China and Russia attack U.S. simultaneously

Now for a little doom and gloom.

Henry Gruver a well known pastor had a vision in 1986. He sees China attacking the U.S. on the west coast as the Soviets strike the east coast. He sees a nuclear bomb as it explodes in the air over New York City……… destroying all of New York City. He also sees this happening in Washington state, Florida and California.

The U.S. falls into China and Soviet hands. The U.S. is defeated with millions dead.

Watch this youtube video for more info.

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An interesting Youtube video. he made three videos concerning this subject and what you will find surprising is what he describes in his vision - he describes something that was not around at the time he had his vision..........cellphone towers.... which we have in almost every city.

Your thoughts?

MAD still exists. Never happen. The movie Sum of All Fears was closer to the truth. "It's not a country that has a 1000 nukes I'm worried about. It's that person with one nuke I'm worried about."

originally posted by: intrepid
MAD still exists. Never happen. The movie Sum of All Fears was closer to the truth. "It's not a country that has a 1000 nukes I'm worried about. It's that person with one nuke I'm worried about."

You don't hear a lot about MAD anymore. It tends not to fit with Ideological wars.

Totally agree with you though. :-)

All things considered, China is the least of my concern.

a reply to: Jesuslives4u

I hate having dreams like that.

Glad I don't have them much anymore.

Here is the video:

originally posted by: Darkblade71
a reply to: Jesuslives4u

I hate having dreams like that.

Glad I don't have them much anymore.

Here is the video:

Thanks for putting the video up.

I hope this never happens but I was a Boy Scout - so I always prepare!

Just don't know how to prepare if a nuke explodes over my city.

a reply to: Jesuslives4u

A cold war dream.
I won't say he is wrong because you never know,
and I had a dream once about China and Russia myself
so in my own head I could see it happening some day.

But it is not happening today,
and for that, I am grateful.

I think most people should stop dreaming...

just kidding.

If you think about stuff, even it`s just little bit or just a split second, there`s a good change you will dream about it, and lot`s of times 2 or 3 days later. I have been able to back track such dreams almost always to those things.To me it looks like most people confuse those dreams with visions. I had some minor ones, even when being awake, so I know they can be real, but because I also know about stuff coming back in dreams (which is the case predominantly), I personally don`t put too much weight to them.

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

I agree. I think his dream was a sign of the times.
The cold war was going on and the thought of a possibility his mind was going over,
leaked into his subconscious and played out a scenario in a dream.

I've had it happen.

But then, you just never know either.
It is especially difficult when you have had dreams in the past that have come true.
It adds to the fear that it is a premonition or vision.

I don't know if this guy ever had any other dreams or visions like this to examine and see.
And just because someone is a preacher,
it doesn't mean they are going to have visions that always come true.

He might of just been worried about some news of the day that worked into his subconscious.
If he is right, it won't matter.


Certainly worthy of a doom porn title.
Even if it is old, and has not happened yet.
he offers a look at what everyone was scared of, and what some still are scared of.

We get hurt Those countries would be decimated by scorched earth tactics and it would frighten the living crap out of us all what we could REALLY do ,racial specific bio hits, chems you've NEVER heard of and things that are worse than nukes, we DO have them. Russia's not stupid that way. China thinks they are white devils too,deep down.

a reply to: Jesuslives4u

Hey everyone!

I joined ATS in the spring of 2011. During the summer of 2011 I had 2 very specific dreams. I have told about them before on ATS...they are buried somewhere in the archives.

Considering what is currently going on...I am going to repeat them.

Dream One - In this dream I see a huge ship on the ocean...(which ocean I am not sure)...on the ship are 3 groups of military...Russian, Middle Eastern and Asian...and they detonate a bomb on the ocean floor.

Dream Two - In this dream (I live in downtown Seattle); it is the daytime and I am leaving the side door entrance of the building I live in; I cross the street and all of a sudden it seems like out of nowhere are Middle Eastern soldiers appearing with weapons; I am able to get away and hide.

I have never forgotten those dreams; and I just have to wonder; was I being warned ahead of time.

I have been watching CNN today on and off... and some of what they are saying is extremely concerning to me. They have been saying that they think the U.S. is going to be attacked on our own soil and to prepare. And then some are saying that they are going to keep our enemies contained in their own lands.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
We get hurt Those countries would be decimated by scorched earth tactics and it would frighten the living crap out of us all what we could REALLY do ,racial specific bio hits, chems you've NEVER heard of and things that are worse than nukes, we DO have them. Russia's not stupid that way. China thinks they are white devils too,deep down.

A Cav man and a scout, huh? Infantry man saddled up on a Bradley?

Good man!

The avatar - not a military unit or is it? Which unit?

originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: Jesuslives4u

Hey everyone!

I joined ATS in the spring of 2011. During the summer of 2011 I had 2 very specific dreams. I have told about them before on ATS...they are buried somewhere in the archives.

Considering what is currently going on...I am going to repeat them.

Dream One - In this dream I see a huge ship on the ocean...(which ocean I am not sure)...on the ship are 3 groups of military...Russian, Middle Eastern and Asian...and they detonate a bomb on the ocean floor.

Dream Two - In this dream (I live in downtown Seattle); it is the daytime and I am leaving the side door entrance of the building I live in; I cross the street and all of a sudden it seems like out of nowhere are Middle Eastern soldiers appearing with weapons; I am able to get away and hide.

I have never forgotten those dreams; and I just have to wonder; was I being warned ahead of time.

I have been watching CNN today on and off... and some of what they are saying is extremely concerning to me. They have been saying that they think the U.S. is going to be attacked on our own soil and to prepare. And then some are saying that they are going to keep our enemies contained in their own lands.

WOW - I had to change my shorts on this one! Your dreams are not far off from what Henry Gruver talks about. Had you asked me 25 years ago if the U.S. would ever be invaded and I would have laughed and said NO WAY!

Today........ I am not sure anymore.

a reply to: intrepid

I totally agreed with your post....until I realized who we had as 'President'.

Would he even retaliate?

I can see him waxing philosophic and saying "It was inevitable the U.S. fell"......

a reply to: caladonea

Just remember:

a reply to: Jesuslives4u

Until you started this thread today...I had never heard of (Henry Gruver)...and to read the visions he had...startled me a bit because of the dreams I had in 2011.

originally posted by: Darkblade71
a reply to: caladonea

Just remember:

LOVE IT - What a great message.

I don't watch too much TV. A waste of time.

a reply to: Darkblade71

Almost all people (well over 90%) are driven by fear with most things they do in their lives nowadays. If you know that, you know why people do stuff. Just look around, it`s all about fear. An alcoholic, workaholic, people who are in there head all the time, control freak, etc. it`s all about staying away from their feeling (fear). But to be happy, you need to be in contact with your inner feelings, and before you can do that you need to confront your fears. The contact with inner feelings (found in your heart) is blocked by a wall of fear by most people, it`s literally as a wall around most peoples hearts. Fear was only meant just to be a tool (for your protection) to do 3 things, to run away from danger, to hide and to freeze (not to be detected), just look at animals when they are threatened. Most people are permanently frozen nowadays, so it`s no wonder most are unhappy. It`s normal to have some fear, but not to that extend it controls you.

originally posted by: caladonea
a reply to: Jesuslives4u

Until you started this thread today...I had never heard of (Henry Gruver)...and to read the visions he had...startled me a bit because of the dreams I had in 2011.

He made a few videos on this subject. Go to youtube and watch the one when he talks about the invasion that is coming to Europe. Apparently Russia and China take on the U.S. and Europe. The Americans get nuked while the Europeans get gassed. And Henry Gruver gives a good detail description of the Soviet styled NBC suits they have. At the time of his vision the Soviets had a different NBC suit then they have today- and the NBC suit that Henry describes is the one the Russians are using today.

Another coincidence? Two in a row? First with the cellphone towers he saw in one of his visions concerning the U.S. and then the new NBC suits the Russians now have?

I do not believe in coincidences!

a reply to: Jesuslives4u

Well then here, this might freak you out a little more...

A dream I had back in 2000:

posted on May, 17 2004 @ 03:24 PM

I am posting this here because it is something that hasn't happened yet, and I still believe it will. And it might be a China/Russia connection.

dream of pres death Sunday, 12-Mar-00 09:01:04

Message:

This was kind of a weird dream and I dunno if it is important or not, but I will post it anyways.

This morning I had a dream that a large bear charged the presidents car and managed to rip off the door. The bear (looked like a brown bear at first) then crawled half in the car and began ripping apart all inside. Somewhere during all of this, the bear turned into a big angry panda. The driver of the car was still alive and took off towards the hospital with bear still in the car. There were two secret service agents left hanging onto a rope outside the car and they were dragged to their death in the attempt to get to the hospital. The car then turned into a pinto and ran off the freeway and blew up.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
I took it from a thread I made when I first came to ATS.
Which is why I won't dismiss a Russia/China prediction.

However, like I was saying, these were reflections of my own thoughts.
It has not happened yet and probably never will.

*crosses fingers*