Professional cheerleading 'should be abolished'

originally posted by: beezzer


What do you all think about prostitution?

Somebody has to do it.

a reply to: beezzer

The "critics" are probably ugly, fattish liberal women who secretly dream of being cheerleaders but can't, so they have to "level the playing field" as liberals love to do. Just a theory.

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: beezzer

It's supposed to be a free country. If there is a "market" for such a thing and if there is a supply of women to fill the roles and they have no problem with it. Then what is the problem?

Oh, wait, some butthoale who thinks he knows how I should live my life is all about taking away my freedom of choice.

This is why you cannot by a 32 oz coke in NYC. You have to buy 2 16oz cokes... freaking morons!!!

This kind of thinking is not the sole providence of liberal or conservative, but rather belongs to specific members of each. Those who do not believe in freedom deep down in their hearts.

Those who would be despots, if given a chance.

Quoted for truth! And I feel the same about prostitution. I'm sick to death of people telling others how to behave and live their lives. Butt out! Leave me alone! Cheerleaders don't hurt a soul! If I want to dance and jump and shake my stuff and get paid for it, it's no one's business!

~ A former cheerleader.

I don't think it should be banned. I think they should be paid more, because despite what a lot of people want to say, cheerleaders are athletes. And athletes are paid a large amount of money.


It gives the image of subservience the same as pole dancing. Oh, but that's 'liberating.'

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope

Cheerleading is an institution of mediocrity and insipidness.

But what would mediocre and insipid women do?

I would ban stupid people too but I don't think we can! :p

originally posted by: beezzer
What do you all think about prostitution?

It's their choice, their bodies...

Imagine if every man out there that pays for those types of service would suddenly be in dire need of sex?
It would be hell.

The amounts asked for the jobs are relative to the workers need, the self respect and the attractiveness of the client.
Now that's what I call free marketing!

a reply to: beezzer

What do you all think about prostitution?

It should be legal and in similar practice to what has been done in Amsterdam.
If someone chooses to do that - then let them, their going to do it anyway. The same is true for pornography and in American culture seems a right of passage for untalented females going for stardom.
This goes for both sexes also and anyone who has looked at this will know MEN make more money, offering themselves as GAY prostitutes then females ever will as straight bedfellows. It just seems to be more of a religious thorn then anything else.

It's only sex and sexuality, really is it that bad?

originally posted by: beezzer
What do you all think about prostitution?

And your thoughts on this?

What ?!! A man can't have his weekly eye candy. It's time to grease some feminists (i mean lesbians) hands or better yet make 'em disappear.

originally posted by: LesMisanthrope
Cheerleading is an institution of mediocrity and insipidness. It should be banned.

So, everything YOU think is mediocre and insipid should be disallowed?

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: beezzer
What do you all think about prostitution?

And your thoughts on this?

I think women should be free to do what they want. It's the illegality of prostitution that brings in all the aspects of crime.

It is a victimless activity when done between two consenting adults.

I think most who don't like cheerleaders, or even prostitution, argue that it "objectifies" women.

ob·jec·ti·fy
/əbˈjektəˌfī/
verb

verb: objectify; 3rd person present: objectifies; past tense: objectified; past participle: objectified; gerund or present participle: objectifying
express (something abstract) in a concrete form.
"good poetry objectifies feeling"
•degrade to the status of a mere object.
"a deeply sexist attitude that objectifies women"

I don't think it does, in my humble opinion.

Who are these critics? They can kiss my butt. I wish they'd just butt out of sports. They're ruining it. I am sick and tired of turning on football and instead of simple, Madden-esque commentary on what just happened in the current game or actual analysis of the teams, I get an earful of the latest social activist BS. If I wanted that, I'd go read a blog or watch the 24-hour news.

Add, Ray Rice did not beat up his fiancée because there were cheerleaders.

a reply to: beezzer

If a person has sex with someone for free - that's OK!
But if money is involved it's wrong!?!

That's like saying if I need a friend to talk to - it's OK!
But if I give them money for their time it's wrong!?!

Or if I want a massage from some stranger, if it's free it's ok!
Again, if I give them money for their services it's wrong!?!

Sounds like an old tax law passed by religious inquisitors.

Objectifying works both ways also. Ford and Chevy would go out of business if it didn't.

a reply to: AnteBellum

You're right.

If a single person spent 100 dollars on dinner then 50 on a movie, then had sex with their date, it'd be okay.

If you skip the dinner/movie and just fork over 150 dollars and have sex, it is illegal.

If women want to become cheerleaders, then that is their right also. Arbitrary "morality" or arbitrary "feminist" determinations have more to do with dictating their sense of morality than just allowing people to self-determine.

Traditionally they used to wear smart uniforms; pleated miniskirt and a top with short sleeves or full length sleeves . Now they seem to have gone down to wearing bikinis or showing off their midriffs. Looking at those fancy-dress costumes stores, the traditional look is now parodied, while the skimpy uniforms are now seen as standard.

Do they even pay most cheerleaders?

“I wasn’t one to voice my opinion,” she says. But in January, Ferrari learned that an Oakland Raiders cheerleader named Lacy T. had sued her team in California court, alleging she was illegally underpaid. (The women often go by first name and last initial to protect against stalkers.) “You don’t make any money,” Lacy told HBO’s Real Sports. “You’re better off serving beer and hot dogs in the concession stand.” Compared with Ferrari’s deal with the Jills, Lacy’s contract was generous: $125 per game for two preseason and eight regular season games.

Caitlin Ferrari
Photograph by Marcelo Gomes for Bloomberg Businessweek
Caitlin Ferrari
“Once I saw that case come out, it really stuck in my head—I’m not the only one,” says Ferrari. A Cincinnati Bengals cheerleader brought a suit in February

www.businessweek.com...


125 a game?

originally posted by: stormcell
Traditionally they used to wear smart uniforms; pleated miniskirt and a top with short sleeves or full length sleeves . Now they seem to have gone down to wearing bikinis or showing off their midriffs. Looking at those fancy-dress costumes stores, the traditional look is now parodied, while the skimpy uniforms are now seen as standard.

I don't know how it is or has been for professional cheerleaders, but I was a cheerleader in high school and we had our skirts, and the top we had the bottom of it touched the top of the skirt, and we had an under armor type long sleeved shirt we wore under our uniform top.

I've seen a couple high schools dress their girls like professional cheerleaders and it just baffles me... I mean... They're just kids.

a reply to: beezzer

I agree with this. Sadly, more often than not, this is forced upon people due to economic strain. If it was simple choice instead? Sure. Why not?

It is legal in Nevada.

Who am I to judge?

I have no problem with prostitution. It's pimping that should be illegal.

I support the right of a person to do whatever they want with themselves and consenting others. It's when some one who brings nothing to the table except physical or social power takes the lions share of the benefit and reduces a viable option to a desperate and dangerous practice with very little upside that I see a problem.
Enter male dominated sports, big money competition leagues and cultural institutions that would slut-shame these women if they weren't acting as a draw for other people's agendas.