Armed intruder threatens staff, students at Sydney Islamic school

a reply to: Kryties
No one escaped from execution in Saudi Arabia, Iran .....

a reply to: thesaneone

ISIS is a prime example of a group of disbelievers waging war against Islam...
Which is why every Muslim I know, and 5 Arab nations in Obama's coalition want them turned to dust, soon!


Zionism as well pal... For similar reasons!

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

I'm sure if the cops in London read your thread on ATS and then read your headline, you'd be singing a different toon.

"Sits In Buckingham Palace Drinking Blood In A Chalice!!!" - Doesn't sound to0 friendly to me.

Still grasping at those straws eh?

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: OptimusCrime

The 72 virgins bull#....

Oh so you're one of them ones...


You're definitely full of # and a waste of ATS memory!!!

Also, if you want to bring computer into this, we can. ATS memory? Are you even serious? I'm sure they use servers that are capable to handle enough information that it would take a 100 years for us to fill it with plain text. Just stop. Your anger is getting the best of you. It is funny to me though.

Back on point with more quotes you've asked me to supply:

Quran 4:34:

"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

A Muslim woman is the property of her husband. A Muslim husband has the legal right and religious obligation to beat a wife if she disobeys him, is disloyal to him or simply does not please him. The concept of wife abuse does not exist in Islam. There is no concept of martial rape. A Muslim woman cannot refuse sex with her husband. According to Islamic law, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons:

She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (i.e. "let's herself go")

She refuses to meet his sexual demands

She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason"

She neglects her religious duties

Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce. These are evil affronts to the idea of equality and dignity of women – very evil teachings, indeed.

originally posted by: xavi1000
a reply to: Kryties
No one escaped from execution in Saudi Arabia, Iran .....

Except those that did and lived to tell the story to the world......

Try reading the daily news mate, you would have saved yourself from looking even more like a bigot.

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: thesaneone

Don't get upset remember your religion is a peaceful one.

Yes, except for a small minority of idiots who take the Quoran out of context and NOT the entire Muslim populace.

Thanks for confirming that

And that same minority has made too big of a negative impact and the majority is a bunch of cowards for not standing up against those in the minority and for that they are just as much at fault for that negativity of this cult/religion.

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

Also, if you want to bring computer into this, we can. ATS memory? Are you even serious? I'm sure they use servers that are capable to handle enough information that it would take a 100 years for us to fill it with plain text. Just stop. Your anger is getting the best of you. It is funny to me though.

Way to take his comment and twist it to your own ridiculous tune. That is not what he meant and you know it, you are simply using ANY excuse you can to show off your bigoted attitude towards 1.6 billion Muslims.

a reply to: OptimusCrime

Sexual abuse of children?

How the hell did they get that from a verse about divorce...
The point of that verse is that a woman should wait 3 months to re-marry...
It has nothing to do with menstruation as they're implying...
Period has more than one definition!

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

I'm sure if the cops in London read your thread on ATS and then read your headline, you'd be singing a different toon.

"Sits In Buckingham Palace Drinking Blood In A Chalice!!!" - Doesn't sound to0 friendly to me.

Still grasping at those straws eh?

You forgot to quote the rest of the post. But i'll add this post with more from the book:

Quran 8:41

"And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah, - and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer, - if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing, - the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things."

This verse was revealed about how the booty captured in wars – such as after attacking and mass-slaughtering the Jews of Banu Quraiza – would be distributed. And most horribly the Islamic Allah Himself claims a share of the booty along with His prophet. God is the Creator of everything in the Universe. When that God encourages some people to attack and mass-murder others, so He Himself can take a share from the wealth captured from those murder people – no evil can get higher than this.

originally posted by: thesaneone

And that same minority has made too big of a negative impact and the majority is a bunch of cowards for not standing up against those in the minority and for that they are just as much at fault for that negativity of this cult/religion.

You seem to be conveniently forgetting the 5 Arab/Muslim nations who have joined the coalition to fight the terrorists, and the countless Muslims stuck in ISIS territory who are forming resistance groups to fight back.

I guess those FACTS don't jive with your bigotry though do they?

a reply to: Kryties

Go in Saudi Arabia , Iran , Qatar and live like a free man .Dress some t- shirt with funny cartoon from Mohamed.

originally posted by: OptimusCrime

You forgot to quote the rest of the post. But i'll add this post with more from the book:

No I didn't, I just didn't find it necessary to requote a verse from the Qur'an that you have taken completely out of context.

originally posted by: xavi1000
a reply to: Kryties

Go in Saudi Arabia , Iran , Qatar and live like a free man

.Dress some t- shirt with funny cartoon from Mohamed.

Yes, because all 1.6 billion Muslims live in those 3 countries.

/sarcasm

a reply to: OptimusCrime

You should download the Quran Explorer application and read the true words, because they're being changed in your "credible" websites version...

Maintainers is actually caretakers, or guardians...
Fear desertion? No it's just fear them, as in agressive women, spousal abuse is prohibited!
Only in self defence is it acceptable!



I feel you'd like to learn, but you keep believing the wrong sources.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: UnBreakable

Qur’an:9:5 - “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Do you know what a disbeliever is?



Before you answer, it's not an Atheist, or Jew, or Christian...

Or any other belief system...



A disbeliever is someone who wages war against Islam...

In which case yes you wage war expect blood to spill!!!

It is called Jihad...



Nobody waged war against IS...

So it's not Jihad...







If it's not in the Quran it's not of Islam, which is why I ask for scripture and not media or openly Islamophobic websites!



Hopefully you understand what a disbeliever is now, and you are not one, so you're in no danger with Muslims...

Hmmm. You doth protest too much. First off, I gave you a direct verse from the Quran. Secondly, the Muslim definition of a disbeliever (Kafir) doesn't say anything about waging war against Islam, as you proclaim, but one who rejects the Islamic version of God or rejects the "Islamic version of truth". I'm still waiting for you to "reeducate me.

Kafir (Arabic: كافر‎ kāfir, plural كفّار kuffār) is an Arabic provocative slur used in an Islamic doctrinal sense, usually translated as "unbeliever," "disbeliever," or "infidel." The term refers to a person who rejects God in Islam or who hides, denies, or covers the "Islamic version of truth." The practise of declaring another Muslim as a kafir is takfir. The term is considered offensive[citation needed] by non-Muslims
en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: xavi1000
a reply to: Kryties

Go in Saudi Arabia , Iran , Qatar and live like a free man

.Dress some t- shirt with funny cartoon from Mohamed.

Yes, because all 1.6 billion Muslims live in those 3 countries.

/sarcasm

Indonesia , Pakistan, Sudan, Egypt , Maroko .....

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: OptimusCrime

I feel you'd like to learn, but you keep believing the wrong sources.

He has no interest in learning, he's deliberately cherrypicking verses out-of-context then claiming they support his bigoted view.

originally posted by: xavi1000

Indonesia , Pakistan, Sudan, Egypt , Maroko .....

You're going to have to provide proof that all of those countries allow the things you claim, individually if you please so I can look carefully at each source and refute if necessary.

originally posted by: Kryties

originally posted by: xavi1000


What bigotry , this is real life.They want you dead or converted.

Please read the whole thread then realise that we are discussing bigots who insist on paint all 1.6 billion Muslims with the same dirty brush.

Stop talking bollocks mate you're the one that quoted 1.6billion mudslims no one else.

And if you want to know something yes i do believe you are a muslim.

Im really glad that you started this thread because i think i will turn myself into a bigot/racist and every muslim i meet will be dealt a blow to the face off my forehead,I have woken up and seen the light,and its thanks to you.

You sir are a liar and a defender of terrorism you call people a bigot because they view there lives differently to you.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: OptimusCrime

Sexual abuse of children?

How the hell did they get that from a verse about divorce...
The point of that verse is that a woman should wait 3 months to re-marry...
It has nothing to do with menstruation as they're implying...
Period has more than one definition!

I'm not digging through any more scriptures for you after this.

Age of Aisha at time of marriage with Holy Prophet Muhammad

It is believed on the authority of some Hadith reports that the marriage ceremony (known as nikah, amounting to betrothal) of Aisha with the Holy Prophet Muhammad took place when she was six years of age, and that she joined the Holy Prophet as his wife three years later at the age of nine. We quote below from two such reports in Bukhari.

“It is reported from Aisha that she said: The Prophet entered into marriage with me when I was a girl of six … and at the time [of joining his household] I was a girl of nine years of age.”

“Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed [alone] for two years or so. He married Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consummated that marriage when she was nine years old.” [3]

As to the authenticity of these reports, it may be noted that the compilers of the books of Hadith did not apply the same stringent tests when accepting reports relating to historical matters as they did before accepting reports relating to the practical teachings and laws of Islam. The reason is that the former type of report was regarded as merely of academic interest while the latter type of report had a direct bearing on the practical duties of a Muslim and on what was allowed to them and what was prohibited. Thus the occurrence of reports such as the above about the marriage of Aisha in books of Hadith, even in Bukhari, is not necessarily a proof of their credibility.

It even goes on to say she was probably 10.

This shows that Aisha must have been about ten years at the time of her betrothal to the Prophet, and not six years as she is generally supposed to be

They're trying their best, on this site, to make it look like the written word is false. Probably to appease the non-believers. But, the quote you're talking about is proven true via this source.