Intriguing Petroglyphs - Easter Island Statue

originally posted by: skybolt18
Here's my question regarding the Maui statues. Were all of them constructed to include a base with the hand sign near the navel area? What I mean is that if some of the Maui statues currently buried by many feet are super old, would the more recent ones (constructed within the past 1,500 years or so) have the same amount of detail, or would they only include the head portion since the rest of the body was already buried? I remember reading somewhere that some of the statues were constructed at a later time, but was wondering if there were any differences in the construction technique or size.

At present it is thought the Polynesian arrived around 1200 AD. You can see the work of UH professor Hunt for more details on this.

I don't know someone somewhere may have noted down this finger detail. I would suggest looking at Dr Georgia Lee work.

At best guess the Moai building phase lasted several hundred years and then was abandoned. One can see half-finished Moai at Rano Raraku with the pounding stones left in place.

originally posted by: Logarock

Any known figures on rates at which these statues sank or are sinking?

Another thought on that. Assuming that is the western ship that visited you can take the first date for that and compare it to the erosion rate that has surrounded the statue. Assuming also that the statue was not covered at the time the ship was carved (and not uncovered for that purpose).

originally posted by: Thiaoouba Prophecy

originally posted by: pot8er
Amazing .

I wonder if the statues were buried torso down to preserve the messages on their backs ? The people of easter island surely saw wind / weather erosion of glyphs / exposed carvings etc over time ? Genius if it was intentional.

The giant gaseous belts underneath the continent of Mu in the Pacific and Atlantis in the Atlantic cracked and ate the entire continents in a matter of a few hours. The oceans boiled and tsunamis wiped out most of civilization in other parts of the world. This deluge according to Abuction to the 9th planet caused such an upheaval of the land that it created the Andes mountain range in just a few weeks. That's why the former Oceanside town of Tiwanaku are up so high in elevation when prior they were harbor towns.

This deluge of course buried these anciant Easter Island Heads.

What a load of crap. Just saying.

originally posted by: jaffo

originally posted by: Thiaoouba Prophecy

originally posted by: pot8er
Amazing .

I wonder if the statues were buried torso down to preserve the messages on their backs ? The people of easter island surely saw wind / weather erosion of glyphs / exposed carvings etc over time ? Genius if it was intentional.

The giant gaseous belts underneath the continent of Mu in the Pacific and Atlantis in the Atlantic cracked and ate the entire continents in a matter of a few hours. The oceans boiled and tsunamis wiped out most of civilization in other parts of the world. This deluge according to Abuction to the 9th planet caused such an upheaval of the land that it created the Andes mountain range in just a few weeks. That's why the former Oceanside town of Tiwanaku are up so high in elevation when prior they were harbor towns.

This deluge of course buried these anciant Easter Island Heads.

What a load of crap. Just saying.

Jaffo since you have a strong opinion on the matter would you like to start a thread of looking at the claims of TP? Our TP seem very reluctant to start one on this subject.

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: skybolt18
Here's my question regarding the Maui statues. Were all of them constructed to include a base with the hand sign near the navel area? What I mean is that if some of the Maui statues currently buried by many feet are super old, would the more recent ones (constructed within the past 1,500 years or so) have the same amount of detail, or would they only include the head portion since the rest of the body was already buried? I remember reading somewhere that some of the statues were constructed at a later time, but was wondering if there were any differences in the construction technique or size.

At present it is thought the Polynesian arrived around 1200 AD. You can see the work of UH professor Hunt for more details on this.

I don't know someone somewhere may have noted down this finger detail. I would suggest looking at Dr Georgia Lee work.

At best guess the Moai building phase lasted several hundred years and then was abandoned. One can see half-finished Moai at Rano Raraku with the pounding stones left in place.

Thanks for the reply and reference. I guess the next question would be if some of the unfinished Moai statues also had the base included or just the upper torso and head portions. If all of the statues (including the unfinished ones) have the base and the hand signs, then we can assume they were all constructed around the same time. However, if for instance, the ones located along the outer perimeter of the island are 30 ft long with the lower body completely buried or settled, while the rest are shorter and only consist of the upper body portion, then it could suggest a vast difference between the 2 construction dates. What I mean is that if 800 years ago these statues were already buried up to the shoulder and the Polynesians mimicked what they saw in their construction by just constructing the head, then the original Moai could be much much older.

originally posted by: skybolt18

Thanks for the reply and reference. I guess the next question would be if some of the unfinished Moai statues also had the base included or just the upper torso and head portions. If all of the statues (including the unfinished ones) have the base and the hand signs, then we can assume they were all constructed around the same time.

The ones of the islands coast all point outwards but those on one ahu. All those moai are set on ahu (stone platforms). As far as I know the only ones that were buried were those placed at the bottom of the quarry and they were covered by natural erosion.

Some hold this is the oldest moai, because it is old, eroded and small and of a different design:

Older moai (by stylistic analysis)

Here is a link to the C-14 dating at RN, by Hunt

Sedimentary study from the lake

If someone was on RN before the Polynesians they didn't set fires, use stone tools, cut vegetation, conduct agriculture, use pottery or bury anyone..

a reply to: SLAYER69

it reminds me somewhat of Göbekli Tepe in that view

If as some have proposed that parts were buried or remain buried and that overburden covers notable items, like roads or ? Just where did this dirt overburden come from ? There would be very little growth and death and decomposition of organic elements or plants to contribute to any soil depth? If they destroyed their civilization by denuding the island, that was likely due in part, or possibly exclusively because of the statue building efforts.

a reply to: SLAYER69

I know there was an image posted here before that showed a 'Sailing Ship' which was carved on the back of one statue sometime after the inhabitants were first contacted by European sailors. This however appears to be from a much earlier period before that contact period.

The image below shows the monsoon winds in relation to Easter Island. It is interesting that in the image the canoe like structure called vaka means sailing.




Interesting stuff

leolady

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: Logarock

Any known figures on rates at which these statues sank or are sinking?

Another thought on that. Assuming that is the western ship that visited you can take the first date for that and compare it to the erosion rate that has surrounded the statue. Assuming also that the statue was not covered at the time the ship was carved (and not uncovered for that purpose).

That's just a lot of erosion!

Yea assuming this ship glyph is recording the first known arrival.

Looks like graffiti. Looks like a square sail Chines ship. Doesn't mean that it is a depiction of same.

a reply to: SLAYER69


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originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Hanslune

originally posted by: Logarock

Any known figures on rates at which these statues sank or are sinking?

Another thought on that. Assuming that is the western ship that visited you can take the first date for that and compare it to the erosion rate that has surrounded the statue. Assuming also that the statue was not covered at the time the ship was carved (and not uncovered for that purpose).

That's just a lot of erosion!

Yea assuming this ship glyph is recording the first known arrival.

Looks like graffiti. Looks like a square sail Chines ship. Doesn't mean that it is a depiction of same.

Since there is no evidence of the Chinese in that area nor the RN mentioning to the later explorers about them. It could equally be a more archaic Portuguese or Spanish ship from the 16th century.

a reply to: Hanslune

Right. The only reason I even mentioned it is that the Chines used square sails and three masts going way back.

Seems to me one would need to demonstrate erosion on the scale demonstrated by the covering of the glyph. The ground cover currently isn't very conducive to erosion.

originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Hanslune

Right. The only reason I even mentioned it is that the Chines used square sails and three masts going way back.

Seems to me one would need to demonstrate erosion on the scale demonstrated by the covering of the glyph. The ground cover currently isn't very conducive to erosion.

I guess you haven't been on RN when it rains then. It comes off the volcanic hills and is quite muddy, there are no true streams or rivers the water just goes for the sea. It's quite impressive. So how would you account for the moai at the lower reaches of the Rano Raraku being buried by soil and those by the coast not?

originally posted by: Plotus
If as some have proposed that parts were buried or remain buried and that overburden covers notable items, like roads or ? Just where did this dirt overburden come from ? There would be very little growth and death and decomposition of organic elements or plants to contribute to any soil depth? If they destroyed their civilization by denuding the island, that was likely due in part, or possibly exclusively because of the statue building efforts.

a reply to: Hanslune


A lot of this really looks like earthquake soil liquidation.




This pick below demonstrates that not enough top soil could have come from above these statues to account of the depth. Also consider that these top out cropping's have always been exposed seeing they are volcanic.

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originally posted by: Logarock
a reply to: Hanslune


A lot of this really looks like earthquake soil liquidation.

That is certainly possible but I believe that happens only to only certain types of soil. So I'm not sure if it would apply to RN.

This pick below demonstrates that not enough top soil could have come from above these statues to account of the depth. Also consider that these top out cropping's have always been exposed seeing they are volcanic.

I would agree there isn't much soil left on the top ridges of RR I suspect much of it has run down in past centuries. Sediment counts show that the area was heavily forested prior to man and lost in progressive after 1200 AD, once that happened the erosion began. If we take the ship carving as being done in the early 18th century then part of that statue was already buried.

Thanks for the info Slayer,great presentation as well by the way..

All these petroglyphs seem to point to a world wide culture and single language and are consistent to other locales around the world.

Here is a postulation on my part regarding Easter Island and the statues;It seems they were buried (naturally) in mud or earth whatever..I say this island could be the leftovers of Lemuria/Mu and that these islands are, what once were the peaks of a continent;and as is evident, there were cyclical cataclysms (planet x) that effected tectonic plates to the point of them dissappering under the waves;this is so clear once you look into the area of submerged cities.

This is the same scenario as the Azores,which again seem to be, what once was the highest peaks of Atlantis and are now only islands.

I love this kind of thing, nice thread!!

Edit;i really believe that this "ancient advanced civilization" was clearly spread globally,taking into account all the usual suspects from Mayans,Aztecs,Egyptians,Sumeriens..well everywhere,you get my drift..the founders/controllers,were none other than the Annunaki,Elohim or many of their other personas that they were known by..each time 'the' cataclysm came, society started a fresh,and again each time there was a new 'blueprint' for that society..these individuals are still here in control and just play the mystery card when it comes to subjects like this;it seems clearer by the day, of what did and does still occur and who is at the helm of our issues here on Earth.

originally posted by: Buddyman
Thanks for the info Slayer,great presentation as well by the way..

All these petroglyphs seem to point to a world wide culture and single language and are consistent to other locales around the world.

Hows that? The evidence points to the RN being late to the game.

Here is a postulation on my part regarding Easter Island and the statues;It seems they were buried (naturally) in mud or earth whatever..I say this island could be the leftovers of Lemuria/Mu and that these islands are, what once were the peaks of a continent;and as is evident, there were cyclical cataclysms (planet x) that effected tectonic plates to the point of them dissappering under the waves;this is so clear once you look into the area of submerged cities.

An interesting speculation but it doesn't take into account the actual evidence we have.

Edit;i really believe that this "ancient advanced civilization" was clearly spread globally,taking into account all the usual suspects from Mayans,Aztecs,Egyptians,Sumeriens..well everywhere,you get my drift..the founders/controllers,were none other than the Annunaki,Elohim or many of their other personas that they were known by..each time 'the' cataclysm came, society started a fresh,and again each time there was a new 'blueprint' for that society..these individuals are still here in control and just play the mystery card when it comes to subjects like this;it seems clearer by the day, of what did and does still occur and who is at the helm of our issues here on Earth.

Then why did this global civilization not leave evidence? If one looks at any of the well known early civilizations - then leave tens of millions of pieces of evidence and tens of thousands of sites and hundreds of cities. While the AAC left no such thing. Odd eh?

So how did they keep control in say 1,200 BC?