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originally posted by: misskat1
a reply to: Harte
We may not know the actual name the ancients used to label their society. So, you are right, Mu and Lemuria are modern titles for an ancient civilization.
Le Plongeon actually got the name "Mu" from Charles Étienne Brasseur de Bourbourg who in 1864 mistranslated what was then called the Troano Codex using the de Landa alphabet. Brasseur believed that a word that he read as Mu referred to a land submerged by a catastrophe.[7] Le Plongeon then identified this lost land with Atlantis, and turned it into a continent which had supposedly sunk into the Atlantic Ocean:
"In our journey westward across the Atlantic we shall pass in sight of that spot where once existed the pride and life of the ocean, the Land of Mu, which, at the epoch that we have been considering, had not yet been visited by the wrath of Human, that lord of volcanic fires to whose fury it afterward fell a victim. The description of that land given to Solon by Sonchis, priest at Sais; its destruction by earthquakes, and submergence, recorded by Plato in his Timaeus, have been told and retold so many times that it is useless to encumber these pages with a repetition of it".[1]: ch. VI, p. 66
Le Plongeon claimed that the civilization of ancient Egypt was founded by Queen Moo, a refugee from the land's demise. Other refugees supposedly fled to Central America and became the Mayans.[4]
originally posted by: misskat1
a reply to: Harte
I totally apologize if my statement came off as rude. I would own it if that was my intention.
originally posted by: misskat1When I started this thread, I didnt intend to spark a debate on the illegitimacy of the land of Mu/Lemuria. And I dont think I have any new information to bring to light on the subject. It has been written and rewritten, argued and debated over, and I have nothing new to add to the argument.
I was focusing on the Cayce readings, about S. Oregon. I think I found the worship center that he was talking about, I shared the images I found, because that is something new to bring to the table. And its what I have to share on the subject. I really dont know the ancient name of the creators of this place. Cayce said they were from Mu.
originally posted by: misskat1
Debating weather these are earth art, or were created, was the only real issue for me. I must have written my opening statement in a confusing manner. I will reread it and see how I managed to confuse my readers.
Yes, I get that you believe the place is fictional. I dont think you revealed how you feel about the Cayce readings, but that is really what this is about.
Thank you for bringing this information to the table.
Source
Pareidolia is the experience of “seeing” something in a stimulus that’s simply vague and random.
You’ve felt it if you’ve ever seen images of animals or faces in clouds, or the man in the moon, or heard messages when records are played in reverse. It’s the basis for the Rorschach inkblot test.
This is a portrait of Elizabeth II as it appeared on the 1954 series Canadian dollar bill. So many people thought they saw the face of the devil in the queen’s hair that the bills were eventually withdrawn from circulation.
There’s nothing there — the portrait was adapted from a photograph.
originally posted by: misskat1
a reply to: Harte
I see that you regard Cayce, the same way I regard Blaskey and Nostrodamus, (too lazy to look up spellings) But, in my opinion, Cayce was special.
originally posted by: misskat1When you look at the first image I posted, can you seriously not see the detail in those Bees? Are you telling me that that is a natural formation?
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
ATS Members...
PLEASE, stop trying to discredit the OP for presenting what they have clearly states is their OWN views and opinions on information related to Edgar Cayce.
PLEASE, stop attacking misskat1 for being polite enough to even respond to your indirect and passively aggressive opinions of your own.
The OP is about something Edgar Cayce said in one of his readings and how it relates to a specific part of the geography of Oregon.
It's a conspiracy forum... there is a lot of conspiracy around a lot of what Edgar Cayce said and did in his life, that is to be expected. If you're going to try to discredit Cayce, you better bring a lot more than "China isn't a Christian nation" or "California didn't fall into the ocean yet..." - the guy had THOUSANDS of people that he helped medically with no medical background, and an 8th grade education.
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOneWhat I find funny is that people will throw things like that into the pot and say "Look, he was WRONG!"
Yet... they ignore the several hundred other things that he was right about, a few of which:
- He predicted his own death, to the day.
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
- He predicted the stock market crash of '29 (readings 2723-1 and 900-425)
The Stock Market Crash of 1929 was perhaps the most devastating financial disaster the United
States has ever seen. In 1925 Edgar Cayce was visited by a young doctor whom he told would soon
find himself in possession of a great amount of wealth. However, Mr Cayce warned this young man
of “adverse forces that will come then in 1929” and to be very careful with his money. (2723-1)
On another occasion Edgar Cayce explains the stock market crash six months before it happened,
warning of a great disturbance in financial circles. Cayce explains, “we may expect a
CONSIDERABLE break and bear market, see? This issue being between those of the reserves of
nations and of INDIVIDUALS, and will cause—unless another of the more STABLE banking
conditions come to the relief—a great disturbance in financial circles. This warning has been given,
see?” (900-425)
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne- He predicted WW2 (reading 416-7)
- He predicted the discovery of an undiscovered society known as the Essennes which led to finding the Dead Sea Scrolls (several hundred readings, but you can find info in 489-1, 489-3, 1010-17)
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOneThese are predictions that impacted large groups of people, and there were hundreds that were directed at individuals, of which, many people prefer not to share, not because they were wrong, but because they were RIGHT and in the readings, very personal details were told to these people, and that's why Cayce had so many people who felt passionately about his "ability".
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOneSo the other posters, if you have something that you'd like to add that is FACTUAL, in order to help others in this thread see different points of views or to come to their own conclusions, I encourage that and appreciate the few folks on here who have done that.
Cayce was self-educated beyond the 8th grade when he worked for a bookseller for several years before he was married (and for a year afterward.)
Cayce had a physician with him when he did medical readings, yet people simply can't acknowledge that physicians, not seers, actually help sick people, even back then.
Two days before it happened. My grandfather and mother did the same. Maybe I should start a foundation of my own.
The prediction comes down to "be careful with your money," a prediction being made daily in the run up to the crash by many market watchers at the time. In fact, this is still the case today. "Be careful with your money" is always good advice.
The Essenes were first documented by Pliny the Elder, the Roman author from the first century AD and certainly weren't "unknown," though that descriptor helps Cayce look awesome.
Testimonials are all there is.
You realize that even the evidence for Bigfoot is more than merely testimonials, I hope.
originally posted by: Harte
As was stated, neither Mu nor Lemuria ever existed. That is an absolute certainty.
During Casey's time, this wasn't known for certain.
Harte
Cayce's education was typical for his time. The man was talented. He wasn't stupid. He was obviously a gifted therapist/counselor. I don't think he was a purposeful fraud. Just a man who believed his own hype.
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
a reply to: Harte
Cayce was self-educated beyond the 8th grade when he worked for a bookseller for several years before he was married (and for a year afterward.)
Like I said, he had an 8th grade education. We can all claim "self-education", but that doesn't prescribe us to know what the hell we are talking about compared to someone with a full academic teaching. If you are using that as a measuring stick, than I am a self-taught PhD in 20 different areas of study.
Think what you want. There's no evidence that Cayce actually helped anyone at all, other than testimonials. None.
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
Cayce had a physician with him when he did medical readings, yet people simply can't acknowledge that physicians, not seers, actually help sick people, even back then.
I think you are mistaken. Cayce had the physician with him to validate whether or not what he was saying was true, if it was possible or if it was a complete farce. I don't know where "people can't acknowledge that physicians, not seers, actually help sick people..." is coming from, but it has nothing to do with whether or not people who AREN'T physicians, can still help sick people. Cayce stood very firmly on the influence the mind has on the body, so your comment is very trite.
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne
Two days before it happened. My grandfather and mother did the same. Maybe I should start a foundation of my own.
You should really get your facts straight instead of just bashing Edgar Cayce because you have a different belief system. You aren't going to convince people of anything here, take that garbage somewhere else. It would be one thing if you had FACTS... this is not a FACT as you so strongly advocate on your post.
originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOneFACT: it was four days. I don't care that you were off by 2 days, the FACT is that you were WRONG and misstated.
FACT: Cayce predicted the day he would die, and it was from a STROKE. How many people do you think predicted they would die from a stroke, accurately, to the day?
Source: "Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping Prophet" by Jess Stearn, 1967 Chapter 16. That's a number bigger than One, so you might want to get some help locating it.
In late November, as thin as a wraith, but still wearing a smile, he returned home to spend his last days, looking across the lake where he had fished so often. On New Year’s Day, 1945, he told visitors cheerfully, “It is all arranged. I am to be healed on Friday, the fifth of January.” His friends understood what he meant, when they arrived on Friday for his funeral. He would be elsewhere, wherever this healing would occur.