Are Most Extraterrestrials Native Animal Life From A Future Earth That Has Evolved After Humanity's

originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: OrionsGem

If there's any truth to your hypothesis, the sentient animals from the future are probably the future generations of chimeras that we Humans have created, or will create soon.

This is all very similar to the 'planet of the apes' plot line...Humanity creates hybrid or chimera animals, make them more intelligent, and generally more anthropomorphic...and perhaps it is they, our dubious creations that turn on us and take over the Earth?

Maybe we are killed off by them...as in this scenario at some point in the future these creatures discover or innovate dimensional travel using technologically advanced craft (they are the 'ET' and pilot the 'UFOs')...maybe they realised their ancestors (in our future) shouldn't have made us extinct and are coming back in an attempt to recreate our species?

Or, the other side of that coin is that perhaps they are coming back 'terminator style' and making sure we are wiped out by coming back to our time and starting the extinction of our species early!

Interesting hypothesis...the only fly in the ointment is that we'll probably never know one way or the other.

Yes! The terminator style option is plausible IMO....as is humans creating hybrids that eventually turn on us....those damn oppose-able thumbs are so powerful!!!

OG

a reply to: OrionsGem

They'd have to be careful though...if they terminated us 'in the past', they might not exist themselves if they get rid of us before we actually create them!

(unless an entirely new and separate dimension is spontaneously created / generated to handle the resulting paradox?)

If not, that could mean we are beavering away in secret genetics labs around the world and creating the first generations of intelligent chimeras right now...a beaver hybrid?

originally posted by: MysterX
a reply to: OrionsGem

They'd have to be careful though...if they terminated us 'in the past', they might not exist themselves if they get rid of us before we actually create them!

(unless an entirely new and separate dimension is spontaneously created / generated to handle the resulting paradox?)

If not, that could mean we are beavering away in secret genetics labs around the world and creating the first generations of intelligent chimeras right now...a beaver hybrid?

mmm beaver....mmmm...

Anyways YES the key words here being Branching Timelines this way the time travel paradox is solved....

originally posted by: OrionsGem
Think about it...we have heard reports of Ets looking like all kinds of animals.

There have been reports of the Grays being related to dolphins and whales, the frontal lobes, the paralyzing sonar...

Reptilians have been reported that bear close physical resemblances to current and past reptiles and dinosaur (raptors)

Among the less reported sightings are Cat like humanoid beings, basically a human like body with a cat head link

How about the Carians? They are supposedly avian humanoid bird like beings...
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And how can we forget about all the mantis and insect like aliens that are reported during abductions...
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What Im getting at is this...What if the meek really do inherit the earth? What if humans end up killing eachother into extinction....and after eons the native animal and even plant life evolves into intelligent sentient beings, who develop time travel and come back to our time in order to study us??

Perhaps we are the dinosaur fossils a millennium from now???

Thoughts?

OG

The only thing I want to contribute is this: Having been an abductee, I do not believe the greys come from ANYTHING besides something similar to homo sapiens.

If I were to imagine humans evolving within the next million years, I could VERY likely see them evolving into the greys. The greys have smaller chins, and bigger craniums than we currently have, which is how WE evolve. Throughout mankinds evolution, our chins have gotten smaller, so have the rest of our facial features, like our brow ridges, our noses, etc. The thing getting BIGGER is our heads, our craniums.

In fact, that is how intelligence is determined in animals that are extinct. The size of their brain is compared to the weight/size of the rest of their bodies....and scientists use that method to determine the intellect of extinct animals (dinosaurs).

The other notable features of the Greys, such as their eyes, could VERY WELL be evolutionary adaption to their environment. I imagine two likely scenarios could have caused their eyes to become that big and black....either having to go underground, or hundreds and thousands plus of generations out in SPACE, in space crafts (or perhaps even in other dimensions that lack the type of light we have).



Anyway, thanks for this thread. I find evolution itself an EXTREMELY interesting, and puzzling phenomena. I love studying the evolution of man, and the creatures on this planet. How it happens, why it happens, exactly WHAT changes occur, biologically, physically, in appearance, mentally, emotionally, etc.

based on whats going on at the moment in the news, especially in the middle east and with Russia, I cannot say I am entirely optimistic about mans future. If anyone or anything inherits the earth, it will most likely be either insects or another species, but if thats the case, they will have a very messy earth to clean up first. I suspect we are being observed like lab rats at the moment. Many species swinging by to keep tabs on how we are killing each other, while cooking the planet at the same time. I no longer have access to the Science Channel show on Science Channel, but just this past Tuesday they did an episode about et's who have been seen around our military installations worldwide, and especially our nuclear facilities. In some cases as we know the ufo's have turned off our weapons. As it relates to worldwide issues I am thinking the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. I hope I am wrong. Wars accomplish nothing. Maybe we will get a species like from the one Michael Rennie played on " The Day The Earth Stood Still" at some point soon, who will give us a SERIOUS ultimatum. Basically get your # togther or be destroyed.

If the greys are the result and by product of countless millennial of gene splicing, then who knows. Maybe they have every animal gene in their dna, and might be loosing their sentience in way, like a werewolf succumbs to lycantrophy. Maybe they have a feral instinct with technology?

Some say they are related to insects, other say cheap machinery, many say future humans.
If they are related to insects, then they wouldn't be fragile at all. Exoskeleton would be great for protecting their large brains which seem squishy, and some insects are resistant to radiation due to their exterior. Hell, if they looked like that tall E.T from that Steven Spielberg film, a gust of wind would knock that creature down, and large brain would go SPLAT!

Also, humans in general for the past few generations have been getting bigger in general, whether this is because of the food hormones, or how our knowledge of health has vastly changed. Greys are usually believed to be little munchkins, almost like Dwarves from LOTR. Short, stocky, and works.

As far Einstein concerned, we will be around alot longer then the universe.

originally posted by: Nowyouseeme
a reply to: OrionsGem

Cool idea, but unlikely in my opinion. It's my humble opinion that any life that was, is and will be sufficiently advanced even to rival us will be descended from Primates...

Well, the primates from which we descended were themselves descended from shrew-like and sloth-like creatures (and not really that long ago, considering the total age of the earth).

a reply to: supermarket2012

One thing I heard about their eyes is that the greys are born with red eyes, and that they then perform a surgery to install the black covering layer on top of their eyes...in an almost traditional sense, similar to a circumcision on our human babys...

OG

a reply to: data5091

Yes im pretty certain its the USA that will be ABSORBING a nuclear first strike from russia.

OG

a reply to: Specimen

Specimen,

yes thats a very interesting take, I have often wondered how they dont just crumble under the weight of their giant heads in our gravity...perhaps they bring their own environment with them?

OG

a reply to: OrionsGem

Dwarfs. Short, stubborn, inventive, and never tires....Also can't tell the difference from male and female.

Thats what I was wondering, our skeleton is in the inside of our bodies, and if we are left in space to long, the muscle become more like spaghetti, which is why astronauts have to exercise every day. The only benefit from this is that it stretchs the spine, due to gravity no longer condensing it. Same thing happens when a person gets out of bed, they are actually taller then when they went to sleep.

I wonder what zero gravity does to insects if they were exposed to it for a long time. Might not effect them all, since their exoskeleton might not stretch. Insects are tough because of this.

If a human was the size of an insect, and flicked, the human would go splat ether from the flick, or when it hits the ground. Insect will forget about like it was Jesus turning the other cheek.

And if an insect was human size, like a Hercules beetle for example, it could easily pick up a tank.

a reply to: OrionsGem

Interesting premise OP, to add consider cosmic radiation like influences Panspermia or STAR delivered being the catalyst for universal evolution. So Asteroid/Comet fly bys or impacts providing genetic and or Soul/Spirit/Internal Energy upgrades with the products they give off or carry or the nearest STAR of universal inhabitants over certain time periods sending high charged particles to upgrade enhance...

Some of the hypothesized beings may even already be terrestrial now but avoid in mass human contact.

NAMASTE*******

originally posted by: Ophiuchus 13
a reply to: OrionsGem

Interesting premise OP, to add consider cosmic radiation like influences Panspermia or STAR delivered being the catalyst for universal evolution. So Asteroid/Comet fly bys or impacts providing genetic and or Soul/Spirit/Internal Energy upgrades with the products they give off or carry or the nearest STAR of universal inhabitants over certain time periods sending high charged particles to upgrade enhance...

Some of the hypothesized beings may even already be terrestrial now but avoid in mass human contact.

NAMASTE*******

Yea Ive always thought our sun, when ready, would send out waves of photonic energy, which would interact with our DNA and re-strand it to achieve the original 12 strands....upgrading us to light beings...

Who knows...maybe this is why we have 12 months in the year, to pay tribute to the original 12 strands of DNA that we once had. Deep goes the rabbit hole is. (5 points for Yoda reference)

OG

a reply to: OrionsGem

In part direct memories, Mars and lyra and The Equality is my soul journey. Not sure I walked the long path manually, through systems, or just come in for troubled times as Dolores Cannon suggest in her regressions sessions, that some answer the call. I don't know, but the key points in my recollection relate to dire situations, such as Lyra fleeing planetary destruction and Mars. Or perhaps only highlights stood out.

The Source part was related to energy recognition. Someone sent me a video of a motivational light speaker interviewed by a major alternative interview site, and I saw her as Sirius feline. And this started becoming apparent to me in those with rather strong aura's or energy. That opened up due to my close friend who was Native and Scottish and who remembers Egypt and past lives. Very psi and has oobe's, and she phoned me up for a sighting when I wasn't awake to my experiences yet because they were checking on my awareness. The craft was a saucer with a see through top directly over her property, maybe 50 feet up, and she was interacting with them, I saw an unexplained light, soundless but wasn't awake, down the mountain from our house. She would say nutty things such as, there are lions guarding our property, and talk about seeing them with her Insight when she opened the cupboards, and in the yard. And also, she put a picture of Sekmet on her bedroom wall.

Well, her grandson came to visit at 16 when we moved to the coast. He was informed by my oldest son, a skeptic, that we thought we had sitings. He had just moved back from college to the coast otherwise he may have witnessed too, what all my kids witnessed. Now he thought that would put us down, but instead the grandson was so relieved because he had experiences himself and his father had sightings. They were AB- by the way.

And due to his presence we had some major events take place. Won't go into all the details, it takes too long to share the ongoing experiences. BUT, we both ended up with spontaneous scoop marks that were to the bone nearly, and took a long time to heal. His was 2, I had 1. We had both gone inside because he was downloaded with a protection mode, they weren't allowed his DNA, so some kind of protection. It doesnt work. Earth forces of some group versus greys. Greys win. Scoop marks appeared. He had one heal instantly after going into shock because we suddenly felt the stings and blood trickling.

I wrote to a friend in Finland with military background and he said the only way they would do a protection was if he was AB- because they're not allowed that DNA. Well, it doesnt work.

This went on for days and he woke up and remembered things that put my jaw on the ground, he was feline from Sirius. He was stuck in earth tests he called it, world without end, that this time he intended to start to do his work at a certain point, as an adult, and that he was determined to grow up, to grow his consciousness, as he put it, hundreds of thousands of times his current size. Ie, thats your soul orb growing from acorn or tennis ball size to Ascended and regaining your true Higher Self again or at least fuller self.

He was writing to my friend in Finland who he didn't know and they were writing a different language.

Anyway, so much happened I won't go into but he kept saying his people watched over him and he was so grateful that they did this and that they were on their way. This happened in July 2009. I found this about 2 years ago and sent it to his grandmother and she's been listening to all of James Gillilands interviews and all of Project Camelot and really really woke up more.


James Gilliland on contact with higher dimensional beings

I took it this group was the ones he kept saying were on their way! Would be here soon. He believed they would protect him from the pirate greys who really wanted his DNA.

So he woke up for a while. What stayed in my memory was the recognition of his energy profile. So I can now sense that my ex is also a feline, that James Gilliland himself has that energy so some time was spent in those worlds.
I could also already see in my father's aura a kind of lizzie tail, like a little dino. And his energy matches, my family was all about opposite energies. Mom/Me/Grandpa were the Equality and strong human. My father has Egypt Slaver stamped all over him and a kind of karmic relationship to me, where I intend to bring him kicking and screaming back home because now its personal, we're blood and he's family and he's going to revert to giving, and helping his grandchildren. But not here, no more earth zones thank you. No learning in bad ways no need for lower dimensional schools. No slavers. We're to learn in positive ways.

a reply to: Unity_99

Wow Unity, thanks for sharing all these experiences...tell me how does one find out if their soul came from the stars....how can I figure out what or who I really am?

OG

a reply to: OrionsGem

You can grow your insight and awareness. We're taught to not seek within, not meditate and not develop your psi abilities, by the Church and authorities who geniunely perceive the dangers therein, to their power base. However what blows this out of the waters of demonology is that children are born very psi and with soul memories. And God doesnt make mistakes. So, meditate. And give yourself permission, write it down, say it before sleep or meditation, to wake up, to remember, to grow your consciousness, to start to overcome weaknesses and do the work you came to do, to love others. Say its an honor to love them, to be here even if its hard at times, just to be close and love them. Thank You. Beam love and gratitude at the team.

Meditate and sungaze (safely morning and sunset, not midday, and just let the sun in the corners of your eye, like you do with a light therapy lamp, for 10-15 minutes). Also you can meditate under the stars, when its pleasant to do so, not too cold or windy or rainy. And you can pour out Gratitude to any Hero's and just amazed at the wonderful planets that must exist as another experiencer on ATS shared in her encounters, Babies don't even cry due to the telepathy and their needs being met in advance. Eutopias.

Even if you think, well there are bad sides. Yes there are. Be a good match. Ie. work on self to be more kind and helpful and less ego based as much as possible, and like unto like, thats how it works. When you're harming others seriously and really disconnected to your inner self, you get a fallen state where permissions can be given for the wrong side to access. However, good people do have bad things happen, so some of this is Faith and Gratitude and trust in Goodness overhead. That things that won't further the work to do, won't happen. That you'll have the right timing and be able to wake up and help others better.

So a good heart under the stars, and just pour out the wishes for a safe, free world, dolphins and whales protected from toxins, third world free from war and dominating religions and poverty injustice. Things that matter, pour them out and not just expecting a rescue unless it turns out that is all thats left. But if the sun still comes up and we're still going, it seems to me life is telling us, we have more work to do, so its more just, what can I do? Report for duty! Just want to help wake people up or do my bit. I don't want to let Family above or family here down.

Practice meditation, remote viewing. Online many self hypnosis and theta. Theta is good. You can find something you like on youtube or scripts for hypnosis online, and find a pure 1 hour theta, or 2. And rewrite the script your way up, and record it with a free audacity program and layer the theta in and just practice.

I believe anyone can get some insight happening. Dream some informative dreams, or get a memory jogged. Maybe a video does it like my ones.

But here's the thing, don't think everyone should be volunteering for abduction. Think the metaphysics, waking up, getting on task, maybe getting intuitive and developing consciousness and Source/God/Higher Self contact and guidance is really to me, JACKPOT of life. Et is weird and alarming. Doesnt mean I'm not grateful for the wakeups.

One of the things about ufology that most don't understand. There is no nuts and bolt cool dry scientific ufology research that is acceptable and then the new age or bizarre personal accounts others look down upon.

Ets don't do things the cool nuts and bolt way, and its in the personal subjective and odd accounts that they communicate. Because there is this disconnect occurring between what they want to fob off as ufology and how it really goes down amongst grass roots people, its almost like ET is on a higher plane conducting their own secret work, waking people up, and its taking place under the noses of the suppressor teams or black ops, though they manage to downplay it and make the real experiencers look bad. It just doesn't work that way, its in these odd moments that you get answers to life, breakthroughs in your own lessons and why you're here, and the doors fly open in the box you're in. And that was what it was all about after all. At least for the plus side of things.

So really go within and work on gaining insight. Chakra meditations. Detoxing the pineal. Love, laughter, hugs, nature walks, excercise and doing things that activate right hemisphere such as water color crayons or painting, music or poetry.

And find ways to share or give to others.

a reply to: Unity_99

When was the last time you were physically taken aboard a craft? What future predictions have you been given? Will there be a 3rd WW?

OG

I feel that they do not come from a possible future timeline, although it is an interesting hypotheses that you bring up. My feeling on the subject of these alien entities is that although they may have "characteristics" of various Earth species they are not from here.

Scales are not unique to reptiles, some mammals have them for protection and some reptiles have "fur-like" coatings. There's probably only so many ways life can evolve and if it does on a planet with a biosphere similar to ours than there would almost certainly be similarities in parallel evolution. Fur,scales,chitin,feathers,cold-blooded,warm-blooded,vertebrate,invertebrate...etc, they all have their uses and niches.

Unless the planets atmosphere is composed of elements other than oxygen,nitrogen,co2 or hosts extreme environments like crushing pressure or massive differences in temperature than there is only so many ways it can go. Without bipedalism/fairly upright stances how will creatures evolve to the point where they can use starships or even mechanical devices?

Lets say a four imbed dinosaur a velociraptor or something similar developed the opposable thumb, and achieved a great human like civilization. Destroying the environment for resources and there warlike hunter culture severely damaged the planet to the point they developed deep space travel and there only option to survive was to escape to outer space.

They succeeded and relocated to another planet and they maintained there technology, and thrived. They launched ships from this planet and today dominate the universe. Currently they can't return to earth the temperature is too low, the gravity is wrong, not enough oxygen in the atmosphere or a host of other problems.

Lets say they know how to terra form planets and lets say they are working behind the scenes manipulating corporations and the elite to use the fossil fuel technologies to terra form Earth. They could use the elite to both kill us off and to make Earth more habitual to Them.

The greys are humans survivors of this struggle attempting to harvest DNA from abductees, to fight off extinction. Nordics are genetic human soldiers created by the greys to fight against the dinosaurs!!

Apply Occam's Razor.

First you're asking two impossible things at once. Time travel, and intelligent animal species.

Remember the first 'non-human' species/beings reported back in the 1800s were elves and fairies and trolls - derived from folklore not real life. The next batch are just anthropomorphized from normal animal species. One of the original 'alien' pictures online was created in a photo-morph software (Kai's Power Tools) and shows up everywhere. Mostly, they are forms taken from media.

Some of the ones that are supposedly pre-media are laughable (Betty and Barney Hill's little creatures in military costumes).

So, interesting theory, but you have it backwards. I'd be more impressed if there were reports of truly alien creatures that don't look like any Earth species.