My personal Opinion on how to solve our nations problems

I want you all to understand I don’t have all the answers, but I have for the last 6 years been contemplating deeply with prayer and insight as to what kind of solution is needed for our country to get back into a position that it is self sufficient and independent. And at every corner of thought, two main themes keeps coming into the equation. Clear and concise bi-directional Communication, and self responsibility also equal to personal self governing in the family and local community. It is truly the basis of the original governmental process that was established by our nations founders and that is Collegial Interactive Leadership.

It is not as simple as just laying out road map, though basically that is what it is. First we must establish a nationwide address, it must be made by a sincere person willing to do what is right for all the citizenry of our great country. And for all the people to hear and agree to do their part on a personal level. An open communication via all levels of society is what is needed to first get the ball rolling, that is the essence of Collegial Interactive Leadership. This clear and concise communication is the first steps in rolling out the road map for this countries future.

But it must start with involving all the people on many levels of society. Today ee see people dividing themselves into factions, groups, ethnic races and gender, while these may seem good for those individual groups, it is what divides not unifies. The founders of this nation knew that if we are divided we will fail to be a country. And right now that is what is happening to this country, a divisive element has been injected by a biased media and corrupt individuals in a direction that is meant to hurt and not truly help this country. No, what is needed in this country is not a divisive course but a unifying course.

Do we truly believes that all Men are Created equal and that each man has been given naturally endued rights to pursue personal Peace, Liberty and Prosperity?

If so we have a unifying course already existing for which we can start. We must unify not divide, for it is in unity we will find true liberty, peace and prosperity in all levels of our country. The first rule of unity is to be of the same mind. This comes by first opening the lines of bi-directional communicative dialog from the bottom up and from the top down known as Collegial Interactive Teamwork. Where the people present their desires and Ideas, then the leadership appointed by the vote can act in accordance to the needs of the whole community as a Nation on both a State and Federal level.

This method represents all people ad not just in the interest of selfish few, big business or banks. Tthough these entities are made up of people that work in these industries, it is not entity that runs our country, it is the people that are to run it. The establishment of this nations was a government by the people and for the people and it has not been that way for some time now. When the people are taken out of the equation of their government then the government is not for the people or by the people. It will be for the self interest of a few in the government. In this manner the people only suffer, being used to further a minority of peoples interests and not of the majority of the people. This is how far we have fallen from the tenants of this Nation it is no longer a nations for the people by the people but a nation of the few for the few.

But when was the last time this nation was ran by the people and for the people?

At best, the last time that was so was before 1888. that is when the fullness of self governing was taken away, via media push and the intellectuals of that day. these few thought they knew what was best for the nation, and they convinced us to give up those rights and we turned all self governing over to a centralized federal government that we are currently under. We had set a course that has proven to lead to the destruction of this Nation and not for its success.

First Step is that self governing must be reestablished in the personal and family structures. Then upward into the levels of society and local governments followed by the State and then the central Federal government. What is amazingly simple takes the most work yet the mechanism to self governing is already in place.

Getting away for the personal and family structures of self governing and accountability for the moment, I want to look at what is in place and what the problem is with that at the moment.

What we have in place at the moment is a singular central government over all people that we basically establishment since 1880’s, but without consideration at that times was our population numbers both within and by immigration has increased drastically and that individual life spans increased dramatically as well. This in itself caused the already overburdened central federal Government to be inefficient to handle the increased work load no matter how many people are employed. It has just spread itself to thin to be effective in governing. The federal government establishing all rule over such a large populous becomes ineffective because it cannot effectively communicate with and to the people on a local level, and so laws are passed over all without regard for the greater populace.

Again the problem is our federal government is to large to effectively handle the job of Governing equally all men. However the solution is in place that has been there since the beginning. Now, I know this may sound extremely simplistic. But after all solutions may seem simplistic but often are not. The whole solution lay before us and it is, the employed offices and buildings are there, the whole mechanism for getting this nation back on track is already in place. We just need to have the fortitude to see it through over a necessary period of time.

So here it is, and I will try to state it simplistically as possible, it is from this simplistic point a more complex course can be initiated.

If the problem is too large a central government then the Idea is to make it smaller. Remember that a smaller operation is far easier to maintain and leads to more effective governing. The idea is this, return or turnover a certain amount of the over burdensome offices that are currently in place to each State. I.e. welfare and social services, interstate commerce, Unemployment and disability services, Medical insurance, the IRS (with each States commitment to 10% of taxes given to the federal government for its operations), and all public lands not including heritage locations and Native Aboriginal Indian reservations. These are just a few.

But basically we would be limiting the federal Government to protection of our overall union from foreign attack, protection and security of our borders, International Customs and Immigration, our over seas interests i.e. embassies and foreign offices, Interstate Highway Maintenance programs and EPA standards to cover all States, but all of it would be contingent only in agreement with the States appointed leaders via Senate and Congress. But not limited to these.

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We just got too reliant on a central government to handle all these needs, that we ignored the fact that our central government is now spread too thin and can no longer handle the burden that we have placed on it. That being Government rules and we follow. That is the very Hierarchy Leadership we rejected in the British Monarchy in 1776, and we have now allowed to be established in our overall central federal government since the 1880’s.

We have effectively taken away the people from the equation of a government for the people, by the people. I am not talking about people being employed to carry out the actions of these offices, I am speaking of how effectively we have eliminated the power of the people in its government. We must return to a modified early governmental structure that was in place until the 1880’s, a Collegial Interactive Government where all were involved, where all are accountable, and where all are heard and treated equally without regards for race, gender, creed, and class.

I know this sounds overtly simplistic but it is not. Over all this will be a process that takes time as we design the details for transaction of government powers from one to the other. What we need to recognize that all the pieces are in place, we need only to divide the burden evenly to each State so our federal Government can focus on what it was originally created for protecting us from foreign and domestic threat and attack that would want to do harm to the Union of the States. And some added power to protect lands with in the States that are to be preserved for all to enjoy.

An Collegial Interactive Government is the only means that will stabilize our nation and allow for all to prosper personally as individuals and collectively as a Nation.

The government doesn't want us self sufficient and independant. They want to hold things over our heads.

I think you may have to adjust this thought train a little. If someone else seizes control, they will want it the same way.

Maybe if they put cows in charge we will do a lot better. If they piss us off we can make them into burgers.

I'll have to go back and read your OP better after I take a nap. There are some things in it that are good ideas.

I believe that in order for the changes you speak of to take place, three things need to happen first:

• judgement

• repentance

• divine intervention

TPTB's grip on the entire world is far too strong for this to happen simply by human efforts.

This is a far bigger issue than just governments or nations.

The issue is global and it transcends all borders and all governments.

Benjamin Disraeli was aware of this: "governments do not govern..."

So were many others as well:

Past presidents of the United States and other high profile political leaders have repeatedly issued warnings over the last 214 years that the U.S. government is under the control of an “invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.”

According to six of our former presidents, one vice-president, and a myriad of other high profile political leaders, an invisible government that is “incredibly evil in intent” has been in control of the U.S. government “ever since the days of Andrew Jackson” (since at least 1836). They “virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties… It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”

“A power has risen up in the government greater than the people themselves, consisting of many and various powerful interests, combined in one mass, and held together by the cohesive power of the vast surplus in banks.” – John C. Calhoun, Vice President (1825-1832)

From Washington to JFK: Former Presidents Warn About Illuminati

You have some good ideas, but the very first thing that has to happen is the re-establishment of the family unit as the basic self-governing entity in American life. And the only way I think that happens is for there to be some kind of systemic breakdown that renders all the other support networks that have usurped and undermined the role and importance of family impossible.

We have to be reduced to a condition where family will be the only possible structure to create the stability that will enable survival and allow us to thrive again.

originally posted by: ketsuko
You have some good ideas, but the very first thing that has to happen is the re-establishment of the family unit as the basic self-governing entity in American life. And the only way I think that happens is for there to be some kind of systemic breakdown that renders all the other support networks that have usurped and undermined the role and importance of family impossible.

We have to be reduced to a condition where family will be the only possible structure to create the stability that will enable survival and allow us to thrive again.

I broke away from that only to show in this blog there are ideas that function that were in our original government before the 1880's. Once Self governing was taking from the States it was effectively taken out of the families.

I have a seminar, Hopefully to be a webenar, that teaches how to have a true interactive family team. this self governing does start in the home. I have a saying, "Great Communication Makes For A Great Team. The Family is the Most Basic of Teams. Great Communication Starts in the Home".

Collegial Interactive Leadership/Government is just a larger team that runs on the same principles of open communication. I would choose men who can express truth, equality and prosperity clearly to help to get the initial plan rolling. I would not chose race baters, clique or group promoters, communist/socialist or any of those of the mindset to continue the hierarchical leadership we already find ourselves in.

I have seen both families and teams of people in such discord that they were malfunctioning as a unit. But after learning the dynamics of Collegial Interactive Communication and Teamwork they were completely turned around and are now functioning as a family and team unit.

a reply to: Murgatroid

that is exactly why the people must take back their country.

By the people taking back their country is the only way to effectively cut off their influence. that comes by an effective team not an individual. this is how the early government worked.

I was drawn to conclude that by the 1880's but yes it was seen as early as the 1830's.

Do you know who this unnamed secret society is?

If we knew their MO we might be able loosen their hand a bit so change can truly take place.

Yes, the correct spiritual intervention is needed.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Exactly, but we can't establish what you're looking for without getting back to a time where most people grow up in an actual family and not a tribe.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: ChesterJohn

Exactly, but we can't establish what you're looking for without getting back to a time where most people grow up in an actual family and not a tribe.

I was a missionary for many years among So East Asian tribes and they were nothing more than super large family because everyone was related in some way. When I married my wife also from that country I literally married a town because of the large family unit that it consisted of.

What people need are clear answers and the willingness to CHANGE.

Do we want to go forward into communism or do we want to go back to the basics of equality, peace and prosperity for all?

People will choose the later if given truth a chance.

a reply to: ChesterJohn

Do you know who this unnamed secret society is?

Possibly the Fabian Society is suspect.


The Family structure and Individualism in general are a big threat to any Progressive agenda.

I don't believe in unity, we should embrace diversity. All subgroups need to be exposed in simple words and visualizations and brought to people through media. Then of all subgroups 2 people should be assigned as representatives and spokespersons for any group. They would be like buffers and bridges so there can be harmony between groups.

People can never truly be equal unless everyone has a university degree.

originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: ChesterJohn

Do you know who this unnamed secret society is?

Possibly the Fabian Society is suspect.


The Family structure and Individualism in general are a big threat to any Progressive agenda.

You got that right.

That is why America must be a family of sorts, but the disciplines we want to impose on our govt should be practiced in the home. We all know that socialism/communism will never bring that about. even thought China has embraced some forms of capitalism it has retained its nations family status. But even that is slipping from their hands.

The problem with all the above ideas is simple - you all want to go back, back to imaginary past.

We can't go back, we must move forward synthesizing the best of the past with the most promising of the future.

Mankind's job is to find the middle way between idealizing the past and blindly believing in the future.

"Yesterday is a canceled check; tomorrow is a promissory note; today is the only cash you have -- so spend it wisely."

-- Kay Lyons


Read more: www.quoteworld.org...

a reply to: FyreByrd

The past is reality.

The future is always illusionary until it becomes the past.



Future failures become past history.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
Do you know who this unnamed secret society is?

Most on ATS call it 'TPTB' AKA 'The Powers That Be'.

I think 'The Powers That Shouldn’t Be' would be more appropriate...

They were referred to in ancient times as the Brotherhood of the Snake, AKA the Brotherhood of the Dragon.

They are also referrenced in scripture as well (Revelation 3:9).

George Washington called it the ‘Illuminati‘.

He wrote that they wanted to separate the people from their Government.

John Kennedy talked about them when he spoke of 'a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy'.

Danny Casolaro called them 'The Octopus'.

Fletcher Prouty called it ‘The Secret Team’.

Woodrow Wilson called it 'An Invisible Empire'.

Theodore Roosevelt and Charles A. Lindbergh Sr. called it 'An Invisible Government'.

Ralph Epperson called it ’The Unseen Hand’ .

Benjamin Disraeli called it 'The Hidden Hand'.

"The Illuminati started long before 1776, It has it's roots in the mystery religions which the knights Templar perpetuated. In Nimrod's time, Semiramis brought back the mystery religions which were from before the time of Noah. The Illuminati was just a different name by which these same entities existed. They can change their name a thousand times, but the same entities run it."

"The Old Testament is simply the history of how Satan became prince of the world, and caused our first parents to defect from God. Christ came to earth when the conspiracy reached the stage that, to use his own words, Satan controlled all those in high places. He identified the Money-Changers (Bankers) the Scribes, and the Pharisees as the Illuminati of his day.

Illuminati Roots

Henry Makow calls it a cult...

By adopting this chameleon strategy, this satanic cult infiltrated and subverted most governments and religions, and established an invisible tyranny without drawing much attention. ~ Henry Makow Ph.D.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
The problem with all the above ideas is simple - you all want to go back, back to imaginary past.

We can't go back, we must move forward synthesizing the best of the past with the most promising of the future.

Mankind's job is to find the middle way between idealizing the past and blindly believing in the future.

"Yesterday is a canceled check; tomorrow is a promissory note; today is the only cash you have -- so spend it wisely."

-- Kay Lyons


Read more: www.quoteworld.org...

No No No, I am not suggesting that at all. As a matter of fact I did say a MODIFIED version of it, just as you are saying a middle ground. Where it is ran by the people for the people not by a few for corporate interests as it is done today. By giving the power back to individual States we spread the work load that the one time Hierarchal Leadership/government (what we have today)is struggling to maintain.

The structure is already in place to go back to a modified form of Collegial Interactive Government. But the people would want to have it and would be required to practice it as well. Collegial Interactive teams have solved problems in the Airline and Medical Industries how much more it could help solve our Governing problems today.

It is not imaginary our country ran for half of it's life on the system that was for the people by the people in a form of Collegial Interactive Leadership.

One modification is to give the black man or any neglected race an equal voice in the running of this country, and give them the tools needed to better operate their families as well. Every school kid would be educated in the art of interactive communication form the home to the grave. A system of accountability is in smaller sections of government not the over burdened system we have today where there is virtually no accountability.

here is one of my blogs that will help you to clarify a little of what I am sharing. nicholsworld.wordpress.com...

This can work and it will if you are willing to be apart of it. a Centralized government is good as long as the country it governs stays small but with the large growth we have taken over the last 150 years it would be better to go to a system that distributes the the rule to the people in smaller sections so accountability is easily controlled.

Peace

originally posted by: xuenchen
Possibly the Fabian Society is suspect.

I believe that the Fabian Society is just one tiny tentacle of a massive octopus.

I believe it was founded in 1883.

I am convinced that this thing has been going on since the beginning of history.

William Guy Carr referred to it as a Luciferian conspiracy:

"I have worked since 1911 trying to find out why the human race can’t live in peace and enjoy the bounties and blessing God provides for our use and benefit in such abundance, it was 1950 before I penetrated the secret that the wars and revolutions which scourge our lives, and the chaotic conditions that prevail, are nothing more or less than the effects of the continuing Luciferian conspiracy." www.michaeljournal.org...

a reply to: Murgatroid

But the people are only controlled by that which they allow to control them.

Are you saying we are stuck with them just because they have been around so long?

you see Satan said and I quote, "All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it." these groups of men want the easy way to fortune and fame and promise to do his will in the world if he will but give it to them.

But there is one mightier than he in which we can and should trust to guide and lead. Not that I am saying our nations needs to promote Christianity but true Christian values never hurt anyone who practiced them believers or not.

Please don't take it wrong, I am not suggesting we make laws out of bible verses like making it mandatory that business be closed on Sunday. that would be forcing people to do something they are not convicted to do in their hearts and only causes strife and contention.

Anyway the process of Collegial Interactive Governance works no matter what race, religion, creed or gender the members of the team may be. Our country started out that way and it was not allowed to continue past the mid 1800's when men in power from the one mentioned above began to force things back into a Hierarchy Governance just without a Monarchy behind it.

Peace

a reply to: ChesterJohn

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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: FyreByrd

The past is reality.

The future is always illusionary until it becomes the past.

Future failures become past history.

The past is no more real then the future. It's just the stories we'll (individually and collectively) we tell ourselves to justify our behavior to self and others.

Look at "Atoms for Peace". We (USA) , the winner's, have to jusify the expensive and horror of our 'secret weapon'.

Didn't you have a teacher in school arrange 'an incident' in a class then, without discussion, had everyone write down 'their reality'?

Haven't you heard a family story about you so many times, that you believe it's true.

It's all made up.

The past, happened, but it isn't real and it certainly isn't the way you or I think it was.