Manhunt for a Cop-Hating Pennsylvania ‘Survivalist’

a reply to: Mikeultra

a properly titled and well thought out O.P. could really make your theory come alive
Oh, and put in the right forum

Rambo eludes cops, in his fight to get the truth out about ebola

Oh, wait, that didn't happen

But it would be an awesome thread!
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It's amazing Frein has eluded capture for over a month. Is it because he's an expert survivalist or are the police are that inept? It's not that he's hiding out in an area that's 50 sqare miles, they've had him pinched off in like a five mile area.

originally posted by: Snarl
Well, here's the cost. $1.3M per week. Link

I'm willing to bet that's only what they're willing to disclose. Double is more likely.

Haven't been following this thread so this is interesting. I would say the reality is atleast double. Probably looking at 3 million per week if they're claiming 1.3. Interesting figures.

I was reading some info on another forum about Frein staying at a friends apartment in East Stroudsburg, PA just before he allegedly shot the state police at the Blooming Grove barracks. His friends name is Justin Smith and the photo below from Google Earth Street View shows a purple sign (circled) at the apartment that says Stop Corporate Greed. That sounds very much like OWS type of people. Also the sign has a bit of yellow on it. Purple and yellow...Could it be tied in with SEIU?

Corporate greed could be referring to Sanofi Pasteur, where Frein's father works on bio-warfare vaccines to spread the Ebola plaque around the world.



SANOFI : MILITARY $8.97 Million Federal Contract Awarded to Sanofi Pasteur

WASHINGTON, June 11 -- Sanofi Pasteur, Swiftwater, Pennsylvania, was awarded a $8,969,432 federal contract by the Defense Logistics Agency Troop Support, Philadelphia, for flu vaccines for the U.S. Army, U.S. Navy, U.S. Air Force, U.S. Marine Corps and federal civilian agencies.

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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: Snarl
Well, here's the cost. $1.3M per week. Link

I'm willing to bet that's only what they're willing to disclose. Double is more likely.

Haven't been following this thread so this is interesting. I would say the reality is atleast double. Probably looking at 3 million per week if they're claiming 1.3. Interesting figures.

This says 24 million a week, not to mention all the people being forced to shelter in place while a zillion cops run around in the woods. 40 days and counting..

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Any updates? Are they getting any closer to finding Rambo? It is hard to believe that we can track down terrorist in another country but can not find this young man. Starting to sound a little fishy and nothing on the media lately/

a reply to: RunForTheHills
I think they have been just waiting for the ADD effect to kick in and everyone just forget about it lol.

originally posted by: 12m8keall2c

originally posted by: HomerinNC

Sorry, finding the car AND his drivers license and everything else in the car so conveniently? Sounds like someones trying to set him up, or rapidly close the case.

OR... that he isn't as 'invincible/able to cover his tracks' as he might think.

likely figured he'd never even be tracked.... from a higher, secluded lookout/snipe bed.

???

He'll make the news again in a day or so....

obituaries, even.

... and rightfully so.

So 12m8keall2c what is your take on the situation now?

a reply to: olaru12

not quite sure what to make of it at this point.

PSP inept?

Frein that good/knowledgeable of the surroundings?

A bit of both?

not sure.

only thing i'm sure of, they won't stop looking, and things should soon be turning to their favor.

leaves falling. cold temps, etc. - time

dunno. surprised, to say the least, that it's gone on this long. that's for sure.

"They are really not going to catch him until he is ready to be caught," said Jeremiah Hornbaker, who hired Frein five years ago to advise him on historical accuracy for a World War I documentary film. "He is a very intelligent individual."

For six weeks Eric Frein has dodged one of the largest manhunts in Pennsylvania history, hiding in a small section of the Pocono Mountains he knows intimately and eating ramen noodles and cans of tuna that police say he cached for the ultimate war game.

www.latimes.com...=1

I think it is safe to say they probably will not catch him unless he wants them to.

I can't believe this guy has not been caught yet! The longer this guy stays out in the woods, the larger his legend will grow, especially with the amount of money spent and police being used. Geez, maybe this guy is Rambo?!?

They are turning this guy into a folk hero for many!

a reply to: Feltrick
It's really beginning to look like he's gonna be another D. B. Cooper minus the cash---just disappeared without a trace---unless you believe the "stuff" put out by LEOs, the note, prescription-bottle bombs, diapers.... Sorry, I've got a pretty open mind but the official story just strains my imagination.
I think I'm in the "he's outta there long ago" camp at this point. On the other hand, I can also imagine that we might be presented with his remains, found in one of his "bunkers" in the woods at some future date.
As for him being a folk hero, it's pretty standard for any outlaw who can evade capture to have his cheering section. To be able to fly under the radar in today's world is rather impressive.

a reply to: diggindirt

Well, let's see how he does when the weather gets colder. It gets cold up in them thar hills. Not sure how much stuff he has stashed but I'd think he planned for cold weather survival and that will be his biggest test. Easy to be awesome when the weather's nice.

Not sure if he bugged out of the area, there have been a few sightings of him around there.

a reply to: Feltrick
That's true. Certainly, he should be much easier to spot from the air with heat sensing equipment when the weather is cooler.
I can't help thinking that he's safely holed up somewhere miles and miles away---possibly with a different identity.

a reply to: diggindirt

Unless he's Harvey the Rabbit.

In the spirit of ATS, what if the cops got him on the first day and he's pushing up daisies in some lonely hollow?

a reply to: Bedlam
Ah, time to call Elwood P. Dowd, eh? (We're showing our age here I suspect!)

I suppose that could the case but my imagination just doesn't stretch that far. Why would they keep it secret and make themselves look like idiots?
I still don't understand why they felt the need to cancel Halloween....how many children go trick or treating in the woods?

They got him. Details coming in.

a reply to: Snarl

“They are really not going to catch him until he is ready to be caught,” Jeremiah Hornbaker, a filmmaker who knew Frein, said in an interview this month.

"He gave up because he was caught, and he had no choice but to give up," Noonan said.

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These are the two sides to this story.

I'm always amused by those in charge who fail to admit when they get outwitted. (Before I go any farther I just want to say that what Frein did was wrong. There is no excuse for it.)

Law enforcement officers are trained to deal with criminals and bad situations that could be of a criminal nature. They are not trained to survive in the woods indefinitely. Frein was, and that became obvious as each week passed. The reason that it was extremely dangerous for law enforcement to go into the Pocono's to flush the guy out was because they are not trained to that. Frein was and that's what made him dangerous to them. He has skills they don't. It's not because he's a crazed lunatic that wants to kill everything that moves.

There is a definite place for law enforcement in this society. The vast majority of people know this and respect it. They also know that the average law enforcement officer isn't highly trained in specialized skills like Frein is, and they accept that. Now law enforcement officers need to accept that and quit putting a negative spin on someone, making him out to be a monster that he isn't, when he outwits them. There's a rumor going around that the officer he killed was the next door neighbor to Frein's brother, and that the officer and his brothers wife were getting it on.

It could be as simple as that. But because Frein is a survivalist, he's out to get all the authority figures he can. (Which apparently include 4 year olds dressed up like Jigsaw in order to get candy). By the way, the survivalist crowd, by and large, don't condone his actions.

Again, what Frein did was wrong, and I believe that if you kill someone the taxpayers shouldn't pay to keep you alive in prison. An eye for an eye is fair treatment.(To law enforcement) But don't insult our intelligence by making the guy out to be worse than he is just because you don't have the skills to catch him on his own terms. If you did, it wouldn't have taken you 7 weeks to do it. All that does is cause panic and irrational fears. People say law enforcement needs to be held to a higher standard. I agree. And that higher standard means telling us taxpayers, the people who pay your salary, the way it is, not the way you want us to see it so you look better than what you are.

Keep things rational and honest for the people who follow your lead so they can be rational and honest.


For the record, I believe he eventually got caught because his survivalist training and skills did not include eluding law enforcement. That's why he never breached the perimeter they set up. Had he not got tired of that fight and walked outside in broad daylight where he knew he would be seen, he would still be out there. I believe the man has skills that could be taught to others, but because he killed an officer that potential is going to waste.

a reply to: Taupin Desciple

I'm still trying to get over the fact he was caught where he was. This story's not quite over yet.

These are the two sides to this story.

Maybe more. Not the time for further speculation on my part. Disturbing to see 'who it was' who caught him.


Did you see the expression on his face? Reminds me of another guy from a couple of decades ago.

There's a rumor going around that the officer he killed was the next door neighbor to Frein's brother, and that the officer and his brothers wife were getting it on.

That has been stuck in my mind since first hearing it. Ironic though, as I remember him being the one who survived. If you have a link ... please post it.

originally posted by: Snarl
Well, here's the cost. $1.3M per week. Link

I'm willing to bet that's only what they're willing to disclose. Double is more likely.

Final Cost Estimate - $11.7M