UK HOMEGROWN JIHADISTS fighting for ISIS...and TURKEY

a reply to: combatmaster

Ya I guess some people need to feel accepted and they see that as the only way.

What doesnt make sense is why we havent introduced them to oppenheimer yet!

Am I missing something? lol what do you mean?

a reply to: Shepard64

Most likely he means this

I wonder what the Daily Mail's stance is on allowing the UK population fire arms in order to protect ourselves from this impending ISIS takeover...well they are doing a damn good job at trying scare the @%&t out of the Sheeeeple.

Daily Fail..

Turkey’s Government hands Suleyman Shah Tomb in Syria over to ISIS.

It has become a widely known and well documented fact that Turkish special forces and intelligence services have cooperated with ISIS/IS in Syria for years. IS has maintained a relatively solid military presence in the oil and gas rich region around the tomb at least since April 2014. The so-called no-mans-land between Turkish troops at the tomb and IS fighters was in April reported to be no more than about 200 meters.

The swift capture of the Iraqi city of Mosul resulted in the alleged capture of 49 Turkish nationals from the Turkish Consulate in Mosul.

There have, however, been doubts about the veracity of these reports about the kidnapping from day one. Among others, the statement by the then Turkish Deputy Foreign Minister Naci Koru raised doubts whether the kidnapping was a false flag operation or part of preparations for a false flag operation. The Turkish government of PM Tayyip Erdogan, however, continued maintaining ever since that it was negotiating with IS about the release of the hostages.

LINK

False flag.. Oil ... fishy

I remember when many years ago the UK was welcoming and encouraging immigration as part of a "cultural" movement or that is what it was sold to for us in the US to welcome immigration also with open arms.

How is immigration working for UK now, while in the US we got nothing but the importation of poverty UK is having a more worst problem that us, with sleeping terrorist cells.

When the first taste of what the immigration from the middle east started to show its ugly face with the riots in the UK I knew that the agenda was back firing on the citizens, not the corrupted politicians that encouraged the "cultural exchange" that is always one sided.

I tell you what things are going to get worst, specially if the US and the UK join forces to fight ISIS in Iraq and middle east overall, 9/11 put a stop for a time to the growing middle east immigration in the US, they became quiet, but now that many have become citizens and have born children like in the UK they will exercise their rights.

The constitution of the US while many call it outdated it does protect the nation, the UK is no so lucky.

originally posted by: abe froman
All the Brits I talked to have been telling me for years how out of control Islam and Muslims have become in the UK. They are handled with kid gloves while bringing street sharia enforcement and intolerance to all other religions around them. It was long ago time to say no more and show them the iron fist inside the velvet glove.
If you are allowed to do these things in Britain with little or no consequence why not go to the desert and act like some petty king?
What should really bother you about jihadists from the UK is that they are planning on coming back to the UK...this time to rule.

Lots of British posters here have discussed the other side of things with you here Abe, as well as debunking the Sharia "Muslim Patrol" vids which are little more than isolated incidents in deserted streets. So not all Brits that you have spoken to.

No doubt returning IS fighters can, and may cause all manner of havoc if not dealt with - and i sincerely hope they are stopped at the border and dealt with as harshly as they richly deserve, but how will they possibly rule when they return?

turkey are wanting the ottoman days back

a reply to: dollukka

Ahaha I see now

a reply to: skalla I meant real people I have spoken to in person (and one guy I skype with) I was unaware that the muslim patrols had been debunked.

Muslim Patrol Jailed

Judge bans Muslim Patrol

Muslim Patrol East London

a reply to: abe froman

A few people getting ASBO's and then few months inside (two of those stories relate to the same two, possibly three individuals) for idiotic behaviour on the streets is hardly a Sharia revolution.

I could pop out tonight and film myself ridding some of the quieter streets of The West Midlands of folk who are not bald enough to be part of my Magnificent Hair Free Caliphate and post it on YT and then subsequently claim that i have taken the streets, it's little different from what these berks have done.

a reply to: marg6043

The constitution of the US while many call it outdated it does protect the nation, the UK is no so lucky.

I agree with quite a lot of what you posted......but I don't understand how you feel your Constitution provides more protection than UK laws and statutes etc?

Simple fact is we've pussy footed around the problem for too long now and the general public are getting pretty damned pissed off.
Come the General Election next year this will be one of, if not the most, important issue that people will demand strong action and leadership on.

And for the record; we in the UK are not as yet facing an avalanche of Islamification, but we need to act NOW to prevent serious confrontation in the future.
Sharia Law will NEVER be the norm in the UK.

P.S.

When the first taste of what the immigration from the middle east started to show its ugly face with the riots in the UK

What 'riots' were they?

Other than a few minor disturbances at rallies I can't recall any riots remotely relating to the Middle East or concerning 'Middle East immigrants'.

Yes, we have issues here in the UK that need addressing urgently, but its vitally important that we are accurate and clear in what we are dealing with and opposing.

originally posted by: dollukka
a reply to: Shepard64

Most likely he means this

couldn't have said it better myself!
in the picture, you can clearly see that the pen is mightier than the sword.
a reply to: Shepard64

originally posted by: marg6043
I remember when many years ago the UK was welcoming and encouraging immigration as part of a "cultural" movement or that is what it was sold to for us in the US to welcome immigration also with open arms.

How is immigration working for UK now, while in the US we got nothing but the importation of poverty UK is having a more worst problem that us, with sleeping terrorist cells.

Marge, contrary to popular belief, the UK is not being over-run - according to the last census (2011), 80% are still of "white" origin. That said, it has dropped from 87% since the 2001 census, but this much was expected with labours attempt at social engineering and their open door policy.

This has become a hot topic in the UK, but not really down religious/ethnic lines - most people I know are concerned about immigration along purely pragmatic lines - not enough homes, jobs, schools etc, so why let more people in who expect us to bend to their way of life while giving up our own.

This will be a major issue at the next election, but ironically, the two strongest anti-immigration parties may end up splitting the centre-right vote allowing the loony-left in, again.

originally posted by: marg6043
When the first taste of what the immigration from the middle east started to show its ugly face with the riots in the UK I knew that the agenda was back firing on the citizens, not the corrupted politicians that encouraged the "cultural exchange" that is always one sided.

The riots had nothing to do with race or immigration and more to do with chav's and their sense of entitlement. It was also highly localised and only in a few towns/cities, even then concentrated in rough neighbourhoods. It was no where near as bad as some would have you believe, not by a long shot.

originally posted by: marg6043
I tell you what things are going to get worst, specially if the US and the UK join forces to fight ISIS in Iraq and middle east overall, 9/11 put a stop for a time to the growing middle east immigration in the US, they became quiet, but now that many have become citizens and have born children like in the UK they will exercise their rights.

The constitution of the US while many call it outdated it does protect the nation, the UK is no so lucky.

I echo Freeborn's sentiments here but will add that the UK has a Constitution - it just isn't codified in a single document, but instead in many important documents and legislative acts over many centuries. Don't think for a moment the US is "special".

a little off topic....My sister recently visited London. Her impression was not that pleasant. She said that walking around town the whole day she could hardly spot a "white english" person...(we used to joke that you can immediately recognize Brits when they come for summer hollydays in my country). She expanded on that by saying...that too many people are walking around in robes, covered heads and such. Basically...it didn't feel like London from the movies At certain points it felt more like Baghdad.


As for Turkey's involvement. Erdogan is a radical in sheep's clothing. They are trying to get to NATO and the EU, so he puts on a progressive face for public's sake. In reality...he would most likely be happy to help ISIS and renew the Empire.

I can see quite clearly what Islamic culture brings, and I want none of it. Bosnia and Hercegovina was under the Islamic rule for centuries. It is to date among most underdeveloped countries in Europe. The Yugoslavia war also didn't help matters much.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

Most of the immigration and ethnic minorities in the UK are concentrated in the South, especially the recent influx.

London perhaps being the highest percentage, Birmingham has historically had lots of ethnic minorities, also Bristol and the counties in the south parallel to London.

Hence the total percentage isn't that high, though probably far higher than the official stats suggest due to illegal immigrants, in places like London there will be a far greater concentration than in Torbay or Edinburgh for example.

a reply to: theabsolutetruth

in places like London there will be a far greater concentration than in Torbay or Edinburgh for example.

I guess that's a given. London has a far greater pull to any immigrant. But somehow...it's not all that comforting.

a reply to: MarioOnTheFly

It is far from comforting. I live in the London commuter zone (Wiltshire / Oxfordshire border) an hour's drive or an hour on the train.

I guess a lot of tourists to London might be surprised at the levels of immigration.

A lot of the more well known London footage is from movies of the 60's and 70's when there were barely any cars and the streets were uncrowded.

Not so easy to park on the Kings Road and pop into Biba anymore.

I like hearing stories from older people I know that lived in London then, when quaint met chic or hip and a new age of thinking.

I don't think Turkey as a state or government has anything to do with this really.

By simply virtue of geography, Turkey is the gateway between Europe and the Middle East - both culturally and logistically. There probably isn't a huge amount that the Turkish government can do really.

Much like the Mexico/US border - if people are determined enough to cross, they will. And that's even before those who also happen to have 'legitimate' reasons for crossing those borders such as family, business etc.