I am sick of being poor.

a reply to: nonspecific

I read alot of threads on lucid and astral. And here we have a person, able to bend space and time, reach Higher Self or Guide and start brainstorming why they're here, and learn abilities they can use in the real world. Most do other things.

This is the jackpot in manifesting. Feel really happy about things and manifest them here, from there. With Spirit and Source, and maybe if a person's goal is discovering who they are and their loving essence and that they came in with real goals to polish up and shine love and reach people or do things, then they're going to be envisioning what is in partnership with Source.

a reply to: OrphanApology

Isn't this the Ranting forum? Hyperbole is expected. Besides, my finances are fine and I have all the vices. I have sympathy for anyone in this economy who does not make at least 130,000 per year. You root for poverty, not me.

originally posted by: Unity_99
a reply to: nonspecific

I read alot of threads on lucid and astral. And here we have a person, able to bend space and time, reach Higher Self or Guide and start brainstorming why they're here, and learn abilities they can use in the real world. Most do other things.

This is the jackpot in manifesting. Feel really happy about things and manifest them here, from there. With Spirit and Source, and maybe if a person's goal is discovering who they are and their loving essence and that they came in with real goals to polish up and shine love and reach people or do things, then they're going to be envisioning what is in partnership with Source.

I understand what you are saying to a degree. I just failed to see how they claimed to be poor and could not buy bigmacs and you said that astal projection would help? I am not saying it would not but I feel this may be more of a real world problem than a spiritual endeavour. please explain how you feel your advice may help the OP.

originally posted by: violet
If you are are low on cash, you need to do what others do. It's called budgeting.
Put the video game away and sit down and write out all that you spend, how can you make the cost go down.

A cheeseburger costing $10? . Very easy solution to that one. Buy some food that's cheaper to cook yourself. Look I've been so broke I couldn't eat at all! Here you are stuffing cheeseburgers in your face. I could not afford to eat out. When I am going thru times of hardship, I can think of plenty of easy things to cook, to fill me up. A baked potatoe is one. Very filling. Nuts are filling. Make a fried egg sandwhich, grilled cheese, bowl of cereal or soup. If you like burgers so much, make them. To can buy just one or two buns at the supermarket, as well as small amounts of ground beef or ready made burgers. There are plenty of coupons available to use for discounts. Read the flyers that advertise sales and have coupons , get some scissors and cut them out. Go to the food bank. Think! There's cheaper ways but I provided you with easier ways.

A person who is truly broke cannot afford to eat out!

I understand your plight. However you appear to lack the skills on how to budget or cook.

I call BS on your reply. The OP did not give his location. If he lives in NYC then you can bet your ass a cheeseburger can cost 10 bucks easily.

Buying food is MORE than cooking yourself. If the OP has no cooking utensils or equipment, not even a crockpot, the initial cost is 200, and that is the cheap junk at big lots just to get his kitchen right. Now couple that with groceries plus spices which are HELLA EXPENSIVE NOW and you got 200 bucks in the cart between four bags, with maybe enough food for two meals.

Eggs where I'm at - 3-4 bucks for a dozen. Bread is normally 4 bucks, and that is the cheap Mother's long loaf or the store bread when not on sale. Nuts are filling but are EXPENSIVE. Cashews are 5 bucks for the small tin can. Walnuts and Almonds can go 8 bucks a pound and up. Planters little one shot bags are 2 bucks. Maybe he can catch the lays peanuts 2/1.00. Maybe, the bags are smaller than they have been in years. A bag of potatoes is 7-9 bucks. Cereal is 4-6 bucks a BOX! Milk is 4 bucks a Gallon. What if the OP is lactose intolerant, the smaller alternatives are PRICEY for less. Ground beef is 6 bucks or more a pound. Chicken is 10 bucks a pound. Lunchmeat, even store brand is 8-10 a pound! That isn't including getting tomato, lettuce, onion, and other veggie condiments to support it. Coupons don't always cut the cost down, and stuff isn't always a sale.

The food bank may not be a viable option; more and more people are NOT DONATING. In Chicago there were 2 food banks, and both in the richest neighborhoods. Guess what, you couldn't go there unless you have a registered license in an address in the zipcode. THAT'S RIGHT. The rich went to get all the Whole Paycheck throways or Trader Joe consummables for free. And they really didn't need them but they let them do it anyway. One of the reasons I quit volunteering there.

A person who is broke will eat out - ON THE DOLLAR MENU. If he has a Waffle House, he can get an egg and cheese biscuit sandwhich for a buck. An Angus Cheeseburger for a buck. Sounds cheaper than cooking at home, when 3 bucks can have him full.

originally posted by: ArchPlayer

originally posted by: violet
If you are are low on cash, you need to do what others do. It's called budgeting.
Put the video game away and sit down and write out all that you spend, how can you make the cost go down.

A cheeseburger costing $10? . Very easy solution to that one. Buy some food that's cheaper to cook yourself. Look I've been so broke I couldn't eat at all! Here you are stuffing cheeseburgers in your face. I could not afford to eat out. When I am going thru times of hardship, I can think of plenty of easy things to cook, to fill me up. A baked potatoe is one. Very filling. Nuts are filling. Make a fried egg sandwhich, grilled cheese, bowl of cereal or soup. If you like burgers so much, make them. To can buy just one or two buns at the supermarket, as well as small amounts of ground beef or ready made burgers. There are plenty of coupons available to use for discounts. Read the flyers that advertise sales and have coupons , get some scissors and cut them out. Go to the food bank. Think! There's cheaper ways but I provided you with easier ways.

A person who is truly broke cannot afford to eat out!

I understand your plight. However you appear to lack the skills on how to budget or cook.

I call BS on your reply. The OP did not give his location. If he lives in NYC then you can bet your ass a cheeseburger can cost 10 bucks easily.

Buying food is MORE than cooking yourself. If the OP has no cooking utensils or equipment, not even a crockpot, the initial cost is 200, and that is the cheap junk at big lots just to get his kitchen right. Now couple that with groceries plus spices which are HELLA EXPENSIVE NOW and you got 200 bucks in the cart between four bags, with maybe enough food for two meals.

Eggs where I'm at - 3-4 bucks for a dozen. Bread is normally 4 bucks, and that is the cheap Mother's long loaf or the store bread when not on sale. Nuts are filling but are EXPENSIVE. Cashews are 5 bucks for the small tin can. Walnuts and Almonds can go 8 bucks a pound and up. Planters little one shot bags are 2 bucks. Maybe he can catch the lays peanuts 2/1.00. Maybe, the bags are smaller than they have been in years. A bag of potatoes is 7-9 bucks. Cereal is 4-6 bucks a BOX! Milk is 4 bucks a Gallon. What if the OP is lactose intolerant, the smaller alternatives are PRICEY for less. Ground beef is 6 bucks or more a pound. Chicken is 10 bucks a pound. Lunchmeat, even store brand is 8-10 a pound! That isn't including getting tomato, lettuce, onion, and other veggie condiments to support it. Coupons don't always cut the cost down, and stuff isn't always a sale.

The food bank may not be a viable option; more and more people are NOT DONATING. In Chicago there were 2 food banks, and both in the richest neighborhoods. Guess what, you couldn't go there unless you have a registered license in an address in the zipcode. THAT'S RIGHT. The rich went to get all the Whole Paycheck throways or Trader Joe consummables for free. And they really didn't need them but they let them do it anyway. One of the reasons I quit volunteering there.

A person who is broke will eat out - ON THE DOLLAR MENU. If he has a Waffle House, he can get an egg and cheese biscuit sandwhich for a buck. An Angus Cheeseburger for a buck. Sounds cheaper than cooking at home, when 3 bucks can have him full.

If this is true than you guys are in more trouble than I thought. Has it really got that bad that people can no longer afford basic cooking utensils and basic foods like vegatables, legumes ect? If so then I underestimated the situation and I appologise.

In England it is getting pretty bad as food prices are rising but the main problem is lack of understanding and education.

Food prices are rising but you can still easily buy fresh root vegatables, greens and pulses like lentils and chick peas, even meat of poor animal welfare and feed yourself for far cheaper than we can buy take out.

I realise that it may me easier to buy premade food but fail to se that it is impossible to cook for yourself.

a reply to: ArchPlayer

He said he plays video games, so I'm assuming he has electricity and a TV. Or computer, or however these games are played, He did not say he was homeless. I'm aware of how much food costs, but I disagree paying for restaurants is cheaper. If the loaf is $4 and eggs are $3 , as you say, that's $7 and will make how many sandwhiches? I'm just suggesting easy things to cook, boil the egg in water over a fire. I'm encouraging him to think. It's what I had to do. Had to do. Nuts are a good source of protein and can be purchased in the shells much cheaper. Just suggestions because he was focusing on this burger.

I call BS on you saying he could not save money by adopting some new habits and putting some effort into it.

Like others have said, you could save a fortune rolling your own ciggs. Check out your dollar stores, they carry name brand food items and you can often find good things there...canned goods, cereals, canned tuna or ham, snacks etc. Second hand shops are great for clothing and everything under the sun. Stock up at the grocery store when they have those buy one get one free items, especially meat. Look online for cheap but healthy and delicious meals.

For Birthdays and Christmas, learn how to do crafts. You would be amazed at the things you can make for cheap that looks like you spent a lot. Gift baskets are so easy to throw together and decorate.

a reply to: ChefSlug

Why should anyone work so you don't have too?

originally posted by: xDeadcowx
What i am gathering from this thread is that the key to not being poor is to not eat mcdonalds and don't smoke.

2 super easy steps to get out of poverty! Economists hate him!

Seriously though, spending $20 a week on a cheap burger and a pack of smokes should not be a make or break decision.

The problem is not the burgers or the smokes, its the rising cost of living and the falling wages. Anybody who says differently is just trying to validate their own measly existence. Working 40+ hours a week and barely having enough to survive is not acceptable. The moment we just accept it and focus on staying positive while getting crapped on is the moment we, as a society, lose.

Screw this feel good crap, get angry, get pissed off, demand living wages and never settle for less. The more people that stand up and refuse to accept the table scraps we are offered, the sooner the working man will be able to actually relax for once and not have to constantly worry about the next rent payment, or where the next meal is coming from.

Thats funny.

It is called UNIONS.

Something everyone seems to hate and blame these days.

Sheetmetal worker, while it has it's ups and downs, it is not too much to ask for a fair days wage for a fair days work.

People don't like low wages and no benny's, people don't like unions either.

Don't worry the corporation has your best interests in mind.

Notice how the media brainwashes UNIONS=BAD, then wages stagnate and goods prices go up.

Corporate America knows whats best for all of us, just trust them.

We are one stupid greedy non empathetic nation of people. Make the super rich pay their share!!! Problem solved.

This guy should just suck it up. Things are tough all over, Use your brain! Be creative! Quit smoking, quit eating, and walk to work! Open a business making toilet paper roses on the top of your fridge and sell them on street corners. Lazy no nothing slob........ just wants something for nuthin! I guess what I am trying to say is our economy is really tough for alot of people and that is what needs changed! What ever happened to friends and family helping each other out? Where are those stimulus jobs when we need them? We need better representation in government and more compassion for our fellow man. I think looking inside of himself for more awakening should be practiced by everyone and society should step up and help their fellow man. Where is the offer of a carpool or invitation to dinner, or better yet Granma's home cooking? We the people should be human enough to help our fellow man in need. P.S. Don't fry me too crisp with your replies.

I don't think the OP rant was about starving to death. I also don't think this is about how much we should cut out in order to survive.
My feeling was that he was just ranting about being poor. About having to always count the pennies and to always live under the treat that there is not enough money to make it to the end of the month. I am completely with him on this.

A working person should be able to afford to smoke and to buy an occasionally cheeseburger from his salary without having to cut other expenses; in fact a salary should allow a person to live comfortably, within the limits, of course. Two salaries in a household should sustain a family of three; at least. And I don't mean on beans and second hand clothes.
But this is not the case anymore.
We work hard and barely get by; and most of us feel lucky because there are so many who don't even get that.
That is what is wrong.
But we are so deep in it that only a major, really major change can help us. And that will happen when enough people will say "enough!" While we still looking for what else to cut out and the government is looking for what else they can tax us for, we'll keep sliding down this poverty hole.

a reply to: ChefSlug

I have heard from many successful people that selling your soul for fortune works. Or you could sell crack?

a reply to: ChefSlug

I used to cook burgers at resteraunts, you want a great tasting $10 burger? Put some garlic powder on both sides of the burger patties before you cook them at 350 degrees. Will only cost you $1.50 a 1\4 lb burger before toppings and condiments.

First a preface. I grew up poor I have lived out of my car I have had a great paying job I have left a great paying job and worked for next to nothing.

This is my personal truth and belief the problem with all of this is people expect others to cover there shortcomings. Every one wants no expects people to do for them what they should be done for themselves. If your tired of being poor do something to change it, it really is that simple there are jobs out there and available that so not require a college degree that pay a respectable wage but it is up to you to find them. No one should be expected or required to find them for you. If you are to lazy, self in titled or whatever to work to better your living situation why should I feel bad for you?

I see it day in and day out the company I work for employs a temp agency to cover some positions of "lesser skill" they are payed minimum wage for there time and in general are treated like crap by many of the full time wotkers, but if they are not actively trying to better themselves and move on from this temp service job should I feel bad for them? No I think not especially when a vast majority of them have worked here for multiple years.

It all boils down to making your own way in life if you sit around expecting someone to give you what you think you deserve you won't wait long because it's nothing. To make your way in this world you have to earn it strive for it and put in the work, just like everyone else. If that is to much of a burden on you then be ready to eat top roman and live a substandard life because that is what you have set up for yourself.

Now to the OP I understand you had tried to go to culinary school and it hadn't worked out for one reason or another it happens I was in the same place, it sucks pushing through the debt and obstacles that will be placed in front of you. It takes hard work and determination but it is possible.

Rant over

First a preface. I grew up poor I have lived out of my car I have had a great paying job I have left a great paying job and worked for next to nothing.

This is my personal truth and belief the problem with all of this is people expect others to cover there shortcomings. Every one wants no expects people to do for them what they should be done for themselves. If your tired of being poor do something to change it, it really is that simple there are jobs out there and available that so not require a college degree that pay a respectable wage but it is up to you to find them. No one should be expected or required to find them for you. If you are to lazy, self in titled or whatever to work to better your living situation why should I feel bad for you?

I see it day in and day out the company I work for employs a temp agency to cover some positions of "lesser skill" they are payed minimum wage for there time and in general are treated like crap by many of the full time wotkers, but if they are not actively trying to better themselves and move on from this temp service job should I feel bad for them? No I think not especially when a vast majority of them have worked here for multiple years.

It all boils down to making your own way in life if you sit around expecting someone to give you what you think you deserve you won't wait long because it's nothing. To make your way in this world you have to earn it strive for it and put in the work, just like everyone else. If that is to much of a burden on you then be ready to eat top roman and live a substandard life because that is what you have set up for yourself.

Now to the OP I understand you had tried to go to culinary school and it hadn't worked out for one reason or another it happens I was in the same place, it sucks pushing through the debt and obstacles that will be placed in front of you. It takes hard work and determination but it is possible.

Rant over

originally posted by: ChefSlug
I majored in Culinary Arts at the CIA

That's impressive.

You asked what to do. Well ... stop smoking. Stop wasting money on McDonalds. Go into the Army as a chef on a three year hitch. You'll get free housing and free medical and free meals and a paycheck. You'll get the cook/chef experience necessary on your resume to go back to chef school when you get out and you'll have money in the bank AND the military will be paying for school while you are in so you can take some classes over the next three years free of charge.

That's my suggestion.

That's how I did it. I went in the Army for 5 years and got a bunch of my schooling for free all the while I earned a paycheck and got to see Japan in depth (stationed at Camp Zama).

a reply to: FlyersFan

A viable option. Or, he can get of his ass and look for a sous chef position or another kitchen position and work up from there. As a former chef and restaurateur I hired many assistants for both of my locations and plenty of them have done well and are still in the industry. There is always a demand for cooking help and feeling sorry for ones self and eating McDonalds (Seriously? You went to the CIA and you eat McDonalds?) is not the answer. The industry is rife with opportunity.

What a pathetic rant.

I read your rant and at first thought you were kidding !! You are the one that needs to push the reset button, that might change your bad attitude. Quit worrying about the world's problems, put down your video game remote and concentrate on improving your situation. If things like big Macs and cigs cost too much.....stop buying them or get up off the couch and get a better job or a part-time job. Sorry, you sound like a whiny little kid.

a reply to: ChefSlug

If you can consider the luxury of a heavily taxed pack of cigarettes and own your own vehicle, you aren't poor. For a $500 investment and about 4 hours per week of extra work, you can create your own aquaponic setup at home and produce 80% of the food you need to eat. Humans follow a linear progression of income gains over the course of their lifetime because they are creatures of habit. If you never invest in the means of production, you will never increase your income by more than a handful of percentage points with each passing year. If your income doesn't grow by at least 3% per year, you are losing the game by any objective measurement. In reality, your income should grow by at least 12% per year, if not 40% or 500% if you're lucky. Those who live in a capitalist country and refuse to participate as capitalists are pissing away the greatest opportunity humankind has ever known. Capitalism is literally the operation of your freedom in actuality. If you aren't playing the game, you might as well live in a despotic nation. Life for you is no different from slaves in a fascist country.