A Ben Carson shaped world, page 2

posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 11:46 AM

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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: LDragonFire

Do you think America is better now than it was?

Do you?

I don't see much change, other that the last couple of decade's and the militarizing police (GWB) and prison industrial complex(Reagan/Bush/Clinton).

And of course the propaganda is hyper researched and practiced.

I do think we have the worst supreme court in history! and have made the top 3 worst decision made in its (citizens united decision)

Worst supreme court decisions

1 Dred Scott
2 The slaughterhouse decision
3 citizen united

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beezzer

posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 11:49 AM

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a reply to: LDragonFire

Well, we can only "hope" for "change".

LDragonFire

posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 11:49 AM

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a reply to: beezzer

I bet that wont be a slogan in 2016...ha ha

I don't think they were ready for a martial law type situation when Obama won, they were building the infrastructure under GWB, but now. They are ready, Ferguson showed us that.

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LDragonFire

posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 11:57 AM

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I'm not attempting to derail with my other posts, anyone have any good links or video on him?

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intrepid

posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 12:05 PM

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From what I've read this guy is MORE than a viable candidate. Which means he probably doesn't stand a hope in hell.

shapur

posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 12:06 PM

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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: LDragonFire

Do you think America is better now than it was?

I think Americans are more educated,more aware and they have more access to different things.But they are also less happy,less motivated,more in debt,and less healthy and care free than before ,specially during the 50's and 60's...Gadgets and stuff don't always bring happiness to our lives,we have to search for it inside...Sorry i know i am off topic i think i had one too many.

dukeofjive696969

posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 04:18 PM

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Im more or less a socialist in my way of thinking, the little i have read about this fellow is that he sounds like a good man to run for president. Biggest issue he will have is the established politicians. He would have to run independent, as i am sure the gop not would allow him on the ticket, this is an opinion but see what they did to ron paul.

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Diderot

posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 11:24 PM

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a reply to: JesuitGarlic

"I maybe biased here but I think that Carson maybe the genuine kind of person that America and the world needs to be running the US next."

I think that what you might be might be trying to say is that the USA needs an extreme right wing reactionary President.

Please forgive me if I disagree.

charles1952

posted on Aug, 24 2014 @ 11:27 PM

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a reply to: Diderot

Actually, what I think he's trying to say is that America needs a president willing to follow the law, avoid lying, and stop stirring up domestic discord. It wouldn't hurt if he'd avoid insulting our friends, and encouraging our enemies.

Rezlooper

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 12:23 AM

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He has my vote. I've been a life-long Republican and frankly, I'm tired of the establishment republicans. They're no different than the democrats I've opposed. We need someone like Dr. Carson. Bring it on.

butcherguy

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 10:18 AM

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a reply to: Rezlooper

I'm tired of the establishment republicans.

I think the Republicans need to get the message that a majority of their party agree with you.

But the R's and D's have a stranglehold on politics, from the local level right up to the top, so they can do whatever they want.

NavyDoc

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 10:26 AM

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He's a decent sounding fellow. Not everyone is perfect and I disagree with his stance on gun control, but he wouldn't try to rule by edict either.

Krazysh0t

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 10:49 AM

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originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: LDragonFire

Do you think America is better now than it was?

That's a loaded question. There are some things that America is better now with and some things that America is worse off with. I don't see America as better or worse than yesteryear, just different.

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FlyersFan

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 11:12 AM

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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

a reply to: JesuitGarlic
See .. that Vatican Occult Satanic and Zionist stuff ...
I was right there with you until that.

On Carson -

His religion will be against him. Seventh Day Adventist. The far right won't go for it because it's not considered main stream Christian. Seventh Day Adventists are notorious for bashing Catholics and that's 25% of the voting population in the USA so that would absolutely come up and be against him. The far left won't go for it because he's considered too religious and doesn't buy into evolution or marriage equality.

He's a brilliant man. A good man who saves lives. He wrote his own books unlike lots of politicians. He got himself out of the ghetto and up to being a fantastic surgeon. He actually was raised in this country and understands the black USA experience. His stand on the second amendment - he supports it while at the same time calling for a banning of semi-automatic weapons in large cities. He wants to get rid of for profit insurance companies ... I don't know how he'd manage to do that but that's what he wants to do. He favors 'compassionate action' ... something like affirmative action but better and more up to date. He hasn't said exactly what that would be. He speaks out about self responsibility and making good personal choices. He says political correctness is dangerous. He wants every citizen to have a 'health savings account' that they can use and pass along at death like a regular bank account. Best of all ... he wants a FLAT TAX. He opposes marriage equality. He personally doesn't believe in evolution. He is against Obamacare.

I can see him in the role of VP. IMHO - He doesn't have the executive experience necessary to be POTUS. But then again ... neither did Obama and that didn't stop people from voting for him. If he runs, I'd like to see Carson on the ticket as VP so he could gain more political and executive experience.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

jimmyx

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 11:18 AM

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originally posted by: LDragonFire

originally posted by: JesuitGarlic
Since retired Neurosurgeon Ben Carson's 2013 National Prayer Breakfast speech where he opposed the emperor, not holding his political tongue, he has risen quickly in public prominence. He seems to be one who wants to break down manufactured divides of race, sex ect. to bring people together in the common pursuit of restoring America again

Your thoughts people...

Restoring America again? What is it with conservatives and the delusion that America was better in the past? We have a history of institutionalized racism, sexism and just about any other bigoted oppression under the Sun?

The good old days were not good.

that's code for "white republican president"...and you are right about the so-called good ole days...same amount of graft and corruption, they just didn't have social media, and 24 hour cable.

butcherguy

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 11:27 AM

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a reply to: LDragonFire

What is it with conservatives and the delusion that America was better in the past?

How about a libertarian?

What it is with me... is that I remember(meaning the past) better times economically speaking.

cavtrooper7

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 11:30 AM

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a reply to: jimmyx

AS an opponent your FAILURE to understand situations or inadequately guess what your opposite thinks because YOU assume we ONLY HAVE simple minded one way thought processes,is both insulting and easily dismissed as such simpletons usually ARE in debates as well.

THE REPUBLIC is not meant for money or to oppress all PROGRESSIVE thought. But as we see it now such efforts are overdone and must accept the facts of traditional AMERICAN values instead of MANIPULATING them or face rebellion. THAT is conflict with actual BLOOD WE ,THE CONSERVATIVES,OWN that.

beezzer

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 11:33 AM

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What is it with Americans who would want a 4% unemployment rate?

What is it with Americans who would want a strong, honest thriving economy?

What is it with Americans who would want a consistent foreign policy?

What is it with Americans who would want a scandal-free administration?

What is it with Americans who would want a uniter as political leader and not a divider?

What is it with Americans who would want. . . . . .

Must be a bunch of haters and racists, huh.

jjkenobi

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 01:06 PM

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originally posted by: sheepslayer247
I'm a bit confused as to why this man is held up as a fine "conservative". He believes in affirmative action, though he wants to call it something else, and thinks for-profit healthcare insurance should be abolished. He supported Obama during his first election, as well.

I'm not sure many Republicans would like this man to represent them in the White House.

I understand why you are confused. In the liberal world if you don't follow directly in-step 100% with the party agenda and speaking points you get thrown to the curb. In the conservative world it isn't like that. And I can't fault him for supporting Obama in the first election based on Obama's promises. But once he, and the rest of us, all saw it a was an act and Obama is clueless (empty chair) he wasn't for it anymore. Unlike most Democrats out there who are still trying to convince themselves Obama is doing a good job.

intrepid

posted on Aug, 25 2014 @ 01:10 PM

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originally posted by: jjkenobi
I understand why you are confused. In the liberal world if you don't follow directly in-step 100% with the party agenda and speaking points you get thrown to the curb. In the conservative world it isn't like that.

They're the first to throw someone under the bus. That's why I don't think Ben has a chance. He doesn't "step to" in every aspect.