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originally posted by: paxnatus
a reply to: NonsensicalUserName
waiting to actually have a strategy and a plan in place is a better way to go about things than just jumping into a conflict in a gung-ho manner.
BUT there is a strategic plan in place!!!! This I know based on first hand information...Obama is stalling and his stall tactics cost Jim Foley his life! We need to act now!! If we don't things in the MID EAST are gonna get a lot worse!
which is inevitably gonna draw many countries in to a boots on the ground WAR!! I personally do not want to see that happen! We in the US and UK face a growing threat everyday as long as these barbarians live!!
These guys know how to get the job done once and for all!!
Thanks for your reply....
Pax
Not a joke I am talking about how Obama bends over (both ways) to make sure he is politically correct....Please do not derail from the topic this is not about Muslims vs. anyone this is about Obama who is stalling on a huge problem with grave consequences!
Since you feel this is a problem in the Mid East only, i will tell you something...The Mid East has failed to contain these butchers and so guess what? These subhumans are spinning out of control! When you have men and women all over the world giving everything up to go and fight along side ISIS it becomes the world's problem....
I personally would rather fight them in the MId East instead of waiting until they are roaming my streets here!
originally posted by: paxnatus
a reply to: jude11
Referring to the intel being bad is what was reported by the White House and Obama stated that before saying the
Military failed!!
My point was the Intel was good and the Miltary had their hands tied for 2 weeks while Obozo lollygagged on vacation!!
By the time O gave the go ahead the intel had been leaked (and i should have mentioned that in my OP) and the hostages no longer in that location....and that is according to my source.....
Pax
originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
Like it or not, the Bush era existed. Conservatives want to ignore the fact that Bush was president for eight years.
Yes, Obama is responsible, but the rise of extremism in the ME is directly the fault of the shoot first figure out anything later, the biggest blunder was and still is the invasion of Iraq.
Hussein, was a bastard, but the one thing he did well was keep a lid on the sectarian hatred that was under the surface in Iraq.
If Hussein was still in charge, you would not see ISIS operating in Iraq. He would have gassed, tortured and killed the lot of them.
Now Iraq is weak, and ISIS knows this.
Also, the constant state of war the united states is in generates extremists.
And so was Clinton and Reagan, and Carter etc...Your comment about Bush is irrelevant!! This excuse is sooooo tired!!! You do not here conservatives constantly throwing Clinton up for not getting Osama when he had the chance!! Perhaps if Clinton would not have turned his back and looked the other way, 9/11 would never have happened!! There did my comment help anything that is current right now? will ISIS be stopped because of what i said about Clinton? No it won't change a damn thing.
Stop making excuses for Obama's tremendous failure in foreign policy ! as long as you continue to that he will never MAN UP!! This is on him and Foley's death is on him NOT Bush!! we need to get past all political bickering especially if we are facing a major terror threat here.edit on 8/31/2014 by paxnatus because: Not sure why only half the post showed ......
originally posted by: HauntWok
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
Like it or not, the Bush era existed. Conservatives want to ignore the fact that Bush was president for eight years.
Yes, Obama is responsible, but the rise of extremism in the ME is directly the fault of the shoot first figure out anything later, the biggest blunder was and still is the invasion of Iraq.
Hussein, was a bastard, but the one thing he did well was keep a lid on the sectarian hatred that was under the surface in Iraq.
If Hussein was still in charge, you would not see ISIS operating in Iraq. He would have gassed, tortured and killed the lot of them.
Now Iraq is weak, and ISIS knows this.
Also, the constant state of war the united states is in generates extremists.
originally posted by: NonsensicalUserName
a reply to: paxnatus
I think its a good thing our president is waiting to act.
Waiting to act, waiting to actually have a strategy and a plan in place is a better way to go about things than just jumping into a conflict in a gung-ho manner.