Dorian Johnson Recants Media Statement ?

Let the place burn then they can wonder if it was all worth it when they truly have nothing. Happened here and the city died. Now the white people are taking over and putting in microbreweries and places to eat . Civizialiation at last.

a reply to: Xcathdra

Department policy, does not override the Article 6 of the Constitution. If IA hides behind policy when it comes to clear violations, they are accessories after the fact and should also face a Grand Jury. Felony rescue comes to mind. You offer an example of the Fox guarding the henhouse, not justice.

United States v. WIlliams 504 U.S. 36. Who does the Grand Jury report to? No one. They are the 4th branch of government. It belongs to the people, and you can't stop it. A real Grand Jury can investigate at will, if they suspect any laws have been violated. I have questions if Title 18 USC 242 was violated, in any way shape or form. Alleged crimes go straight to a Grand Jury. It is their duty. Besides, what does Article 6 say about Treaties.

That is what is missing. The Grand Jury are the auditors to ensure government is following the law. Are they?

What is a principal Was the detainment lawful? If not, said officer abused his power, under color of law. Or, do you disagree with the Magna Carta too?

No escape. The light switch is now on. This is going to a Grand Jury. If a true bill is given, it goes to trial.

PS, Blacks law 4th edition is part of my own personal Bible. The Preamble of the book, explaining what is law and what it truly is for, is self explanatory. Red Herrings will not work.

a reply to: Kali74
Speak English please when directing comments my way. Say what you mean in plain English! Or the hall monitor will be along and admonish you... perhaps not though since you seem to defending their oppressive demeanor! Oh and please stay on topic, which is Dorian Johnson recanting his earlier lies.

originally posted by: kalunom
If this is true and Wilson is not charged, Ferguson is going to explode. Even if this is not true and it starts circulating - Ferguson is going to explode.

I say let it explode. The police should withdraw and let the community go as it may. It's obvious the community does not want the police presence there anyway. It will burn itself out one way or another.

Maybe, just maybe, the good and fair-minded people of that community will prevail instead of the larcenous, violent and bigoted people who are influencing the the conversation. Maybe they'll start to police their own community and demand civility.

a reply to: Not Authorized
Detainment was justified after Mike Brown and Dorian Johnson were jaywalking and obstructing traffic on a public roadway, which is a common practice in the 'hood. Being that Mike Brown decided to be defiant and hostile against the cop (because he had just robbed the Ferguson Market) 2nd degree felony, he brought about his own demise. So he wasn't "detained" at all. He was asked to get out of the road! His hatred for cops caused him to go full ghetto thug. It was a good shooting.

a reply to: Mikeultra

Nice opinion. I will wait for the Grand Jury to investigate it via presentment. They have all the legal tools to find the truth. It is probably somewhere in between.

Two wrongs, do not make a right.

Let the system work as intended. This officer does have rights too.

Lady Justice is blind. No favoritism.

originally posted by: Bilk22

originally posted by: kalunom
If this is true and Wilson is not charged, Ferguson is going to explode. Even if this is not true and it starts circulating - Ferguson is going to explode.

I say let it explode. The police should withdraw and let the community go as it may. It's obvious the community does not want the police presence there anyway. It will burn itself out one way or another.

Maybe, just maybe, the good and fair-minded people of that community will prevail instead of the larcenous, violent and bigoted people who are influencing the the conversation. Maybe they'll start to police their own community and demand civility.

It is too close to St Louis for the good to take over and beat the bad. Plenty of people are going there from St Louis to get in on the thuggery. And yes, this is word coming from St Louis PD to me personally. I feel the same....pull everyone out and let them sort the town themselves for a week or two.

a reply to: Mikeultra

Hypocrisy... lol (that means laugh out loud).

originally posted by: Libertygal
a reply to: Greven

Wrong. Johnson was not an accomplice. Stop
claiming that he was.

Additionally, by making this argument, you are
accusing the Ferguson Chief of Police of lying.
URGENT - Missouri Dorian Johnson No Robbery Charges

Lies.

www.nationaljournal.com...

Dorian Johnson, the man police have said they believe was Brown's accomplice in the robbery, has been cleared of criminal wrongdoing, Jackson said.

The police cheif used the word accomplice AFTER clearing him of wrongdoing in the burglary.

Big fat cluestick.

That did NOT clear him of charges in a capitol offense of felony murder if he is charged by any other agency. He can still be charged by police, as well, UNLESS, and until, he gains immunity for his testimony.

HIS word. NOT MINE.

I seem to have missed this last night, but you are accusing me of lying.

And in accusing me of lying, you are saying that the police chief called him an accomplice.

I have shown you that the police chief totally exonerated him, but you are claiming that the police chief said that he was an accomplice.

In claiming this, you are using words a media source wrote to describe the situation as proof - not direct words from the police chief.

That's absurd. Either apologize or produce proof that the police chief called Johnson an accomplice after saying he had committed no crime.

p.s. it wasn't burglary, your statements are inconsistent

a reply to: Greven
Read the incident report! It's there in black and white. Very easy to comprehend. He was facing charges of 2nd degree robbery, a felony! In exchange for not be charged he has become a witness for the state. And he's going to back up Officer Wilsons version of what happened! Holder and Nixon can pander to the blacks as much as they want, but the righteous officer is not going to be railroaded to appease angry black folks, as their dear leader calls people, lol!

www.nytimes.com...

a reply to: Mikeultra

was a good shooting.

No shooting would of been better.

a reply to: hillbilly4rent
It had to be done... kill or be killed. Would it have been more politically correct if the officer was killed instead? Good shooting is jargon meaning it was justified. Mike Brown was a bad man. That's the facts of the matter. Just because they pull out old photos from years ago when he was a young lad looking innocent and harmless doesn't make it so. Just like in the Martin case. Reality in both cases is they were both thugs.

a reply to: Mikeultra
Again, by making this argument, you are accusing the Ferguson Chief of Police of lying.
URGENT - Missouri Dorian Johnson No Robbery Charges

"We have determined he [Johnson] committed no crime," Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said Friday.

a reply to: Greven
With 2nd degree robbery charges hanging over his dreads, he cooperated with the police and is going to be a witness for the state. Just as LibertyGal predicted. She really knows the deal of what's going on here. You should listen more carefully, you'll learn more.

a reply to: Mikeultra
Either you can't read or you actually are accusing the chief of lying.
Do you see what the report says about the case in the upper right?
EXCEPTIONALLY CLEARED.
Case is closed.
There is no charge against anyone (Brown is dead, Johnson didn't do anything).
Therefore he is not an accomplice.

a reply to: Greven
I can read just fine. Exceptionally cleared means they will not charge him with 2nd degree robbery as long as he lives up to the agreement that was reached for his truthful testimony about how the shooting really went down (the officers version aka the truth). Not the lies he told Al Sharpton on MSNBC! It has been cleared with the exception that he stops lying and testifies to the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help him God!

a reply to: Mikeultra

Peddle your story and opinion to someone else. I am not buying it.

Think that is the only link? What about law enforcement admitting they do not know the law?

Title 18 USC 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law
Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

I suggest you get to studying what it really is. Rapidly.

Nixon may have been in the know about the case never going to trial but figured he had to try to snow the folks who want a lynching so bad they can taste it. But Holder's another story, the guy is either a complete fool or actually out to try to turn back race relations 60 years. I'd say he's both. He deliberately sabotaged the Zimmerman trial and did it so there'd be a race war if Zimmerman was found not guilty. It didn't happen but he's trying it again here.

a reply to: Not Authorized
Yikes, easy on the bold faced race card you're plastering on the board. I wasn't peddling anything to you! I was stating my opinion which is guaranteed to me by the 1st Amendment in the Constitution of the United States of America! Deal with it!

a reply to: Mikeultra

Of course. But racist opinions, are still racist. I remember your 'Hood comment. Has nothing to do with living in poverty, right?

rac·ism
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Your colors are showing. You do not want the truth, you just want to defend one side. Why?

Try a neutral point of view once. It is liberating.