originally posted by: Fylgje
a reply to: CardiffGiant
Hendrix WAS over rated. There were many guitarists doing whammy bar stuff and over distorted sounds at the time. Hendrix wasn't an innovator like
guitarists like Edward Van Halen or Yngwie Malmsteen. He just wasn't. But I dig some of Hendrix' songs. But he was a sloppy player at times.
i totally agree.
im a fan of all sorts of players. i dig the 'sloppy' players. jack white. dan aeurbach. i dig them a lot.
of course hendrix could play but im so tired of hearing of how he was so awesome and innovative and how nobody was doing the stuff he was doing.
uuuh, frank zappa anyone? any number of the mothers auxiliary. how about ry cooder?
know what i mean...
i always hear stuff like 'oh hendrix and the wah wah... he was the first. he was the best'.... nope.
frank zappa introduced hendrix to it. showed him how to modulate and use it as a notch filter.
its not that i am not a fan of the grittier, sloppy style but for me, i am real big on musicianship and music theory.
just cause you are deep with the theory doesnt mean youre a shredder. zappas theory was off the map and never shred.
honestly, it wasnt hendrix who ruined hendrix for me. it was his fans and the magazines. its not his fault but when all the articles put him at de
fact #1... it bothers me. im not really a fan of the arbitrary 'best of' lists but i get a lot of mags coming to the house so i read them. could be
rolling stone.. could be guitar player. any of them. you read it and it will be hendrix at #1,,,
its like a loaded list and they always look a bit like this. not this is not exact but you get the idea
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1) JIMI henrix #9 kurt cobain
2) jimmy page #10 lenny krvits
3) eric clapton #11 whatever ramone
played
4)van halen #12 billy joe
5) pete townsend
6) gary moore
that crap gets deeper down the list. i see people like frank zappa and derek trucks, and gary moore floating low on the list but players like dave
grohl and john mayer are above them.
for me, the way i learned and what i listened to when i was younger has brought me to think that technique and a solid base of music theory.
its not that i dont listen to minimalist stuff or sloppy players. i like that stuff too. could listen all night.
when i hear people like frank zappa and guthrie govan and joe pass it changed my life.
for 1, i think hendrix would have been a hell of a lot better had he not jooined the 27 club. but as it is, hia body of work is not that big. i really
dont like the whole playing on stage with mescaline tucked into your bandana.
if hendrix was more a student of the theory and the relationships to the notes then i think would have played better.
i dont hate hendrix but i cant devote my ears to someone that is all slopped out on mescaline and booze, playing sloppy, setting his gear on fire. its
just not my bag.
about hendrix and the wah... from wiki
One of Hendrix's signature effects was the wah-wah pedal, which he first heard used with an electric guitar in Cream's "Tales of Brave Ulysses",
released in May 1967.[311] In July of that year, while playing gigs at the Scene club in New York City, Hendrix met Frank Zappa, whose band, the
Mothers of Invention were performing at the adjacent Garrick Theater. Hendrix was fascinated by Zappa's application of the pedal, and he experimented
with one later that evening
the same time hendrix was coming out frank was already playing. getting the mothers up and he put out crazy stuff.
i dont know if people just never got turned on to frank but he was doing stuff nobody was doing.
im not just talking about how sick he could play. im talking the composing. the arrangements. the mixing. all the handwritten notes for all the
players of the band and all their instruments.
he was experimenting with electronics in his guitar and mics when people were not doing that.
i know he intonated scott thunes bass at his audition.
he drilled holes and had pick ups and electronics put into ruth underwoods marimba...
just writing/arranging/playing amazing stuff.
thats pretty much my opinion on it.
just on freak out, zappas 1st record there was more than 31 instruments on it. he wrote all the music and all the lyrics. he also played his butt off.
lots of theory but the way he applied it sounded like nothing before it.
17 instruments on hot rats from 1969.
strings/reeds/percussion... all of it....and again...playing like a maniac.
well thats my piece. hendrix could play but i am over the hendrix is god garbage
edit on 7-9-2014 by CardiffGiant because: (no reason given)