My first ghost hunt: The Palmer House

a reply to: Darkblade71

And the circle orb like things on the image you adjusted. Did they come up naturally? They are odd also. One is right on that mans third eye

a reply to: zazzafrazz

The guy in the photo is the bosses husband.
He is a pretty cool, kind of skeptical guy.
He was going hmmmm by the time we all left as well..lol

All I did was up the contrast and brightness to see if there was anything there.
That is what was there.
Those orb things.

originally posted by: coastlinekid
Why don't you ever hear of an atheist complaining that their house is haunted?...

Obviously because it doesn't fit into the MSM agenda...

An atheist (Mark Houser) unknowingly purchased a house that was occupied by spirits.

To make a long story short, I unwittingly purchased a house, for myself and my two teenagers, that was occupied by "spirits".
My son, my daughter, myself, and the previous owner of the house all saw the spirit. There were also friends of mine and my teenagers that witnessed the spirit. Since I didn't believe in that kind of thing, I passed it off to adolescent imaginations. I did not believe in the afterlife or the spirit realm.

The "hauntings" were investigated and documented as authentic by a television series called "The Other Side".



More in another post here.

a reply to: Darkblade71

Great post. Do you have a way to take infrared photographs? Maybe a friend has an infrared camera?

Try that next time and take as many non stop photographs as you can.

I am also interested if since you returned home any paranormal issues in your home? Any nightmares?

How long has it been since you visited the haunted home?

S&F

a reply to: Jesuslives4u

No way to take inferred yet.
I think when we were there, there was a guy with a camera like that,
but we don't have one.
Maybe some day.
I do have a kinnect camera that does inferred, but unless I want to pack up the entire xbox system,
I'll have to wait..lol

Actually, most of the paranormal activity we were having here stopped after we went down there.
Now it is rare to have something happen on the scale it was before.
My boss also had almost everything stop in their house as well.
Kind of strange, and the opposite of what you would expect.

The last visit was in May for a friends wedding he had there.
We all dresses up in 1920's style cloths.


This last time we were there The Ghost Adventures crew was also supposed to be there but they cancelled out.
I didn't know that until about a week or so ago.
That would of been a neat experience.

originally posted by: Darkblade71
a reply to: Unity_99
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That is what they gave us the mints for.
If people started to get nervous or if things went wrong or bad,
you were to pop a mint to keep your mind off of it,
and then ask to go back up stairs.

That's a good way to develop a serious fear of mints. Now, whenever former guests pop some Altoids they are overcome with pavlovian dread.



Great thread - thanks for sharing your experience!

a reply to: VegHead



Glad you enjoyed the thread!

Altoid terrors!

lol

Our group was just there a bout three weeks ago(Palmer house). Hopefully have some stuff uploaded to the site soon:

www.johnsdaleparanormalgroup.com...

a reply to: sindir

Awesome!
How did your trip go?

And welcome to ATS!

How did I end up your first post if you have been a member since 2012???

lol

Nice website BTW.
Need any more members???

lol


You ever look into any hauntings in Duluth?
Lots of places there that have creepy vibes.

It went pretty well. Nothing too crazy happened but, we did get some EVP's including a growl and one of our guys was tapped on the shoulder.

I've lurked on here for a long time and just happened to see the words Palmer house on a thread.

We've done lots of places in southern/central MN but, not much in the Duluth area.

a reply to: sindir

Nice.

Glad you stopped in and said something. I will keep an eye on your site for The Palmer House information.
I am very curious about what others have experienced there.

When we went, things started almost right away,
but they even said they were surprised/pleased that the spirits were reacting to us all.

I wouldn't of expected anything less. lol

There were a lot of strange sychronisities that brought us all down there,
so I knew something would happen.

originally posted by: Darkblade71
a reply to: WhiteAlice

I've seen shadowy things before, but not like that.
That was way closer up than I was expecting.

The boss however has woken up with something like that looking her in the face, more than once,
so it really spooked her.

I've only seen it once personally but that was it for me. I was fully awake, daytime and the entire thing was so very inexplicable. God knows, I tried figuring out what the heck it was. Deep black shadows are no joke. I don't know what it was other than freaky!

a reply to: coastlinekid

You again?? And after I informed you that I am an atheist the other day when you made this same erroneous statement. Methinks you sound like a broken record, kid.

originally posted by: Darkblade71
a reply to: coastlinekid

That is because they don't stay an atheist once they have an experience.

This is the first time I've seen you say something that I thought was rather ignorant ever.


I was an atheist before my shadow sighting. I remain an atheist.

a reply to: WhiteAlice

Wasn't meaning to be insulting.

I have a hard time understanding some atheists, especially when they go on the offense right away.
It was an ignorant statement, aimed at another poster.

I should not of been so broad in the statement.
Honestly, I don't know what happens when an atheist is confronted with something like this,
I would think it would make one question what they believe to be true.

Please don't take offense to it, it was not meant that way, and I cannot speak for atheists,
you all do a fine job of speaking for yourselves.

Labels for belief systems can get confusing. I know I've spent many years confused about what being an "Atheist" meant. I still get confused sometimes.

Technically, as best I understand it, an atheist is simply anyone doesn't believe in the existence of God (or Gods). Many atheists do not believe in any sort of supernatural or spiritual existence as well. However, there are people that identify as "spiritual atheists" (or similar label) who are atheists but do believe in an afterlife, and/or soul, and/or supernatural phenomena.

Atheists can't really be painted with a broad brush stroke - there are so many variations and nuances to their belief systems. The only thing they have in common is that they do not believe in the existence of God. Of course, the loudest and most vocal ones are the ones that sell books, grab headlines, and tend to speak in very black and white terms. But , in reality, atheism as a belief system is complex and than stereotypes would lead one to assume.

I can understand their frustrations, in some ways. As a Christian I am often lumped into an unfortunate stereotype - people assume it means XY and Z about me.

a reply to: Darkblade71

Not all of us, lol. I've seen a number of atheists take the warpath and I couldn't honestly tell you what they might think that serves. People are people and everybody has their own way of doing things. I tend to prefer a soft and respectful approach personally and do not aim to proselytize my own non-belief. Inform of my view or the way I see things as an atheist? Sure. Mock another for their differing beliefs? Never. It's the same thing that I tell my children. What they chose to believe or not believe is a matter of their heart and mind--not mine. I'd only step in if a cult was involved, lol.

I can tell you what happens when an atheist is confronted by something seeming inexplicable--hard stares and trying to figure out everything it isn't. Mine lingered for a few minutes and I didn't run. I studied it, memorized it, looked about the room for what could've caused the phenomena. Where I might differ is what I attribute to it being. I don't know what it was and I'm perfectly fine with saying that I don't know what it was. It didn't announce to me that it was a ghost, demon, or even something animate. It was just a large massive super dark shadow blob in a bright lit room. I'm also perfectly fine with stating that there is much that neither I or in a collective we as humanity know in this world. It could be that there are things that our own eyes cannot normally perceive unless the conditions are just right that we've tried to explain in ways not unlike lightning and Zeus.

I'm perfectly okay with saying I don't know and comprehending my own ignorance. Would I like an explanation? Yep but I would like a concrete explanation without potentially false attribution. People are often too quick to dismiss this kind of phenomena and it doesn't serve our pursuit of knowledge.

a reply to: VegHead

Pretty much. I wouldn't call myself a spiritual atheist. I'm pretty scientifically minded 99.9% of the time (hell I often think in graphs and statistics lol). I just am also aware that our knowledge of the universe that we live in from the smallest point (which is probably infinite) to the largest (which is also probably infinite) most likely doesn't even make up more a fraction of 1% of what exists.

a reply to: WhiteAlice

Awesome answer.
Thanks for explaining it a little.

One of the guys that was with the 2nd time we went had the same approach. As an atheist he couldn't explain what was going on, and it was a head scratcher for him, but it was not enough to push him either way.

it was fun to listen to him talk about it though.
It did have him perplexed.

Just to clarify,
I just wanted to show what I got and experienced there.
I am not trying to change or disturb anyone's belief systems for or against.

I had personal reasons for going,
having to do with my own experiences in life and a curiosity about hauntings and what I might experience with them.

I don't consider the photos evidence of anything other than me going there, although they certainly are interesting.
Personal experiences there were varied, and that was what I wanted to experience, so the pictures are just what they are,
whatever they are...lol

The knocks, the feelings, seeing something in the dark and my minds eye,
these are the things that were important for me personally.

a reply to: Darkblade71

I imagine he did a whole lot of head scratching. Another atheist who has had interest in paranormal is actually Corey Taylor of Slipknot/Stone Sour. He actually wrote a full book on the subject of the paranormal as an atheist. I actually talked about my experience the other day on another thread here if you'd like to read it. Just look for the ghost story thread. My experience was what some would call a full haunt and I spent a good while trying to sort it out. I still am trying to find explanations for much of it. I've had a few experiences with the paranormal but several I am bound by tribal taboo to not discuss.

Some atheists, I think, still suffer from a fear of the unknown and are uncomfortable with it. Others do not fear it but instead, it is the linchpin of their non-belief.

a reply to: coastlinekid

Skeptics will always explain things away. Even if confronted by a ghost directly they will tend to think it must be a hallucination.

Spirits don't usually bother anyway, whats the point to wasting the energy on them?

That could be why some in a room see something while others don't.

Been there…