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originally posted by: ImDaMan
Thanks for the link, but, i'm not one to buy into government websites or experts. They have a bad habit of telling us things that aren't true.
You all in aviation seem to be confused as to the science behind these lingering contrails. Like i said, i know what i've observed, over the past 6 years; but something has changed, recently. My guess is that they just stopped spraying, for whatever reason. I'm waiting for them to kick it up again, tho'.
originally posted by: defcon5
originally posted by: ImDaMan
originally posted by: defcon5
Can also be seasonal schedule/route changes.
but someone else came along and tried to tell you that what you saw, wasn't what you saw, how would you react?
Oh, you mean like how you chemtrail believers are constantly trying to tell us aviation employees how chemtrails are real, when many of us have seen the aircraft that we have loaded leaving persistent contrails themselves, and know for a fact its a natural occurrence? Or questioning my presenting you with a fact that there are seasonal, and even yearly changes to flight schedules and routes? Or that things like runway closures, noise abatement, or other changes to traffic patterns might have moved a once traveled route over your house to somewhere else?
Sorry to say, we're still in the summer, so what was your point??? And, as i've mentioned, lingering contrails happened ALL YEAR ROUND. Seasons didn't matter. Not the summer, not the winter. They were the same persisting contrails, ALL YEAR ROUND. And, really, it shouldn't matter since the temps at 30,000 are pretty constantly below zero.
originally posted by: mikell
Welcome to fall or spring depending on where you live. The weather changes contrails come contrails go chemtrails only in the mind of the believer.
Speaking of religion I have a new Lutheran church just down the street and they play the nicest sounding bells that last for 15 minutes after 6 every night. Now that's a religion with something nice to enjoy unlike chemtrailers.
I'm guessing, these trails effects certain areas differently? Past weather, here, has been cloudy and cool. Certainly not like it's been for the past month. Totally opposite. I've read so many chemtrail topics, i got tired of reading about them. I made this thread because it's weird not to see those lingering trails. Even weirder going to bed in shorts and not sweats.
originally posted by: fingerbang
a reply to: ImDaMan
www.abovetopsecret.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Air Force to dismantle HAARP station read this a couple months ago, maybe a correlation?
I live the Colorado Springs area in Colorado and I've noticed the same thing. Usually our skies are teaming with trails running all over it. This summer however there's been hardly any. Not to mention the odd weather we've been having. Last couple summers have been dirt dry yet this year we get rain damn near everyday. I don't know purely theoretically but makes ya wonder if there might be a few connections
Thought the "weather" had nothing to do with it? Thought where these "things" formed had their own atmospheric conditions unlike what is at lower elevations. Well that was always the explanation
originally posted by: Bilk22
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originally posted by: 8675309jenny
a reply to: ImDaMan
Weather patterns are constantly changing.
I remember as a kid in SFL seeing contrails, but now it's rarely cold enough for them here. Also up until 10years ago it was rare that we went a full year without a decent hurricane. It's now been 9seasons without a real hurricane hitting FL.
Strange.
The temps at ground level aren't the same as they are at 30,000 feet. I'm pretty sure the temps at that altitude are constant.
The average adiabatic lapse rate (how cold it gets with altitude) is 0.65 Celsius per 100 meters or 3 F per 1,000 ft. The average temperature on earth is 15 C (59 F). At 30,000 ft, the temperature is then: 59 - (3 x 30) = -31 F or -35 C.
That's what they kept telling us. Now, what excuse will they make? And we're the "tards"? lol
originally posted by: Bilk22
Thought the "weather" had nothing to do with it? Thought where these "things" formed had their own atmospheric conditions unlike what is at lower elevations. Well that was always the explanation
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: ImDaMan
Since the "spraying" stopped, there's been nothing but hot, clear, sunny days
You are making the connection in the wrong direction; the weather has been warmer and drier, making contrails less likely to form.
You all in aviation seem to be confused as to the science behind these lingering contrails.
Chemistry is a science. Don't see you cheering for it. So, who's living in a fantasy??? Do you know anything about "laws"; and no, i'm not talking about man-made ones. lol
originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ImDaMan
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Maybe you all could save up some of your posts so next year, when the same thread comes out, you can continue to ignore science and cling to the fantasy that is chemtrails.
Yes! There's been a change. Cloudy, cold days. Certainly not in the mid 80's, like it's been for the past month or so. I was wearing sweats during the summer. First time, in that long, since i've been able to wear summer clothes. You can believe what you want. You're entitled to that.
originally posted by: mrthumpy
originally posted by: ImDaMan
For the past 6 years, there's been a constant bombardment of lingering contrails, in my area
Every day, day after day for 6 years without change? sorry but I'm calling bs on that one.