Still Think the World is Waking up to the Conspiracy?

a reply to: Salander

It was at that altitude for the last few seconds prior to impact. Only cameras pointed towards the helipad might have picked anything up. And then it depends on how the camera was set up to record. If it was set to record an image every few seconds it could easily have missed anything.

originally posted by: cardinalfan0596
a reply to: Salander

Oh? Then what airplanes hit the Towers?...that carried the personal effects of those people known to have boarded AA 11 and UA 175?

DamifIknow what airplanes struck. I didn't plan the operation.

Personal effects? Do you mean the personal effects of ONLY the hijackers, like a select passport? No personal effects of passengers, just the 'hijackers'?

I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night.

a reply to: Zaphod58

The cameras were covering sections of real estate sir, in all probability. Just as machine guns are placed with overlapping fields of fire (in the ideal defensive situation), so too would surveillance cameras (ideally) be placed with overlapping coverage.

Viewing real estate from a perch about 70 feet above the real estate, it would have easily recorded a 757 flying 5 feet off the ground.

a reply to: Salander

The biggest threat area to watch would have been parking lots and vehicle traffic areas, which means cameras would probably not be set to continuous recording, since vehicles don't move fast enough to get out of range of the cameras.

A camera not on continuous recording is going to miss a high speed aircraft that was in range of them for a second or two.

a reply to: Deveron

I know you probably wont watch it but this is pretty good forensic evidence for a 757 hitting the pentagon.


Please provide ANY forensic evidence for your side, no conjecture please.

a reply to: Salander. You really haven't researched it have you? There were a lot of personal effects found.

originally posted by: Salander

DamifIknow what airplanes struck.

Well then do some research.

The answers are out there

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: Zaphod58

The cameras were covering sections of real estate sir, in all probability.

Then show us the location of these cameras you claim exist.... funny how you are unable to do that!

originally posted by: Salander

Viewing real estate from a perch about 70 feet above the real estate, it would have easily recorded a 757 flying 5 feet off the ground.

How do you know that all cameras there were set to record in the first place?

More than likely, they weren't. This is a military installation. They would have guys watching monitors, and if there's anything suspicious going on, guys with guns would go check it out. Their aim is to PREVENT crap from going down.It's called being proactive. They aren't gonna let crap happen and then go check the cameras to see who did it so that they can arrest them.

That's what they do at gas stations. A guy robs a gas station and cameras are used to see who it was so that the police can go get them. So in THIS case, yeah, they will be recording non stop. See, once again, this is a truther using his "common sense" about security cameras and how they record or not. Sorry, but your "common sense" is faulty. You failed to educate yourself before you came to a conclusion about any tapes at the Pentagon.

Don't you truthers know anything at all?

a reply to: lexyghot

This is a military installation. They would have guys watching monitors, and if there's anything suspicious going on, guys with guns would go check it out.

Security for the Pentagon was not the job of military personnel.
They used a paid security company.
Little more than renta cops.

Back in the day not all cameras were recorded.
In those olden days all they had were VCRs for recording so not every camera could have one.

a reply to: cardinalfan0596

Yes, I have researched it.

Clearly, I ask more difficult questions that you. That is, you accept any silly answer without considering the implications of that "answer". Or at least so it appears.

You accept, I suppose, the cell phone calls that were impossible. You accept them at face value, even though anybody familiar at the time with the design and practical limitations of the cell phone system knew that cell phones don't work in airplanes many thousands of feet in the air and going so fast that the ground units of the cell system could not possibly make "hand shake" communications.

But gullible subjects are necessary for an outlandish story like yours to be believed.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Salander

The biggest threat area to watch would have been parking lots and vehicle traffic areas, which means cameras would probably not be set to continuous recording, since vehicles don't move fast enough to get out of range of the cameras.

A camera not on continuous recording is going to miss a high speed aircraft that was in range of them for a second or two.

Pretty darn weak, Z.

a reply to: lexyghot

Put your money where your mouth is--how do YOU know exactly how the cameras were set up?

You don't, and we both know it.

Your entire argument is based upon "maybe this" or "maybe that", when all the facts work against you.

a reply to: Salander

Yes because they're going to mount cameras looking at every square inch of ground around the Pentagon. I mean just look at the building and you can see cameras mounted on cameras looking everywhere. And they bought a few thousand VCRs to record every camera that records every second of every day.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Yes, and they just could not find any footage of that "757" streaking across the front lawn besides the parking lot video.

ROFLMAO

a reply to: Salander

That was called "sarcasm". You can clearly see the cameras on the building and there aren't that many. Certainly not enough to cover all the area around the building.

So how'd they get the 757 debris in place without anyone noticing? Load it into the missile they supposedly used?

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: lexyghot

Put your money where your mouth is--how do YOU know exactly how the cameras were set up?

How about you putting your money where your mouth is - how do you know where the cameras were and how they were set up,,,, you like to make claims, but like all truthers are unable to back those claims up!

a reply to: Salander


No, I have researched the facts that say only TWO cellphone calls were made from Flight 93, and allBOTH of those were made at a time where the airliner was less than 5,000 feet AND in the vicinity of cell towers that were 1. on ridgelines and well within a couple thousand feet of the airliner and 2. were RURAL towers which have a much farther range than urban towers. Both calls cut off when the airliner ascended. Every other call, was made from a seatback Airfone.

Flight 77, every successful call, came from an Airfone.

Aerial view of pentagon with Known camera positions marked:



Green dot: Doubletree Hotel , Fixed camera, Video has been released.

Yellow dot: DEA HQ . Pan and tilt camera, Video has been released.

Blue dot: Citgo gas, Fixed cameras, Video has been released.

Purple dots: Pentagon gate cameras, Fixed cameras, Videos has been released.

Red dots: pentagon roof cameras, Pan and tilt, No video, Unknown if cameras were recording.

Orange dot: DOT traffic camera, Pan and tilt, No video, DOT said camera was not working.

originally posted by: waypastvne
Aerial view of pentagon with Known camera positions marked:

Green dot: Doubletree Hotel , Fixed camera, Video has been released.

Yellow dot: DEA HQ . Pan and tilt camera, Video has been released.

Blue dot: Citgo gas, Fixed cameras, Video has been released.

Purple dots: Pentagon gate cameras, Fixed cameras, Videos has been released.

Red dots: pentagon roof cameras, Pan and tilt, No video, Unknown if cameras were recording.

Orange dot: DOT traffic camera, Pan and tilt, No video, DOT said camera was not working.

And not one caught an airplane hitting the Pentagon!! NOT ONE!!