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originally posted by: johndeere2020
John 21:7
Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord. Now when Simon Peter heard that it was the Lord, he girt his fisher's coat unto him, (for he was naked,) and did cast himself into the sea.
What was Peter's business being naked in the cold of the morning probably in front of a young boy - John the Beloved Disciple.
John the Beloved was the last one of them to die and by far so he could have been just a boy at that time. (And when they paid taxes, only Jesus and Peter paid them so only two of them are adults and the rest of the disciples are probably too young too pay their taxes)
...And Jesus appearing at that moment. Did Jesus tried to interrupt something?? And why Jesus asked Peter 3x if he loved HIm (more than his work of fishing)?
Sounds fishy to me....
P.S. I feel like having made this post several times already like in a time loop or something. I think something is trying to stop me. Sorry for the geeky talk but this really feel like deja vu.
originally posted by: johndeere2020
And why Jesus asked Peter 3x if he loved HIm (more than his work of fishing)?
Finally, after the resurrection, Jesus appeared to his disciples and asked Peter three times, "Do you love me?" (John 21:15-17). In repentance for his threefold denial, Peter gave a threefold affirmation of love. Then Christ, the Good Shepherd (John 10:11, 14), gave Peter the authority he earlier had promised: "Feed my sheep" (John 21:17). This specifically included the other apostles, since Jesus asked Peter, "Do you love me more than these?" (John 21:15), the word "these" referring to the other apostles who were present (John 21:2). Thus was completed the prediction made just before Jesus and his followers went for the last time to the Mount of Olives.
Immediately before his denials were predicted, Peter was told, "Simon, Simon, behold, Satan demanded to have you, that he might sift you like wheat, but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail; and when you have turned again [after the denials], strengthen your brethren" (Luke 22:31-32). It was Peter who Christ prayed would have faith that would not fail and that would be a guide for the others; and his prayer, being perfectly efficacious, was sure to be fulfilled.
What was Peter's business being naked in the cold of the morning probably in front of a young boy - John the Beloved Disciple.
( John 21:8 ), not meaning therefore to swim, but to get sooner to Jesus than in the full boat which they could hardly draw to shore.
8. the other disciples came in a little ship--by ship.
R. Brown’s suggestion seems much more probable here: the verb used, διαζώννυμι, does not necessarily mean putting clothing on, but rather tying the clothing around oneself (the same verb is used in 13:4-5 of Jesus tying the towel around himself). The statement that Peter was naked (ἦν γὰρ γυμνός) could just as well mean that he was naked underneath the outer garment (τὸν ἐπενδύτην), and thus could not take it off before jumping into the water. But he did pause to tuck it up and tie it with the girdle before jumping in, to allow himself more freedom of movement. Thus the clause that states Peter was naked is explanatory (note the use of γάρ), explaining why Peter girded up his outer garment (τὸν ἐπενδύτην) rather than taking it off: he had nothing on underneath.
originally posted by: deadeyedick
If true and considering that John was not a boy then it would not be the act that was being stopped but who was doing the act that would pose the danger.
originally posted by: johndeere2020
Why would John be called "Beloved"?
Why was he the favorite of Jesus? (And Mary Magdalene also)
Why did Jesus gave John a mother in John 21?
Why did John died last?
John is a child. An effeminate, pleasant mannered, cuddly, good looking child or a young boy. That is what I have deduced based on my knowledge of God's Words. The other disciples would have lusted after him.
Jesus did not entrust John to Mary Magdalene probably because she is too irresponsible or too child like to be a mother.
originally posted by: FlyersFan
Read the gospel of John and Revelations. John was the mystic of the group.
The mystics are 'closer' to God than others. His spiritual love was more pure.
That's why he was 'beloved'. It's spiritual .. not homosexual.
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Peter, John and James were Jesus favorites.
originally posted by: johndeere2020
Peter and James thought they should start a religion like Paul.