Sulaiman Abu Ghaith sentenced to life in prison (Osama Bin Laden's son-in-law)

Life in prison where he will produce more radicals through his words to be freed at some future date to spread their hate..

Osama Bin Laden's son-in-law, who was an al-Qaeda spokesman after 9/11, has been sentenced to life in prison for terrorism-related charges at a trial in New York.

Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, 48, is the highest-ranking al-Qaeda figure to face trial on US soil since the attacks.

The Kuwaiti clergyman was captured in Jordan last year and brought to the US.

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He did take the stand for his own defense and according to his testimony he is but a preacher/cleric

Prosecutors also allege that he agreed to appear in the group's propaganda videos after 11 September 2001 to call for further violence "while our buildings still burned".

The Kuwaiti preacher testified on Wednesday that those videos were based on "quotes and points by Sheikh Osama" and were intended to be religious sermons, encouraging Muslims to fight oppression.

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originally posted by: 727Sky
Life in prison where he will produce more radicals through his words to be freed at some future date to spread their hate..

Probably better than martyring him and creating instant followers to his cause.

Thanks for the news, I had not seen this one.

Kind of like I always think, People don't just get out of bed in the morning and blow themselves and others up if they are not oppressed. You would seriously have to be pushed into that by influences which would destroy your ability to have a home, wife and children you wanted a future for.

Is it too much to ask to learn about the true motives of islam before making ill informed judgements?
www.qi-book.com as good a place as any to start! everything referenced straight from koran, sunnah and hadith.
LEARN! It may just save your life.

originally posted by: lestweforget
Is it too much to ask to learn about the true motives of islam before making ill informed judgements?
www.qi-book.com as good a place as any to start! everything referenced straight from koran, sunnah and hadith.
LEARN! It may just save your life.

The true motives of Islam.. If you profess to know the true motives of all the sects of Islam you are deluded.. We have had at least 5000 innocents killed in the last 10 years in the country I presently live in.. Teachers, monks, nurses, market goers.. Maybe some of the glorious sects of Islam should read and interpret the Koran as those who swear it is a religion of peace... even though history says it is anything but.

So, essentially, he get life in a US prison for talking in another country.

originally posted by: 727Sky

... even though history says it is anything but.

The same could be said of Christianity mate, remember the Crusades?

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Yes! The true motives of islam. One does not need to know trivial differences in islamic sects such as which caliph or what mahdi or prophet, wine or no wine, hell or no hell. They all want sharia!
Obviously it is only the Sunni that is of concern with regards to the atrocities you mention. I pray that you are safe! One can only imagine.
I must have come off as a muslim or an islamic sympathiser in my previous post, my bad i should of been more specific. The website for the book i quoted reveals the most damning hypocrisies and contradictions within the koran to the point where it makes muslims look like fools! Good read!
Peace.

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Hey Krytes, your profile states your in Aus, i dont know what school you went to or what backward curriculum was taught there but the crusades were a necessary response by christians to the expansionism of islam attempting to fulfill the requirements of their caliphate. We are now experiencing a renewed effort.

originally posted by: lestweforget

Hey Krytes, your profile states your in Aus, i dont know what school you went to or what backward curriculum was taught there

Wow, just wow.

but the crusades were a necessary response by christians to the expansionism of islam attempting to fulfill the requirements of their caliphate. We are now experiencing a renewed effort.

Source? Methinks it is YOU who were taught the wrong history mate, your "analysis" of the reason for the Crusades is so far off base you'll need a map to find it.

you mean he didn't get off?
I mean where's his religious rights?

Abu Ghaith argued his role was a purely religious one, aimed at encouraging all Muslims to rise up against their oppressors.

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he was just practicing his religion wasn't he??
oh you mean that christians should have their religious rights protected but not off the wall muslims bent on destroying you??

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Thanks for the clarification; the book looks interesting especially for someone who wants to learn. I am just about learned out on the subject and have very little tolerance for the apologist.. Words or good high sounding philosophical discussions might temper others judgements... Bombs and bullets have tempered mine.... it's a personal thing and I make no apology..... any religion that treats non believers as infidels to be slaughtered or women as chattel to be whipped by some religious police if she sits down and accidentally shows the calf of her leg is not something that holds anything for me but scorn and disgust.

I spent a year in Saudi as one of the places I have been lucky enough to live and work in my life. My opinion of their version of Islam was pretty low by the time I left.. As was the opinion of any other Yank, Brit, Aussie, South African, Irish, Scott that I met. Everyone was glad to leave when their contracts were up; maybe some exceptions but I never met any..

One of my very close friends retired from Saudi Arabian Airlines as a Captain; he was married and lived in a Saudi compound for the Expat crews ... They changed the rules on the retirements a couple of times and by the end, his retirement it was about 1/3 of what he and others had been promised initially... who you gonna complain to ... good luck with that...

There are some great people in Saudi and some I would consider educated in more than just religious dogma; but everyone toes the line for fear of the religious police unless you have your own princely compound.

When they leave country it is a totally different story in many cases or on their private jets... there are good times to be had with wine women and song; just ask anyone who worked Saudi Special flights ... Hippocrates is an understatement IMO.. That is fine with me, their life their religion.. Just don't tell me to convert or die... Then we have a real problem that will be resolved with blood shed (probably mine).

Some of the truly innocents around here (way down south they want their own laws and Muslim provinces) that have been killed by the roadside bomb trick or bomb in the market square not to mention the drive by shootings which will harden your heart .... Funny; guns are mostly illegal except for police and military as are bombs... But the Muslim Separatist seem to have no problem getting supplied with the arms of their trade... guns, bombs, bullets..

Others will say what about the Christians and their Crusades or the Catholic inquisition... Yes that all happened.... a long time ago... While TODAY, NOT IN TIMES GONE PAST, it is the so called radicals of Islam doing the headline killings from Africa, China , S.E. Asia to the Mid-east.... which does not even really count the honor killings or the young brides who have not reached puberty by their wedding night. Muhammad and Aisha his 9 year old wife lead the way for many.. The apologist will say she had reached puberty which made her an adult and others will point to 33-year-old King..... John of England married 12-year-old named Isabella of Angoulême..Mohammad was in his 50s and Aisha was 9 when the wedding was consummated.. The difference is that was then and this is now.. Are there still weddings of 12 and 14 year old girls going on in this world... No doubt... it was even going on when I was growing up.. I think 14 was the magic number with parents consent ? Either way not my problem unless it is my son or daughter..

Just like the Crusades and anything else that was done long ago in the name of religion.. We live in this year not in times gone past.

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ISLAMABAD: A Pakistani policeman shot two men in jail on Thursday, killing one accused of blasphemy and wounding another condemned to death on the same charge, lawyers and an activist said.
Bhatti, who worked to protect the human rights of the country's beleaguered Christian minority, was on trial after an Islamic leader accused him in 2012 of sending text messages derogatory to the Prophet Mohammed's mother.

His family say police investigations show the phone was registered to someone else.

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Justice denied: 12-year-old rape victim and mother set themselves on fire
tribune.com.pk...

MULTAN:
A 12-year-old rape victim and her mother were saved by journalists and civil society activists on Wednesday after they set themselves on fire at Multan Press Club.

The girl, Samina*, had been protesting with her family including her mother in front of the Multan Press Club. She said she was raped by an 18-year-old son of a land lord on September 18. She said she had registered an FIR against him but the police took no action.

Money and power to many times talks and walks regardless of the country or religion.... we can probably all agree on that.. However in most civilized countries a 12 year old getting raped would bring the press and the legal system into action.
At least she wasn't stoned for letting herself be raped or otherwise killed by a family member as some evidently believe their honor calls for..