Iceland grieves after police kill a man for the first time in its history

a reply to: purplemer

I can not advise you on right or wrong because I am a former American Soldier.I do wish to express my sorrow, madness is rampant everywhere,and now you are facing it.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Why would they riot if it was so obvious how much the police cared about it. And it was the first time it happened. People riot in the US because it is so clear how much the police hate the people they police.

a reply to: MALBOSIA

People riot in the US because it is so clear how much the police hate the people they police.

People protest because of bad police officers.
Thugs who don't care about their own people riot.

This is pure stupidity.

How are we suppose to maintain a hate and fear relationship between cops and civilians. This is no way to get respect from your fellow citizen.

What are they going to suggest next to kick out the people that manipulate the financial market?

Obviously Iceland needs to be liberated.

I find it fascinating that a Nation descended from the Vikings (terrifying, barbaric, ruthless, raiding, thieves) have come to be known as the envy of the modern age when it comes to level of civil respect and care.

There is no greater reason to stop using the past history of peoples, centuries old, to define their descendants in the modern age.

God Bless,

a reply to: purplemer

Apples and Oranges compared to America. Sprinkle in some of our finer inner city entitled citizens, some like the ones that murder 9 year old children and I would bet the cops would be very busy with their guns over there.

Edit to Add: i was just reading it is very hard to get into that country if you are of African origin.
www.encyclopediaofafroeuropeanstudies.eu...

I think we need to dig a little deeper when comparing a society that wants to preserve their culture with a society that is committing cultural suicide via multiculturalism. Apples & Oranges.

If I get the money I am going to live in Iceland...

originally posted by: truckdriver42
a reply to: purplemer

Apples and Oranges compared to America. Sprinkle in some of our finer inner city entitled citizens, some like the ones that murder 9 year old children and I would bet the cops would be very busy with their guns over there.

Edit to Add: i was just reading it is very hard to get into that country if you are of African origin.
www.encyclopediaofafroeuropeanstudies.eu...

I think we need to dig a little deeper when comparing a society that wants to preserve their culture with a society that is committing cultural suicide via multiculturalism. Apples & Oranges.

Imagine that, if you're selective about who you let into your country you can help control crime rates. You'd think the USA would take note.

I like the approach of the Icelandic police. It seems that they have a "ask questions first and don't shoot" policy. I'm sure it works well over there. Here it wouldn't work as well, due to the "Wild Wild West" culture that seems to turn legendary badmen into legendary heroes.

originally posted by: DeepImpactX

originally posted by: purplemer

After witnessing what is happening in the US at the moment..............you have to wonder if we are doing something very wrong..

There's no wondering about it really. When you compare the U.S. to nearly every other modern country in the world, we are by far the most violent. That's our answer to the problems that most other people talk about rationally......like civilised adults....... in order to resolve their issues.

I found it interesting that the writer of the article felt a need to say that the man had a history of mental issues. Apparently, in Iceland, sane people don't do what he did. In America, we don't see it that way. We see it as a constitutional right to own something that has one purpose and one purpose only. To kill. And if you use it indiscriminately like that man did, you don't have mental issues but rather anger issues that pills can fix. We will spend all day to find rationalizations for our violent behavior while other countries aren't even violent in the first place.

Wow, DeepImpact. I hate to say it, but I must be doing something wrong then. I mean, I own several guns, and sometimes, I even get angry. And yet, I've never killed anyone. Nor have any of my guns. I've not even gotten violent against anyone.

So please tell me, DeepImpact, what am I doing wrong, if this angry gunowner hasn't killed anyone, but, according to you, should have. What am I doing wrong???

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: MALBOSIA

People riot in the US because it is so clear how much the police hate the people they police.

People protest because of bad police officers.
Thugs who don't care about their own people riot.

police have been caught trying to turn protest into riot numerous times. Even here in Canada. What does that say?

Yes I said riot 8n my post but the point is that police seem to like the riots or they wouldnt try and start them

Holland was much better like 20-40 years ago. Political figures didn't need protection/bodyguards as well. A much closer community etc.
I guess many reasons for it things change for the worse.

Perhaps you could compare it with the meat industry, nowadays it's more commercial then ever, so you have these big meat producing factory's not farmers (at least far less) who raised and had some feelings with their stock where they where even grazing in the sun.

So perhaps with people it also became more 'commercial', more unfriendly, hardly know the people who lives close, no time.. Basicly more about money then ever.. less personal, you knew people at the bank, you don't come there and when you do you don't know 1 name/face most often.
You could park your car free or for a very small fee when in the centre/shopping mall, now you pay lots of money and you will get a ticket very fast.
The feeling the government doesn't do stuff for the people, but for big business or something like that, anyways a big disconnect. And now of course the EU, another giant appearing.
Schools, hospitals, becoming huge, city's joining together as 1 big city with 1 big town Hall. in the name of; this is cheaper and more easy but on the same time it only gets more&more expensive and way less personal, almost becoming a product yourself. Also of course the gap growing rapidly between poor and rich, where as we saw/see in the US a disappearing middle class.
I guess I forgot lots of stuff.. but anyways it's a slowing growing progress with many causes and when reached it's hard to pin point the main reason.

& of course more people = more problems.
It's like becoming like grasshoppers...

a reply to: purplemer

Iceland is a country that lacks diversity and it also doesn't have the problems that goes along with diversity. Everyone there sees themselves as one people, versus everyone here, The United States, likes to divide themselves up into different groups and call out all the reasons why we are different. Americans love to believe they are better than people from other countries while secretly disliking each other for their own differences in this country. Some are not so secret about it, but the truth is there is a genuine distrust of each other. This genuine distrust continues with our Police and even Military. The distrust isn't of all people but instead of anyone you do not personally know. Our media loves to fuel the distrust, and then there are the civic leaders who's entire income depends on this distrust continuing. I'm not sure that level of distrust exists in other countries, especially other countries who lack diversity like a Japan or an Iceland. I'm also not sure it will even cease to exist in our country unless the majority of the country is breed into mixed race people over time.

Just my thoughts.

why dont the iceland police uses stun / tazer gun ? or flushed him out with teargas and then stun him ?

Whether we like it or not, whether its politically correct or not, forcing muticulturalism onto countries/cities has proven to be unworkable. Cultures clash..end of story. Even in the countries where there are just a couple of different but similar cultures i.e. India for example there are problems..Hindus hate Sikhs and vice versa Muslims hate everyone, caste systems with their untouchables...it causes strife and contempt because each party think they are better than the other

One country...one culture...zero problems. Reason? Because the people aren't continually walking on eggshells, scared to speak for fear of "offending", constantly making exceptions for other cultures, having racism thrown into every argument, having to exude the utmost tolerance whilst not getting the same in return and so on and so forth. They are able to live together and work together for the common good of all instead of having to ensure a dozen other cultures aren't offended in some miniscule way!

No amount of legislation can force people to get along and in fact the opposite can and often does occur as a result

Well, my morning is no longer happy, I think that will haunt me most of the day, perhaps, I type 'perhaps' that guy is better off? I am not typing shoot all loonies, just typing that perhaps that particular guy is better off.
I also feel sorry for the policeman who had to shoot the madman, cannot be very nice for him.(the policeman).

originally posted by: buntalanlucu
why dont the iceland police uses stun / tazer gun ? or flushed him out with teargas and then stun him ?

Like having to fire their pistols, no one in Iceland ever thought they would need to kit up like an American policeman.

originally posted by: amazing
So, what's the difference between Iceland and USA when it comes to gun violence.

What also is the difference between Chicago and New York?

Why does Chicago have higher gun deaths than New York or Iceland?

Is it gun laws, poverty, police effectiveness...this is the answer to all of our questions. Whatever that answer my be.

Poverty is the primary reason for alot of ills in the world nothing else !



Anyone think the reason for the arming of Scottish police due to possible discontent and civil unrest following the referendum ?

originally posted by: purplemer
I think in the light of recent events this may prove a little food for thought for some.

"The nation was in shock. This does not happen in our country," said Thora Arnorsdottir, news editor at RUV, the Icelandic National Broadcasting Service. She was referring to a 59-year old man who was shot by police on Monday. The man, who started shooting at police when they entered his building, had a history of mental illness

www.pri.org...

When I read this I was like wow.. It shows a very different attitude the police have in different cultures. Even though the man was armed and shooting at police they apologised to the family of the deceased.

After witnessing what is happening in the US at the moment and the arming of police in scotland you have to wonder if we are doing something very wrong..

purp..

You all should move to Scotland then. I wish you would.