Update: Congressman’s Office In Possession of 100,000 CDC Whistleblower Documents?

a reply to: wyrmboy12

Our society is built upon benefits that ignore the needs of those affected negatively by said benefits. So it's another example I'm gathering.

I'm certain many would think it's selfish of me but I'm aware that vaccines do have benefits. They've saved countless lives and have given scientists the time to figure out the inner workings of these illnesses.

But, as a person who I'm 90% certain has been affected by these vaccines, I'm in an ethical quandary.

Conspiracies aside, they save lives and I consider myself to be a victim of the side effects like tons of other people.

So are these vaccines lifesavers and we should somehow figure out how to make them safer for the masses or are they simply ways to cause damage and possibly something even more sinister? I'm in favor of the latter.

Id be willing to bet some of those docs are worth a lot of bribe.....

Totally agree. Polio is the champion of vaccinations i think and I don't disagree their use has beenfits, but to me it seems there is a better, completetly safe way to administer them without the heavy metals, formeldahyde, etc being present. I also agree that there is a sinister agenda behind them in this day and age.

To me all the vaccinations, GMO food, environmentalism movements, financial problems that never go away , etc,etc are all about getting the global death count going up, but they want everything you have to give first including scientific data to strengthen future attempts at whatever...The Georgia Guidestones want onkly 500 million people alive globally.....A lot of people need to die in order for that to happen and Good ole Mr Bill Gates is championing Vaccinations as 1 way to reduce population ( Direct quote from Him )

www.naturalnews.com...

Speaking of the Georgia Guidestones...Do you think any ole Joe could have a huge monument erected and say " I'm not providing any information that will identify who I am sorry " Clearly the state was in on that one. Same perpetrators, Same Agenda..Death...

Vaccines...first of all, ALL folks need to get a hold of the package inserts and read them thoroughly.

1) It states that vaccines DO NOT work for everyone. So what is the point? You risk the side effects from a vaccine laden with poisonous additives and you may still catch the illness and be able to pass it on to others...whether they are vaccinated or not. Doesn't make sense.
2) Vaccines are loaded with nasties..even anti freeze. We hide that from our pets but get it injected into our kids?
3)For religious reasons alone, vaccines should be something to ponder. Many contain human diploid cells/aborted fetal tissue.
4) From caveman days until the last 100 yrs. or so, the human race not only continued by grew without these vaccines.
5) The risks do not out weigh the benefits when it is your own child that goes from being a happy, healthy youngster to a child that cries/screams all day, is in constant pain, has seizures after his shots...is it worth it.
6) Gals that get the Gardisal (sp) vaccine...many become ruined for life with seizures and other health issues.

The number of kids who get autism from vaccines is still less than the potential number of victims of vaccine preventable illnesses. Look how Measles has spread like wildfire in communities just for having a slightly higher population of anti-vax fruitcakes. The risk is much, much higher.

originally posted by: wyrmboy12
Totally agree. Polio is the champion of vaccinations i think and I don't disagree their use has beenfits, but to me it seems there is a better, completetly safe way to administer them without the heavy metals, formeldahyde, etc being present. I also agree that there is a sinister agenda behind them in this day and age.

To me all the vaccinations, GMO food, environmentalism movements, financial problems that never go away , etc,etc are all about getting the global death count going up, but they want everything you have to give first including scientific data to strengthen future attempts at whatever...The Georgia Guidestones want onkly 500 million people alive globally.....A lot of people need to die in order for that to happen and Good ole Mr Bill Gates is championing Vaccinations as 1 way to reduce population ( Direct quote from Him )

www.naturalnews.com...

Speaking of the Georgia Guidestones...Do you think any ole Joe could have a huge monument erected and say " I'm not providing any information that will identify who I am sorry " Clearly the state was in on that one. Same perpetrators, Same Agenda..Death...

Certainly an agenda of some sort. I does beg the obvious question though of what next, what next is going to come crawling out from under the rock? this scientist has basically jumped ship, what other areas are establishments being economical with the baldy truth...geo-engineering perhaps? So much going on that ordinary people know nothing about but should.

a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

Same story for me. I got violently ill after taking the MMR vaccine and almost died afterward. Shortly after, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes and have had to live a very painful life due to the diabetes. I cannot say for sure if it was the vaccine, but I stongly suspect it. My mom wishes that they would have had the internet in 1985! She says she would have thought twice about getting THAT vaccine for me had she known otherwise, and I respect her for it.

originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: elementalgrove

The NIH mostly does a lot of research. The research is good. Now the conclusions drawn from it at the top, they may be corrupted but the people doing the research are not bad. I like their research, I wish I could get access to all of the article. I should do some investigating on getting full access

Start here:
www.nlm.nih.gov...

a reply to: links234

Of course your own discription is American Socialist, because socialists want to murder people. Let me get this straight, we know vaccines work. We used them 5000 years ago, the science is there. BUT, not all are safe, and they wilfully ignored this link to autism which killed thousands of young brains. So don't try to whitewash this here buddy, it won't work.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: elementalgrove

The NIH mostly does a lot of research. The research is good. Now the conclusions drawn from it at the top, they may be corrupted but the people doing the research are not bad. I like their research, I wish I could get access to all of the article. I should do some investigating on getting full access

Start here:
www.nlm.nih.gov...

That is interesting. It beats searching the net and adding NIH or NIMH to the search. I'm going to try to set that up again, I may need to get a newer operating system, Win 2000 doesn't have a lot of support for it anymore, I can't open certain types of files. I can't even download something to convert my DNA raw data to find if it can teach me anything. It can show me potential problems but that doesn't mean these problems are expressed or will ever get expressed.

Thanks for the link, I will try setting up an account. I have one at Organized Wisdom. That is an interesting place.

This is refreshing to see (the whistleblowing), but what is more disheartening is that there will be zero media outrage until their hand is forced by publicizing of any documents that implicate explicit knowledge by the DCD of these claims. We all (sadly) expect the government to lie to us, but when it comes to the health of our children, this is immoral at best and purposeful and illegal at worst.

I have a son who was literally just diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome--he grew up through age three living on a military post with all of their necessary vaccinations and whatnot. Pissed will not begin to describe how I'll be if these accusation are accurate, even if the MMR vaccine didn't cause his specific problems. I have an 8-month-old daughter we have on the 'delayed' vaccination schedule. Hopefully this information won't come out too late...

originally posted by: links234
Statement from the 'whistleblower':

I want to be absolutely clear that I believe vaccines have saved and continue to save countless lives. I would never suggest that any parent avoid vaccinating children of any race. Vaccines prevent serious diseases, and the risks associated with their administration are vastly outweighed by their individual and societal benefits.

This doesn't sound as groundbreaking as some people are making it out to be. He never once says there absolutely is a connection, further he says that the benefits far outweigh any potential risks.

It's easy for anyone to say that when it's not their child (or them) affected with the side effect. I'm sure scientists use the same thinking concerning the creation of the atom bomb--Hiroshima and Nagasaki citizens would tend to disagree. It's all about perpective, and when it comes to my children, it's preferable to me for them to get measles (easily treatable and temporary) than to play Russian Roulette with autism (not treatable and is life-long).

So, still want to claim his statement justifies the alleged cover-up? The point is that claiming these are completely safe and mandating them for schools and whatnot completely remove the individual's choice and ability to properly research what is being put into their body (forcibly, I might add). All we ask for is full disclosure so that we can choose, and not to be forced to do something that we don't want to do to our own--or our child's--body. If that doesn't just piss you off, methinks you may be suffering some vaccination side-effects that haven't been fully disclosed.

He doesn't have to release them. Now that the public knows he has them and what they contain a FOIA request can be submitted to force any hands which may not make them public.

Also, this guy isn't a whistle blower. He was recorded without his consent then subpoenad by congress based on those recordings.

a reply to: AllSourceIntel

Edit: drink spilling

originally posted by: mattifikation
The number of kids who get autism from vaccines is still less than the potential number of victims of vaccine preventable illnesses. Look how Measles has spread like wildfire in communities just for having a slightly higher population of anti-vax fruitcakes. The risk is much, much higher.

I am not sure where you get your info (made up I think)

But are you talking about the recent whooping cough outbreak in California? the one where all of the patients had already been vaccinated?

Throughout history most vaccines came in at times when other factors actually led to the lowering of disease.

In fact if you go find the articles from the times of the incidents, you will find most people who died of a disease were vaccinated for it. (you see they inject the disease in you in the vaccine, and you get it in many cases)

The polio vaccine - all the people who died were vaccinated.

a reply to: AmenStop

Whoa...before I really reply to you, I want to make sure I understand this correctly; people who died of polio were vaccinated first? Like...in the 19th century, when people died of polio...they were vaccinated first?

With all that is going on, one thought always creeps up when I hear stories like this. That thought is, we're paying these people?

Wilfull Blindness is an accurate term for those in charge that refuse to look explore all the evidence and hide evidence by choosing not to be aware of it, where they had a duty to know.

en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: links234
Statement from the 'whistleblower':

I want to be absolutely clear that I believe vaccines have saved and continue to save countless lives. I would never suggest that any parent avoid vaccinating children of any race. Vaccines prevent serious diseases, and the risks associated with their administration are vastly outweighed by their individual and societal benefits.

This doesn't sound as groundbreaking as some people are making it out to be. He never once says there absolutely is a connection, further he says that the benefits far outweigh any potential risks.

While that is true the issue that is 'groundbreaking' or rather important, is access and right to know the information for an overall, and better understanding, of the risks, benefits, and issues at hand by the individual and wider public.

originally posted by: raymundoko
He doesn't have to release them. Now that the public knows he has them and what they contain a FOIA request can be submitted to force any hands which may not make them public.

Also, this guy isn't a whistle blower. He was recorded without his consent then subpoenad by congress based on those recordings.

a reply to: AllSourceIntel

Edit: drink spilling

No he doesn't, but that would be the honourable thing to do instead of forcing the public to pay for it. I know he is not a whistleblower, didn't say he was.

Why is your drink spilling?

originally posted by: links234
a reply to: AmenStop

Whoa...before I really reply to you, I want to make sure I understand this correctly; people who died of polio were vaccinated first? Like...in the 19th century, when people died of polio...they were vaccinated first?

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