but the information speaks for itself really.


From the link:

But after (partially) unravelling the genetic sequence of the virus, the scientists went a step further and began bringing the Spanish flu back to life. Unnoticed by the public, they succeeded in creating a live virus containing two 1918 genes that proved to be very lethal in animal experiments. This experiment is only one genetic step away from taking the 1918 demon entirely out of the bottle.


www.sunshine-project.org...


There is also stuff on this site that talks about fungi being used in the drug war on Afghanistan and Columbia. Now if micro biologists are being whacked by drug thugs it may explain a thing or two. Again no hard evidence here but it seems to point in many interesting directions.

'Biological weapons are currently being tested to kill illicit crops of coca, opium poppy, and cannabis in forced crop eradication programs. These pathogenic fungi were developed principally by the US for use in narcotics-producing areas globally; but especially Asia and South America.'"

www.sunshine-project.org...

edit...posted in old thread.

[edit on 9-5-2005 by FastFwd]

[edit on 9-5-2005 by FastFwd]

I heard a radio program on this subject on coast to coast.

It basically said groups of biologists would make a spectacular breakthrough or failure in genetic experiments and one by one they would die in "accidents".

Kinda makes u wonder what breakthrough or disaster-genetically-would warrant this kind of response.

reply to post by noosnomrm


Immortality.

Originally posted by infinite8
I performed a search for threads listing all the deaths of microbiologists recently but did not see one. If there is one existing I apologize.

Below is a list of 11 of the worlds leading microbiologist that have died recently.
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1. Nov. 12, 2001: Benito Que was said to have been beaten in a Miami parking lot and died later.

2. Nov. 16, 2001: Don C. Wiley went missing. Was found Dec. 20. Investigators said he got dizzy on a Memphis bridge and fell to his death in a river.

3. Nov. 21, 2001: Vladimir Pasechnik, former high-level Russian microbiologist who defected in 1989 to the U.K. apparently died from a stroke.

4. Dec. 10, 2001: Robert M. Schwartz was stabbed to death in Leesberg, Va. Three Satanists have been arrested.

5. Dec. 14, 2001: Nguyen Van Set died in an airlock filled with nitrogen in his lab in Geelong, Australia.

6. Feb. 9, 2002: Victor Korshunov had his head bashed in near his home in Moscow.

7. Feb. 14, 2002: Ian Langford was found partially naked and wedged under a chair in Norwich, England.

8.and 9. Feb. 28, 2002: San Francisco resident Tanya Holzmayer was killed by a microbiologist colleague, Guyang Huang, who shot her as she took delivery of a pizza and then apparently shot himself.

10. March 24, 2002: David Wynn-Williams died in a road accident near his home in Cambridge, England.

11. March 25, 2002: Steven Mostow of the Colorado Health Sciences Centre, killed in a plane he was flying near Denver.

research by H.W.M.McKinlay
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Strange how it seems these things all together. Reminds me of the Star Wars Scientist Assassinations.

I think something is going on and I do not think its over. We have had anthrax scares, vaccination ramp ups. Almost like something is being planned and noone can know about it. Any help is appreciated on this.

Old thread this one.

There's been lots of scientist deaths since the last one on this list, they should be on ATS somewhere, and then there's this one in today's DM. www.dailymail.co.uk...

Scientist died after G-Wiz car imploded as she drove to child's school for parents' evening


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...

Someone should make a new list. Not that I'm agreeing they are all suspicious deaths but it does seem like a career filled with bad luck and tragic endings. Someone good at math should do a proper study and see what the statistics show.

But as in most stories of dead scientists there's usually a small piece of info that conspiracists might agree is unusual. In this story the lady phoned her husband from her car and said ‘I think I have made a mistake.’ Was she just talking about her driving? And then there's the witnesses to the car's implosion as "illogical".

We'll probably never know. RIP poor lady.