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Kabbalah originally developed entirely within the realm of Jewish thought, and kabbalists often use classical Jewish sources to explain and demonstrate its esoteric teachings. These teachings are held by followers in Judaism to define the inner meaning of both the Hebrew Bible and traditional Rabbinic literature and their formerly concealed transmitted dimension, as well as to explain the significance of Jewish religious observances
Traditional practitioners believe its earliest origins pre-date world religions, forming the primordial blueprint for Creation's philosophies, religions, sciences, arts, and political systems. Historically, Kabbalah emerged, after earlier forms of Jewish mysticism, in 12th- to 13th-century Southern France and Spain
When Mother Nintur sat upon the throne-dais on the holy seat of joy, the seat from which she has made everything numerous, it was then that the highest divine powers, which are golden, the glory of the numerous people -- the en priesthood and the kingship -- were created for Enlil.
Uttu in Sumerian mythology is the goddess of weaving and clothing. She is both the child of Enki and Ninkur, and she bears seven new child/trees from Enki, the eighth being the Ti (Tree of "Life", associated with the "Rib"). When Enki then ate Uttu's children, Ninhursag cursed him with eight wounds and disappears. Uttu in Sumerian means "the woven" and she was illustrated as a spider in a web
"For the little ones to whom I have given birth may rewards not be lacking. Ab-u shall become king of the grasses, Ninsikila shall become lord of Magan, Ningiriutud shall marry Ninazu, Ninkasi shall be what satisfies the heart, Nazi shall marry Nindara, Azimua shall marry Ninĝišzida, Ninti shall become the lady of the month, and Ensag shall become lord of Dilmun."
originally posted by: Kantzveldt
I want to examine the basis here for the Masonic-Kabbalistic-Judaic tradition of the 'Stairway to Sirius' or 'Jacobs Ladder', it is a tradition indeed of great antiquity and one of enormous influence but my interest is how well it has translated over the years and is todays interpretation distorted viewpoint.
originally posted by: Kantzveldt
Of course one can develop a wisdom tradition relating to the various constellations along it's path, as the Kabbalists appear to have done and look at those in three different ways if one so chooses, there's just no evidence the Sumerians ever did though and certainly they wouldn't have related it to all aspects of Divinity, as it relates only to the cult of Enki and his off-spring.
originally posted by: KilgoreTrout
originally posted by: Kantzveldt
Of course one can develop a wisdom tradition relating to the various constellations along it's path, as the Kabbalists appear to have done and look at those in three different ways if one so chooses, there's just no evidence the Sumerians ever did though and certainly they wouldn't have related it to all aspects of Divinity, as it relates only to the cult of Enki and his off-spring.
I am of the opinion that the Kabbalist tradition is entirely derivative, created between the 11th and 12th centuries as a retrospective response to the mysticism that was brought back with the crusaders. It appears seemingly out of nowhere in and around Prague at that time, and as you say, it is somewhat pretentious not to mention contrived. That is not to say that there was a complete absence of mysticism in the Judaic tradition up to that point, just not in that shape and form.
In terms of the Sumerian 'wisdom tradition' in that context and particularly in relation to Freemasonry, it is much more useful to make the comparison directly with the Operative craft rather than the Speculative. I don't know if you have read Wayne Horowitz's Mesopotamian Cosmic Geography, but he does a stellar job of translating and contextualising the extant examples of astrolabes of the region over the entire period. The astrolabes can be considered the core structure of the Mesopotamian 'life', their accuracy being the difference between life and death for the people under their governance, in that capacity we can see the 'priests' that drew them up, mapping out the stars to determine the seasonal changes, as a direct development of the shaman as rainmaker/flood stopper, seeking to attain control of nature, order from chaos. The stars could predict even subtle changes in the weather systems if correctly mapped and observed, and the complexity with which they did so, by the various paths that the stars followed at any given time were predictive of the seasons and aided in the planning of the agricultural year. The Mesopotamian priests were hugely successful in doing this, we can still learn from them in that respect, the region after all, unlike other civilisations such as the Maya, was not brought down by unexpected and seemingly random weather cycles, it was the irrigation system and salination of the soil that got them.
If you then relate that to the Operative Masons, where the Masons went mathematical learning followed and the speculation became an adherence to that. The Operative craft used divine or universal ordering to create their great works, which is why they were sequestered by the church, just as the priests of Mesopotamia kept the astrolabes to themselves to ensure their own survival and importance. How that then filters down in the form of a belief system is dependent on the customs and superstitions of the people under rule, and is usually syncretic in nature, subject to change and revision. Speculative Masonry relates more to the contemplation of the implications of that order, if you have read The Invisible College by Brian Lomas you will have some idea though of how that still draws upon the origins of Mesopotamian astronomy. Another good study, on that note, is Francesca Rochberg's Heavenly Writing; Divination Horoscopy and Astronomy in Mesoptomian Culture, where again you see how mathematics and divine order was used in terms of the laws of probability. I suspect that many of the seals are actually personal horoscopes and that is how they identified themselves both in terms of their personal lives and in trade. You also find that probability is used in a regimented fashion for divination, and that later those divination tools are adapted for use in gambling and race games such as the Royal Game of Ur.
originally posted by: KilgoreTrout
a reply to: InTheLight
If you like Or we could see it as an evolution of ideas and science from Mesopotamia to that potential future.
Obviously...
“Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.”
― Arthur C. Clarke
Imagination can be prophetic if welcomed by creative minds...so why the hell not
In his book The Prehistory of the Mind , Steven Mithen compares the development of the mind to the architectural plan of a cathedral “that may have been continually tinkered with, but no plan has ever started again from scratch.Evolution does not have the option of returning to the drawing board and beginning anew, it can only ever modify what has gone before.”
The same principle could be applied to some of the constructs created by the mind. No enduring political ideology or religious faith has yet been invented entirely from scratch.
originally posted by: Kantzveldt
I have read Mesopotamian Cosmic Geography but i think the stellar axis i outline here pre-dates any of that, being first represented some 5,200 years ago, that it didn't have much practical function and represents even at that time a fading tradition, two of the constellations i have needed to personally identify for the earliest period, Orion as the seated woman and Canis Major as the spider were soon replaced into the historic period, the paper were i sourced some of the images from has this to say;
originally posted by: Kantzveldt
So one begins to see a marked difference in the Sumerian associations with the Tree of Life and the teachings of the Kabbalah and it's claim to represent all aspects of Divinity through the eleven nodes and their mystical three way interpretation of the 33 Masonic Degrees,
he Blazing Star, which is not, however, to be confounded with the Five-Pointed Star, is one of the most important symbols of Freemasonry, and makes its appearance in several of the Degrees. Hutchinson says "It is the first and most exalted object that demands our attention in the Lodge." It undoubtedly derives this importance, first, from the repeated use that is made of it as a Masonic emblem; and secondly, from its great antiquity as a symbol derived from older systems.
Extensive as has been the application of this symbol in the Masonic ceremonies, it is not surprising that there has been a great difference of opinion in relation to its true signification.
But this difference of opinion has been almost entirely confined to its use in the First Degree. In the higher Degrees, where there has been less opportunity of innovation, the uniformity of meaning attached to the Star has been carefully preserved.
In the Twenty-eighth Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the explanation given of the Blazing Star, is, that it is symbolic of a the Freemason, who, by perfecting himself in the way of truth, that is to say, by advancing in knowledge, becomes like a blazing star, shining with brilliancy in the midst of darkness. The star is, therefore, in this degree, a symbol of truth.
In the Fourth Degree of the same Rite, the star is again said to be a symbol of the light of Divine Providence pointing out the way of truth.
In the Ninth Degree this symbol is called the star of direction; and while it primitively alludes to an especia1 guidance given for a particular purpose expressed in the degree, it still retains, in a remoter sense, its usual signification as an emblem of Divine Providence guiding and directing the pilgrim in his journey through life.