U.K. raises terror threat level to 'severe'

Britain has grown increasingly worried about the number of British citizens becoming radicalized with the intention of returning home to carry out attacks.

Speaking about the "poisonous ideology of Islamic extremism," Cameron said at least 500 people have traveled from Britain to Syria and Iraq to fight with militant groups.

U.K. raises terror threat level to 'severe'

Couldn’t find anything about this on ATS so here it is:
This along with the situation in Ukraine/.Russia is getting pretty scary IMO. I have a really bad feeling about all this and have for a while now!
I hope that nothing happens and that this was just preventive measures. The US has not escalated their level (Remains Elevated) so that should indicate something….doesn’t it?

a reply to: Teye22

Must be an election or a war coming up.

Kind of counter productive.

"We must not let people instil terror or fear"

WARNING! TERROR THREAT SEVERE!!

I hate the media.

A few more links, pretty much stating the same but still:

Business Insider

BBC News
From BBc article

The highest level is "critical"- meaning an attack is expected imminently. Officials have twice put the country on such an alert - in 2006 after the discovery of liquid bombs aimed at airliners and then the following year when extremists attempted to bomb Glasgow Airport and London's West End.

In other words - if security chiefs had knowledge of a clear threat they could not contain, the level would already be one notch higher.

a reply to: Teye22

Here is the really stupid thing about this. The government know the names and faces of every person who has left the country with the intention of adding their strength to the ISIS jihad against... Everything.

Therefore, when they arrive home, it should be no problem to simply detain them the second they get back here, silently, quickly, and with no messing about. All it takes, is for the security services to post a unit of intelligence officers and Special Branch or whatever they are called these days, at each airport terminal, whose sole job would be to ensure that if any single one of these radicalised persons returns home, that they do not even get out of the connecting tunnel which links the plane to the terminal, without being clapped in irons.

It's a no brainer, it is not difficult. So why the bloody drama?

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Teye22

Here is the really stupid thing about this. The government know the names and faces of every person who has left the country with the intention of adding their strength to the ISIS jihad against... Everything.

Therefore, when they arrive home, it should be no problem to simply detain them the second they get back here, silently, quickly, and with no messing about. All it takes, is for the security services to post a unit of intelligence officers and Special Branch or whatever they are called these days, at each airport terminal, whose sole job would be to ensure that if any single one of these radicalised persons returns home, that they do not even get out of the connecting tunnel which links the plane to the terminal, without being clapped in irons.

It's a no brainer, it is not difficult. So why the bloody drama?

Because fundamentalists have the country on the back foot when it comes to detainment. First shout of "racism" and the paperwork stacks up and the marches start. Its been a very slow process, but they're getting there. But I totally agree with you.

a reply to: Briles1207

That excuse will not wash when the names and faces of these people are KNOWN to the intelligence services as being jihadist fighters. No amount of community noise will counter actual intelligence confirming the presence of these individuals in the ranks of ISIS and other radical organisations. For the government to be able to say that there are 500 people from the UK, out in the Middle East fighting on behalf of barbaric militant groups, they must have data on every single one of those five hundred, otherwise they would not risk saying it at all.

Personally speaking, I believe that the entire EU should ban travel to and from the entire Middle East, until these IS nut cases have been expunged.

a reply to: Teye22

Limme guess.....MH370 is about to show up and is carrying Ebola (mutated strain) and the bloody pilot is ISIS.

Thanks for the heads-up Guv.

originally posted by: TrueBrit
a reply to: Briles1207

That excuse will not wash when the names and faces of these people are KNOWN to the intelligence services as being jihadist fighters. No amount of community noise will counter actual intelligence confirming the presence of these individuals in the ranks of ISIS and other radical organisations. For the government to be able to say that there are 500 people from the UK, out in the Middle East fighting on behalf of barbaric militant groups, they must have data on every single one of those five hundred, otherwise they would not risk saying it at all.

Personally speaking, I believe that the entire EU should ban travel to and from the entire Middle East, until these IS nut cases have been expunged.

The problem with living in such a "tolerant" country. Is that even criminals and suspected criminals have rights, and they exploit them to the absolute max.

Look at Abu Hamza and Anjem Choudary. Preaching hate and openly condoning and encouraging Terrorism. One took years to deport (due to the EU) and the other is still living here. On benefits I might add.

a reply to: TrueBrit

i hadn't thought of that, it makes perfect sense that if they know there are 500 , that they also know who they are.

Will they ban travel from ME, I can't say but it might be a good idea imo.

originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Teye22

Limme guess.....MH370 is about to show up and is carrying Ebola (mutated strain) and the bloody pilot is ISIS.

Thanks for the heads-up Guv.

Wouldn't THAT be the cherry on the cake...

a reply to: TrueBrit

What if the threat is not only these 500 people that may or may not come back to the UK?

How many Muslims are there in the UK?

How many of them are possibly Jihadists?

I just found this out, never even heard of this....I guess I should read more!

Last February, Canadian Security Intelligence Service director Michael Coulombe testified before the Senate national security and defence committee hearing that an estimated 130 Canadians had joined terror groups in Syria, Yemen, Somalia and north Africa. Coulombe estimated that 30 of them had left to join groups like ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Many experts estimate that number is now much higher.

from here

So will Canada do the same as UK (perhaps when/if the USA does as we always seem to follow our neighbours to the south...I am sure that a lot of other countries are likely in the same boat

a reply to: Shuye

That, in my opinion, is a matter best dealt with if and when it arises. To do anything else would be to let the jihadists win, and would cause more radicalisation than it would solve.

originally posted by: Shuye
a reply to: TrueBrit

What if the threat is not only these 500 people that may or may not come back to the UK?

How many Muslims are there in the UK?

How many of them are possibly Jihadists?

Agreed, those are the KNOWN ones, the scary ones are the UNKNOWN ones that are still in the country waiting for their moment of glory to attack from within

a reply to: Teye22

I'm just about to set off on Holiday with the kids, only The Heads Of Ayr right enough but I really cannot be going this crap when we are about to travel.

That being said the last time any Islamic extremist scum attempted to commit a terrorist act in Scotland they arsed it up good and proper, ended up burning to death while being repeatedly kicked or punched.

a reply to: andy06shake

That's Scotland for you. First thing they do when they see a man on fire.

Punch him.

Respect

On Monday he also wants to discuss removing their citizenship.


I say good!
Let those extremists become without citizenship,they deserve worse.


I don't think it would be possible to ban flights from and to the Middle East....too many businesses, too much traffic.

But capturing these low lives would be a great start.

I hate the terror alert levels. A more common sense way of going about it would be to pay attention to your surroundings...like when you're driving. Oops! Wait, many people don't seem to do that either these days.

The PC climate plays into the hands of those who would do nefarious deeds.

The majority of the time when a terrorist attack happens, it is leaked that those who carried it out were under surveillance. My question in those cases is why weren't they taken down before? Why wait?

teye " must be an election or war coming up"

Well the answer to that one is yes, there is possibly the biggest upset in British politics for 300 years
As for the possibility of war well hmmmm let me see Nuclear Iran, Gaza/Israel, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine me thinks it's possible.







wer much to young to deal with thesee problems but they keep thrusting them self's on us... untill finaly wer foced to think of the solution

a reply to: Rainbowresidue

If their citizenship is removed in absentia, then they could be detained as foreign terror suspects, and that distinction would expand the law enforcement options available to the police and indeed make it possible for them to be tried as enemy combatants.