Mysteries of The Great Pyramid Explored...

originally posted by: Thiaoouba Prophecy
Then who built the pyramid if it wasn't Cheops?

Isn't it crazy..? Such an immense, expensive, labor intensive and ever lasting construction has no name on it or indication of what it is. Really weird.. unless somewhere in time someone took all the information about it away on purpose.

What is new to me is that in the OP clip there is said that the mummie of Khufu was found by caliph Al-Ma'mun. I Always believed that no mummie was ever found.

An other thing which makes me wonder is that at the time of the build the wheel was not invented yet by the egyptians. Seeing how they must have used serious math and calculating complex forces it is hard to belief they were not able to think in terms of wheels.

originally posted by: Another_Nut
a reply to: Thiaoouba Prophecy

Regurgitating spirit science like u wrote it doesnt make u

Smart
Knowledgeable
Prophetic
Enlightened
Or anything else

It just shows how u dont have an original thought


Sorrry

You think YOU have an original thought? Do you even know who YOU ARE?

All thoughts are not really even your own thoughts but rise in consciousness. Show me proof of one single original thought that YOU have had. I know who I am so I know that consciousness arises in me and not I in it.

Why don't you try and investigate my claims on how I say The Great Pyramid was built instead of attacking me because you are afraid of what you don't know because you rather stay in ignorance than discover the Truth of The origins of mankind.

a reply to: zatara

Since this thread is about the "great" pyramid the missing capstone probably held some clues.

The Egyptians probably understood earths precession as well as they understood mathematical constants.

What were they thinking?

a reply to: Thiaoouba Prophecy

Ive watched that video too

U didnt say anything

O and yiu screen name is a violation of t&c

I see how well u read

Anything else u would like to pass off as yiur own?

originally posted by: 131415
1. THE PHARAOHS WERE NOT HUMAN BEINGS
2. JESUS/MOSES/NOAH WERE NOT HUMAN BEINGS
3. QUATZEQUATEL/NIMROD/OSIRIS/SETH/HORUS/RA/NEBUCHADNEZZAR WERE NOT HUMAN BEINGS
4. THE SUMARIAN KINGS LIST WERE NOT HUMAN BEINGS.

I can't stress this enough. They are simply Anthropomorphism.

You guys will never solve anything until you come to this conclusion.

You didn't provide any evidence that any of this is true

Tut was a pharaoh are you saying he wasn't human? There are a number of other mummies that were probably Pharaohs or related to them and they seem human enough.

We also have in AE times incidents when non royal members took over government and became Pharaoh....not sure how you explain that......

On point 4. Archaeologically there was no Sumerian cities for those mythical kings to be kings of, so why would we consider them real?

2 & 3 maybe the 2's folks existed perhaps not the rest is all myth and legend.

originally posted by: zatara

originally posted by: Thiaoouba Prophecy
Then who built the pyramid if it wasn't Cheops?

Isn't it crazy..? Such an immense, expensive, labor intensive and ever lasting construction has no name on it or indication of what it is. Really weird.. unless somewhere in time someone took all the information about it away on purpose.

Such information was in the mortuary temples attached to the tombs and perhaps on valley temple where supplies and visitors came up from the Nile. Anything left for thousands of years tends to get looted and defaced.

One can look at the information we do have and that they were built in an existing necopolis.

originally posted by: Another_Nut
a reply to: Thiaoouba Prophecy

Ive watched that video too

U didnt say anything

O and yiu screen name is a violation of t&c

I see how well u read

Anything else u would like to pass off as yiur own?

When did I claim that knowledge as my own when in my first post I quoted and said who the author and the original title of the book was.

Please help me understand what knowledge that you YOURSELF have that was not learned?

When did I claim myself to be anything that you accused me of being?

I repeat do you even know who and what you are?

Please answer at least any of my questions when all you simply have done is attack my understanding of the Truth that I have aquired through my 15 years of research. I have been on this forum since its inception. 2009 screen name was my 2nd. I am no newbie to this forum or conspiracy theories.

Why don't you try and contribute your own knowledge to this thread instead of attacking my knowledge?

###SNIPPED###

Well lets see how many t&c u can violate in one post

There is

16c admitting this is yiur second account

There is 19 -advertising which yiur screen name violates

And lastly u come very close to this

www.abovetopsecret.com...

For some reason I think u might be needing a third name soon

Whatta joke


a reply to: Thiaoouba Prophecy

I never understood these threads. I mean does it matter who build the pyramids or why or how. Its just more crap from the past, another statue in the mud, like many countless others which once riddled this world and have turned to dust. This one for now is still standing like a carcass picked clean in a dessert, its bones barely sticking out the sand, but give it some time a few hundred years more and it to will be nothing more then dust, and in a few hundred more not even a memory. Its as it should be.

a reply to: 131415

Relax dude. Besides I have heard tell that ATS has something against writing in all caps. What you should have said that the pyramids and all these kings, gods and stories have about as much relationship in the actual buildings and ways of life of the common people or even these famous Egyptian pharos or the time setting. Or as about in relation as the Comcast center skyscraper has in relation to it being build by the great god of ethereal connection and fluidity, which in our time is known as Comcast Cable. But if Comcast goes out of business and some other lead tenant takes there place, they may have to change there name and logos and even the decor. And repeat that for hundreds of thousands of years, and really who gives a # who build it, or which last namesake or franchise dwelt in it, or what pictorials they decorated the insides with, or who copied who and stole who's brand, really its all pointless.

In real life if you meet a guy who's last name was thatcher or smith you would likely expect that his ancestors came from England and somewhere down the line some were smiths or thatchers. In a case like this, well who cares, people attribute more things to so and so, then there actually was, its like playing a game of telephone over hundreds of thousands of years, the original message may be nothing like it is now or we interpret it to be. Its not only anthropomorphic, its just plain cookie cutter making stuff up and then believing your own makebelieve, generation after generation, till offcourse it becomes the one and only truth.

Can someone answer this question for me. The sarcophagi in the pyramids of giza do not have inscriptions on them. Why do some of Khufus sons have inscriptions on the sarcophagus and some dont? It may have been in the old kingdom, but his children had them inscripted on their sarcophagi that were NOT in the pyramids of giza and it was needed in order to get to the afterlife. It's REQUIRED. Why did SOME of the sons have inscriptions? It jsut doesnt make any sense.....

unless someone chipped off the hieroglyphics from all of the sarcophagi in the three pyramids......

originally posted by: 5letters
Can someone answer this question for me. The sarcophagi in the pyramids of giza do not have inscriptions on them. Why do some of Khufus sons have inscriptions on the sarcophagus and some dont? It may have been in the old kingdom, but his children had them inscripted on their sarcophagi that were NOT in the pyramids of giza and it was needed in order to get to the afterlife. It's REQUIRED. Why did SOME of the sons have inscriptions? It jsut doesnt make any sense.....

unless someone chipped off the hieroglyphics from all of the sarcophagi in the three pyramids......

.....Or the inscriptions were on wood panels on the walls; Lehner wrote a paper on that speculation. Other possibilities are that the plain sarcophagi was covered with a wooden or even golden outer layer, or he died before it was finished and they used what they had - many are the speculations! Additionally the incantations were probably in the mortuary temple.

Where the magical incantations changed over time as the AE religion evolved. I forget at the moment what was the specific 'fad' in such things at that time.

originally posted by: Hanslune
a reply to: Harte

Hey Harte

Long, long ago on Usenet one guy explained the gypsum mortar under the blocks by the simple observation that the AE poured the concrete at the base of the pyramid, not where it was finally situated. They then let it set and then dragged it up..........

I mentioned that necessity in a previous post in this thread.

Cutting out limestone blocks. Pulverizing these blocks. Turning the residue into cement. Pouring the cement into unique, individual forms, one per block. Allowing the cement to harden. Then dragging these up a ramp.

Seems like after a year or so of doing this, some smart Egyptian would have said "Hey! Why don't we just drag the stone blocks up the ramp?"

Harte

originally posted by: coop039
a reply to: Harte


Actually they were cast in place on the structure so they didnt have to be moved. If you watch the full video they show this being done. Not saying this is how they were built, just stating how he thinks they were.

"Cast in place on the structure" on top of a layer of mortar?

Harte

originally posted by: JiggyPotamus
First of all you did an excellent job in composing this, and your previous, thread. In my time on ATS I have really come to favor threads with such substance, and appreciate the work necessary to create something that people want to read. I especially liked the included video and link, as I have often wanted a visual representation of ancient Egypt, especially where vegetation is concerned. It is easy for someone to get the impression that this area of Egypt is mostly desert, thus it was like that when the pyramids were constructed. Honestly I would bet that the area was much more lush than depicted in the visual representation.

Slayer does create a mean thread. The best thing about Slayer's OP's is he doesn't immediately go for the "It Wuz ALIEEUNZ!!!" explanation for everything. Such admirable restraint stands out at ATS.

originally posted by: JiggyPotamusI have always had a problem believing that the pyramids were built without the help of slave labor. First of all Josephus claimed that the Jews worked as pyramid builders, and although Biblical sources do not actually mention the pyramids, they claim the Jews were forced to construct "bricks" by the Egyptians.

There is no evidence - other than the written Hebrew mythology - that the Jews were ever captive in Egypt. But even if they were, there were no Hebrews anywhere when the Great Pyramid was constructed.

originally posted by: JiggyPotamus So Egypt, at least at certain points, did use slave labor. I don't think this is highly disputed.

Not only is this "highly disputed," it is utterly debunked by Archaeology. The worker's "village" is vast and surrounds the area. Only a portion has been excavated and examined. The workers were not slaves at all, but were conscripted Egyptians that, it appears, took great pride in being selected for the work.

originally posted by: JiggyPotamusIn Herodotus' "Histories" he claims that Egyptian officials explicitly told him that the Egyptians were "forced" to help build the pyramids.

Basically everything Herodotus wrote about the pyramids has proven to be false. That's understandable since he (supposedly) based his history on interviews with people that lived over two thousand years after the Great Pyramid was built.

originally posted by: JiggyPotamus
I do not entertain ancient astronaut theories of the pyramids for a number of reasons, but the most important is that everything the Egyptians achieved was capable of being done by man at that time.

Bravo and thank you for your rationalism.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: Hanslune
a reply to: Harte

Hey Harte

Long, long ago on Usenet one guy explained the gypsum mortar under the blocks by the simple observation that the AE poured the concrete at the base of the pyramid, not where it was finally situated. They then let it set and then dragged it up..........

I mentioned that necessity in a previous post in this thread.

Cutting out limestone blocks. Pulverizing these blocks. Turning the residue into cement. Pouring the cement into unique, individual forms, one per block. Allowing the cement to harden. Then dragging these up a ramp.

Seems like after a year or so of doing this, some smart Egyptian would have said "Hey! Why don't we just drag the stone blocks up the ramp?"

Harte

Plus they already had a great deal of experience doing the rock thing.

originally posted by: JiggyPotamus
I have always had a problem believing that the pyramids were built without the help of slave labor. First of all Josephus claimed that the Jews worked as pyramid builders, and although Biblical sources do not actually mention the pyramids, they claim the Jews were forced to construct "bricks" by the Egyptians. So Egypt, at least at certain points, did use slave labor. I don't think this is highly disputed. In Herodotus' "Histories" he claims that Egyptian officials explicitly told him that the Egyptians were "forced" to help build the pyramids.

That is incorrect, as the Hebrew language bible does not use the term slaves, but calls them "labourers". It actually alludes in several places that they were compensated, primarily in shelter and food, as they were previously nomadic.

Source: Richard Gabriel, Royal Military College of Canada, tv show Battles BC

but I would like to know if they were religious enough to perform back-breaking work for no pay.

Egypt paid its labourers primarily in BEER - the english word "cash" descends from the egyptian word "Kash", which was in reference to the beer, when used as payment. Interesting enough, the British Empire also paid its soldiers in beer, and India Pale Ale was invented because their regular beer would degenerate in the Indian climate.

Source: Beer school, which I had to go to working for the world's largest liquor company

originally posted by: galadofwarthethird
I never understood these threads. I mean does it matter who build the pyramids or why or how. Its just more crap from the past, another statue in the mud, like many countless others which once riddled this world and have turned to dust. This one for now is still standing like a carcass picked clean in a dessert, its bones barely sticking out the sand, but give it some time a few hundred years more and it to will be nothing more then dust, and in a few hundred more not even a memory. Its as it should be.

It's a mystery. Like all mysteries they are intriguing and challenge our intellect in order to solve them. This isn't "crap" from the past and it will more then likely still be here not for mere few hundred years from now as you think, but for a few more thousand years. Understanding how they were built makes us understand our own true hidden history and not the history that is written in books. It matter to me and most people that we HUMANS built this marvel of engineering rather then some ALIEN race that "created" our race as some ancient alien theorists believe.

a reply to: Thiaoouba Prophecy

Just a technical note on the pyramids of Giza - assuming the same basic weather pattern continues (highly unlikely) and erosion doesn't increase it will probably be recognizable as man made for several hundred thousand years.