EU is INSANE...directive that hits the vacuum cleaners

Not many of us are prepared to spend a lot of time cleaning the house, we have been lucky that we are able to use technology which makes cleaning less time consuming and less hard.. That will be over soon as the new directive hits your vacuum cleaners.

There has been in markets cleaners which uses over 2000W and in 1st October these power vacuum cleaners are not allowed to be imported in EU countries anymore. The power of these cleaners will be minimized, first it will be lowered down to 1600W and in year 2017 maximum power can only be 900W.

You can still use the vacuum cleaner when tidying your home, but you should do it with less energy! Does anyone see this as one of the most ridiculous directive?

So what will happen, you will spend twice that time vacuum cleaning and double that power.

If you have planned to buy a new vacuum cleaner in the EU, now it's the time in 3 years there will be only 900W cleaners available.

What next...

a reply to: dollukka

That sucks....
Now get back in the kitchen!

a reply to: TerrorAlertRed

Why ?

a reply to: dollukka

This is a response to European energy crisis. In case you didn't know, Russia will more or less close it's gas line to Europe, as Kerry demanded. And EU is demanding that most (if not all) Nuclear power plants in Europe be closed, as a result of the Fukujima incident.

The US, is pushing for, that EU will buy middle eastern gas/oil in the future. The reason for this, is that the US want's EU to be more active in helping them waging wars and kill muslims. This can only be achieved, if the EU has a clear goal/agenda, to maintain a stable oil/gas from the middle east. Germany, France and Britain are of course very willing to send people out to kill others. After all, they're famous for it ... however, the rest of us think that it is far better to cut down on energy use. A 2000W energy cleaner, is the first step. It takes as much energy, or even more ... than your stove.

a reply to: dollukka

I had to smile at this one! Igts the thought of a room full of dumb graduates sweating their brains to come up with this twoddle.

If I can't buy it in the UK in 3 years time can I import it over the net?

I am sick of this kind of stupid interference in my life. Why are they not looking at serious ways of storing electricity in some of the great inventions that are out there, to be used to keep our energy supply down? I have read about batteries, solar engines all sorts of things that never seem to make the light of day and these are where those dumb graduates need to be waking up their brains and looking to keep the EU as clean and every efficient as possible - and hopefully then , we will have experience and knowledge, even equipment to export to other countries.

OMG you just want to grab the fly swotter and swot some of the Eurocrats where they ruddly well need it. The EU has the money to buy these patents and its time it was used and not wasted!

a reply to: bjarneorn

This directive is one of those sloppy ideas they have done. Sure Russian´s actions might play a role in this, but things in Russia is not that good as you would think of, its economy is already suffering from its stubbornness and Putin is trying to find a way out which would safe his face. The Russians Buying rush of groceries has already started in Finland this week in towns and cities which are close to the border.

But cutting the power of Vacuum cleaners more than half means people will use more time to clean, where do they think they will save...

Well that sucks......O wont on this case.....

originally posted by: dollukka
But cutting the power of Vacuum cleaners more than half means people will use more time to clean, where do they think they will save...

Europe is on it's way into the gutter ... energy has always been it's weakest point. I know you learned in school how the nazis were evil, but their research had to do with solving the energy crisis. And while you think it's huge to see Russians rush in to buy groceries in Finland, it's a common thing to see Norwegians buy groceries in Sweden, at their border. Not to mention Swedes rushing to Denmark to buy beer, or Danes rushing to Germany to buy beer and öhl (gasoline).

In Europe, we're being strangled by energy prices ... the price of energy we buy here in Scandinavia, where energy "should" be the cheapest .. is scandalous, to say the least. In Germany and other European Nations, the price of energy is a bigger toll on the community than here. And "WE" the public, don't even have the backbone to stand up for ourselves anymore ... were brainwashed morons, who believe anything on TV.

The Russian thing, would really not be a problem ... if European nations had "continued" to research for energy solutions. But the US has bought numerous German discoveries, in the later years, only to put them in the closet. In this category, you'll find numerous Hydrogen research. All of which, boils down to ... energy crisis for Europe. Always has.

And ... the curve, between the time spent vacuum cleaning and the energy used to vacuum, is not linear. Meaning, maybe you'll spend more time on it ... but you'll still use less energy.

Well, have you seen some of the cleaners that are on sale! When switched on they make more noise than a jumbo jet!!! I'm surprised the whole world doesn't get sucked into the nozzle.

I dont agree with them poking their noses into how we live, but I'd like to see a noise limit on these things.

It does not matter what the energy crises does.

Dollukka is completely correct. You will just spend more damn time running around with a cleaner that quite simply will not work properly.

You will in fact just waste a damn lot of power.

The other thing is, when you look at all of the things that use power, vacuum cleaners are right down the bottom of the list because they run so infrequently.

I don't know about you, but mine only runs for about an hour a week.

You would be better off looking at things like consume a lot of power such as heaters and fridges.

Where do we find such utterly stupid politicians.

Seriously, they are just moronic. I cannot get my head around how we end up with such pea brained twits.

Just a question, politicians did go to school didn't they?

They must have been asleep under the desks.

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a reply to: pheonix358

The politicians need things to make them feel important and powerful

they adore having power over the "little people"

and focusing on an appliance that is run at the most once a week for a maximum of 1 hour total in most households (I know there are vacuum freaks who do it daily, but those are the exception)

is an example of how politicians/especially socially aware politicians (found in huge numbers in the EU)
have a deep seated need to control even the tiniest aspect of the daily lives of those under them.

It's for the good of society as a whole they will say and ban the book the Giver. Read it if you want to know why I said this here.

I read about that the other day.

There are far more things that could be targeted.

If the UK hadn't privatised it's industry people would have more money and the economy would be far better. The money saved could have been put to good use investing in tech to create and store energy from nature and giving people free energy.

All they did when they privatised our land and it's resources was giving money to CEO's and the top of the corporate pyramid whilst making people slaves to corrupt commercialist cronyism.

I would vote for the party with good policies that offered to reclaim our national resources IMO that sort of thing has to happen for society to ever recover and to really solve the issues of nations and really have any good effect on global energy use.

Sometimes I think of living in Iceland, and the fact the pavements and roads are heated with geothermal, same for people's water. My ultimate aim is designing and building my own super eco home that is completely off grid and as self sufficient as possible.

Vacuum cleaners have been the bane of my life for years.

The vacuum cleaners I recall as a child lasted were made to last, mostly Hoover and were handed down to students and first home couples etc. They worked fine for years, no issues.

Over the past 15 years I have bought around 10 vacuum cleaners, from Hoover, Vax, Electrolux top of the range uprights and cylinders to a few cheaper brands, some worked okay for a few years, some lasted a few months, some were so awful they were returned to the store.

I refused to buy Dyson as an ex used to work for a company that processed returns and said there was a fault in many. However after so many other brands not being to standard I bought a top of the range Dyson upright which worked amazingly though was heavy, bulky and impractical. I sold it on ebay and bought a Dyson digital slim, which I have to say is the lightest, most practical, strongest and most powerful vacuum I have ever used. It is amazing, no cord, no bulk, it takes limited storage space and seeing as I have longish very strong hair, has an easy to clean brush bar. Amazing.

Most of the vacuums on the market aren't worth it IMO as they aren't made to last and many are less than efficient. I read that Dyson aren't affected by the new regulation, I guess an increase in sales is forecasted. The other vacuums would barely be functional at the new limits.

Screw 'em all! Use throw rugs, and when they need cleaning, take them outside and beat them! No electricity used!, no spending money on a vacuum.

This stooopid directive is music to the ears of Nigel Farrage and his ilk.

Of course it has nothing to do with any Russia related energy crisis because it has emerged too quickly after the events, there would be 100's of panels, forums, and quangos to navigate, and that process takes years. This particular farce was most likely concieved when Dyson was still trying to get in bed with the big boys.

Mr EU, I demand proper bent bananas, cucumbers, and a choice of other funny shaped crops.

It's not going to take longer to vacuum. In a bizarro world where power consumption is directly correlated to awesomenessby potential buyers, vacuum makers have great incentive to waste as much power as they can. Yours uses 2000 watts? Well, mine uses 2500! Top that!

You'll spend just as much time vacuuming as before -- as little as possible -- you just won't be pissing away quite as much electricity while you do it.

With less power it takes more time, this power limit they have in mind 900W is like going back in time 3 decades. Allergic (asthma also) families had to vacuum every day at 80´s now with better technology and power it needs to be done about twice a week. Don´t see the point of this directive. Beating rugs are only putting dust deeper into it so it's not an option, a good option is to have nice allergy approved vacuum cleaner which actually takes the dust away from the carpets and floors and not spread it around.

a reply to: dollukka

Yes, you're correct. Low suction power translates to slow(er) movement. Therefore, we are not going to see energy to be saved with this kind of directives. It is as effective as the ban on old fashioned light bulbs in arctic zones like Finland. *i'm rolling my eyes*

It's worth noting that while the directive is absurd-like, there seems to be confusion about power-intake and suction power. Higher power intake does not guarantee higher suction power, and the directive calls for lower power intake.

That is fair, in a sense.

What good might become of it, i believe there will be interesting challenges to manufacturers. Low-end manufacturers just cripple and die, while those who have means to engineer better vacuum cleaners may flourish.

IMO, there are too many cheapo 2kW "made in china" VCs going for 39 euros, with extremely low suction power AND life span barely over the date in your guarantee-card.

ARGH, i hate cheap "made in china" stuff. People should not support that skit. Same thing with those new fancy energy-saving light bulbs, WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Geez, that kind of vacuum wattage almost seems like total overkill to me. I have a 12 amp Hoover, which I think is about 1300 watts, IIR the conversion correctly. I've also had a crappy little 10 amp Bissell that did comparably before it broke down.
Someone once explained to me though that it's not the watts/amps that matter, it's how much cubic feet of air the vacuum can move, or CFM (cubic feet per minute) Apparently a good motor can run on less electricity and still move more air into the vacuum faster on less electricity if built better.

The CFM rating is a new one on me, though. I thought that primarily applied to room filters/air scrubbers, but in that context, since they're removing crud from the air also, that actually makes sense. That more power doesn't necessarily equal more clean.

a reply to: dollukka

This response by the bureaucrats seems extreme to those of us WHO NOTHING ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY OR EFFICIENCIES OF VACUUM CLEANERS.

Assuming those who do know something exist, I would prefer them to post about the implications as to the effect of this regulation.

It could be perfectly sane.

Taking control of ones usage of the 'commons' is common and necessary because so many THINK THEY KNOW WHAT IS BEST THROUGH BELIEF. Like believing you are soooo important and that your statements are fully substantiated by your opinions.

Get back to me when you know something other than how you feel.

a reply to: dollukka

You gotta make us some sammiches...

Maybe the newer vacuums are just a little...lets say...um.... more efficient with the electricity they use.