The majority of Muslims are scared of being tarred with the same brush:

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs


Hardly a peep surely, if you listen to Fox News!!!

There is a billion of you. Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that if even 10% of your kind was sufficiently pissed enough to make a scene about this that Fox news could hide it?

a reply to: WeRpeons
Truth and reality will eventually kill any religion that ignores truth and reality. Catholics must adapt to reality, stop hiding truth and reality and change the religion to adapt to truth to survive. Humans be coming to intelligent to keep following ancient scripts blindly.

a reply to: Lipton

Have you seen the protests on Fox?

If so I'll retract my statement, otherwise don't waste my time!

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Like what happened in Germany last week? Fox News: Muslims in Germany protest against extremist Islamic State group

Fair enough, I'll eat my words!!!
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Thanks for sharing!
a reply to: Lipton

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: BasementWarriorKryptonite

ANd yet hardly a peep from the arab or muslim world.

Except the 5 Arab nations that are part of Obama's coalition...


And all the Muslim Imams that have come out to condemn IS...
Again...
& Again...

& The Protests in London...

And Germany...

Or Canada, France, Sweden, Denmark, Australia & the US...

Well done! Disrupting traffic and everyone else's lives in places where everyone already knows what's going on!

"Let's protest! Surely that won't upset other people and cause further tensions! That'll really show IS!"

Good grief. I want to see and hear the actual arab and muslim world go insane in their own countries - not everyone else's.

There's not much use in some idiotic 'protest' in London or Sydney. I suppose if it were a demonstration and wasn't intended to - and didn't - disrupt every day life, that might be a start, but even still...

Let them protest in Mecca. Let's see them pour out onto the streets of Kuala Lumpur, Manama, Dubai, Amman, Jakarta etc.

I want to see and hear the actual, traditionally muslim countries feed millions and millions and millions of their own dollars and military power into this.

originally posted by: InhaleExhale
a reply to: grandmakdw

The same writings order hold the same importance in the Koran, however, in the earliest writings love and tolerance are taught; the later writings supersede the early writings,; in the later writings killing infidels is taught as what a Muslim should be doing. According to the Koran, Muslims are to obey the later writings rather than the early writings.

So a person that believes in the God of Abraham is an Infidel to a Muslim?

Maybe I should take the class you took because the Muslims I learned from taught me a different Islam or at least different definitions of terms and how they fit in context to the whole.

Did you watch the video I linked to?

www.youtube.com...

This was done my a Muslim scholar.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

I agree with all of that, but when wa the last time a christian beheaded someone in public? Just saying.

sometime during the crusades...at least a 1000 years ago en.wikipedia.org...



they evolved from killing into child molestation...

So that means these Muslims are 1,000 years behind. So they can't expected to evolve until the year 3,000.

originally posted by: Thurisaz

originally posted by: CheeryYellow
If someone says all Muslims want to kill infidels, you may as well say all Christians are Westboro Baptist.

yeah.. that is even scarier!

How is a group of less than 30 white trash American fundie christians who just hold up signs and say mean things be more scary to you than hundreds of Islamic extremists itching to murder anyone thats not one of them?

originally posted by: Thurisaz
hmm well I am not Christian but I do respect the charitable work and their community efforts. Salvation Army and Red Cross for example devote much to the homeless and needy without expecting anything.

Don't be fooled. The Salvation Army is more than a charity it is an Evangelical Church that holds a strong hateful anti-homosexual agenda and uses profits it makes to support this agenda. Its business of hate not a charity of love.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly
Whats the alternative my government wants to destroy its people? And to what end?

Its human nature. Stereotyping happens when a certain group of people commit terrible acts. Once that happens, then anyone that resembles the accused will get lumped into the same negative pile as them (innocent or not) - Is it wrong? Yeah, it is. But it is what it is.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: MystikMushroom
Or and in the event they fail to clean their own mess. Its time for the West to take control and proxy governments in all of the M E..

Yeah, lets make more coups in the hornets nest because that worked out great in the past! Installing The Shah, removing Saddam and Gaddafi, going against Assad and so on.
It's time for the West to back off and let people of ME sort out their own problems. I mean, completely back off. Stop funding Israel stop funding/sending aid to any of those countries, close down our borders etc.
Hell, there was no Al Qaeda or ISIS in Iraq and Libya when Gaddafi and Saddam ruled, now those countries are breeding grounds for the fundamentalist scum. Gaddafi even told us that the so called "rebels" of the "Arab spring" were nothing but extremists yet we chose to bomb Libyan army and help the extremists ?

originally posted by: UnBreakable

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: BasementWarriorKryptonite

I agree with all of that, but when wa the last time a christian beheaded someone in public? Just saying.

sometime during the crusades...at least a 1000 years ago en.wikipedia.org...



they evolved from killing into child molestation...

So that means these Muslims are 1,000 years behind. So they can't expected to evolve until the year 3,000.

sounds about right give or take a few hundred years

The very idea of asking a follower of Islam to denounce Jihad is tantamount to asking a Christian to denounce Christ.
Most people seem not to realise that Jihad is a fundamental obligation of Islam. Now it may not be spoken about openly, as, let's be honest, the whole idea of converting the whole world to Islam is hardly pacific, but it is in fact the basic tenet of Islam.
So then, what should be done given that Islam itself demands that everybody agrees to succumb to Allah, with Mohammed as his prophet? Of course we always have the option of accepting Islam, I however choose not to do so.
As much as it hurts me to say it, followers of Islam must, no, have to be either re-educated to accept that humanity is more important than Islam. Or other measures must be taken. The world is facing its very first painful choice. Genocide for the common good, or long term multinational, large scale and remorseless chaotic and spontaneous, savage attacks.
I for one am glad I am not a politician in these dark times.

a reply to: BlackNWhite
How about lets crush this region and not have to let our children deal with them

a reply to: Jonjonj

You are spot on with regards to islams fundamental obligations, the media constantly skips this basic requirement of muslims. Infact we are repeatedly told by media the very opposite, please poeple wake up!
Im tired of trying to explain the basic requirements of muslims to spread islam globally, to establish their caliphate through all forms of jihad, please people learn about sharia. We cannot trust the words of muslims (taqiyya), my words will not change your minds so please do some research on islam for the sake of your families.
Look at whats happening in England and Germany for reference and just maybe, hopefully we will find our own Geert Wilders of the Neatherlands.
Please learn about the life and exploits of Mohammed (the perfect man that all muslims are encouraged to emulate). If we dont start learning about the most serious threat to life as we know it (western culture) and begin to deal with them we will only be leaving it up to our children to do so.
Dont rely on media, do your own research, learn, please, i emplore you!

a reply to: TechniXcality

your government is looking out for corporate interests...if that happens to coincide with the public interests...than they are working for the people.

To what end ? maximizing corporate profits. In the end...everything is about...profit. Nobody lifts a damn finger if the enterprise is not financially benefitial to someone.

It's not the your gov wants to destroy it's people...it just that...if they do destroy any in the process...they won't shed any tears about it. You are just a number to them.

I take it...considering your avatar, that you've been present on some of the ME battle grounds..Iraq, Afghanistan maybe ? Why were you there ? protecting American people ? surely not...because your people were back home safe and sound...within their borders. No American was saved due to your war efforts...only a few more died than should have.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly
Your misunderstanding foreign policy and the struggles of a global super power, yes you are right innocent people on both sides died and 2007 for my company was a particularly deadly time I lost many friends, and morbidity reigned. I even lost sight I preached the evil American empire sermon with my German girlfriend. I realized later a couple things that I know are true. First America has a love for freedom/diversity and intellectual thought. America believes in the underdog, the less fortunate, and any American will tell you its not over until I stop kicking, and even then ill still try. These ideals makes America great and any Western country for that matter. Also I realized there are threats that exist not because of morality (though we like to sell it that way, and I disagree) but simply because they exist, some are resource based and other are ideological, regardless we must believe that those in power are privy to things you and i are not. Furthermore they make the best decision with the best information available. Indeed sometimes they are wrong and hindsight is 20/20. What it really comes down to at the end of the day is who's side are you on? Do you support Western society and its beauty and foreign interests, or do you not.

a reply to: TechniXcality

What it really comes down to at the end of the day is who's side are you on? Do you support Western society and its beauty and foreign interests, or do you not.

I live in the western world...sort off...and no...I do not support "foreign interests". My interest is always within my borders, my country, my village, my street. If something is lacking within my borders, than I will make a trade with my neighbor for that which I need. I will not get my gun and move in on my neighbor because he has something I don't.

When you said "foreign interests"...that term is exactly what's wrong with the western powers today. Having interest in other people's belongings or land or resources, somehow legitimizes you to occupy and abuse those countries ??? If we people started to act that way in our daily lives...there would be chaos.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows that all muslims aren't terrorists or want anything to do with it.

A muslim family just moved in next door to my girlfriend in Leeds, the nicest family i have met for a long time. They offer thier help constantly, bring food round, the children are polite and lovely to have round. Yesterday they said thet wanted to buy thier house because of how lovely thier neighbours were.

Thier Christian neighbours.

Any brush tarring usualt comes from the lower end of the gene pool.

CX.