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originally posted by: Char-Lee
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
Why the need for complicating things? It need only be simple.
originally posted by: Char-Lee
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
Ahhh I see
Because you are having fun!
originally posted by: Bleeeeep
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
Jews do not have understanding of Jesus, so they would not understand that verse.
What the verse means is that the soul lives by sight [of words].
Source: biblehub.com...
...known to Bedouin in Sinai Peninsula; a juice exuding in heavy drops from twigs (some say also the leaves) of ˆarfa (ˆªrfa) tree (tamarix gallica mannifera) in West Sinai Peninsula, end of May and in June, sweet, sticky, honey-like
Words are the fruits or bodies of awareness just as my words here are the body of my awareness which I am giving to you - the words are sensation. Without something to sense or (the will/spirit) to (manifest/breathe) them, the (soul/awareness) (sleeps/is dead).
As for humans, to make fruit is to (produce/will) (images/bodies) worthy of God. Malachi 2:15, Colossians 1:10
What's happening is God is reproducing his awareness byway of Jesus so we can produce good fruits with him and for him. It is something like teaching us to use his will, well.
originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
There are quite a few Jews who are also Christians in the world.
Not sure I follow you?
originally posted by: Bleeeeep
originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
There are quite a few Jews who are also Christians in the world.
I was speaking of Jews by faith, not by race. Unless you mean to tell me that there are people who practice both faiths, faithfully? If you know Jesus you pretty much have to accept that he is Christ, and to be a Christian you have to follow Christ?
Jewish Christians, also Judeo-Christians, were the original members of the Jewish movement that later became Christianity.[1] In the earliest stage the community was made up of all those Jews who accepted Jesus as a venerable person or even the messiah, and was thus equivalent to all Christians.[1] As Christianity grew and evolved, Jewish Christians became only one strand of the early Christian community, characterised by combining the confession of Jesus as Christ with continued adherence to Jewish practices such as Sabbath observance and observance of the Jewish calendar, observance of Jewish laws and customs, circumcision, and synagogue attendance, and a direct genetic relationship to the earliest Jewish Christianity.[1]
Not sure I follow you?
Indeed. You're overlooking something very simple. Try to see that all bodies are the body of an awareness. See that a tree looks as a tree does based on its awareness of the will/spirit that it invokes/produces.
See that similar looking animals share the same awareness of spirits/will and that is why they look similar, etc. Then read the bible again and take notice each time you see Word, light, body, fruit, etc.
In accordance with a former promise the old man likewise put into our hands a small quantity of the manna of the peninsula famous at least as being the successor of the Israelitish manna though not to be regarded as the same substance According to his account it is not produced every year sometimes only after five or six years and the quantity in general has greatly diminished It is found in the form of shining drops on the twigs and branches not upon the leaves of the Turfa Tamarix Gallica mannifera of Ehrenberg from which it exudes in consequence of the puncture of an insect of the coccus kind Coccus manniparus of the same naturalist 1 What falls upon the sand is said not to be gathered It has the appearance of gum is of a sweetish taste and melts when exposed to the sun or to a fire
I found these vids (by Rav Michael Laitman, PhD.) informing in the study of *the entirety* of this topic (the language of branches). It is such an interesting topics with varied interpretations it would take a lifetime (and then some) to learn about the theories, not to mention achieving actually being able to 'see the light'. Text
But to say I am into Kabbalah, well, that's a long shot. I do find it intriguing and interesting though, and have an open mind towards it, but the field is so vast and endless that I hardly know where to start. So I thought I'd try and start off here, with the Tree of Life, numbers and letters. Enjoy!
originally posted by: new_here
a reply to: Utnapisjtim
I really enjoyed/appreciated your post. I particularly liked the tie-in of what Jesus said about God's spoken words, with the "utterances" of God in the first chapter of Genesis.
Also, the tree diagram reminded me of a chakra-related image I've seen but cannot seem to locate just now.
But back to Genesis. Quite by accident (b/c it was not your intent) I began to see that list of utterances in Genesis Ch. 1, as something entirely different than I ever have before. I began to see the metamorphosis of a mind, from the Spark of Life at fertilization ("Let there be light") ...to rapidly growing cells of the Zygote/Blastocyte ("Let there be an expanse.") ...to implantation into the uterine wall ("Let dry land appear") ...to differentiation of cells into organs/limbs/brain, etc ("Let the earth sprout vegetation") **the womb being the Earth.
Then, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens” = Firing of neurons in the brain, thoughts, feelings, etc.
“Let the waters [and the sky] swarm with [life]” = Movement of the fetus in the amniotic fluid, and "sky" referring to mind.
I could go on, but it is somewhat of a diversion from your premise? (Unless it isn't, lol.)
In any case I have had a fun mind trip on this. Thanks!
originally posted by: new_here
Also, the tree diagram reminded me of a chakra-related image I've seen but cannot seem to locate just now.