My son disappeared for 4 hours when he was three. Thoughts on what happened to him, please.

originally posted by: quirkygirl
I wanted to thank Glad to be His for the kind words and all of you for your research and information. I haven't had a chance to watch Unholy Communion yet, but I will. I also want to thank Murgatroid for all the information posted. I read through it and found it very interesting.

So many of you have written about experiences you've had or know of that are similar to my son's. Don't you think it peculiar that all these children have similar accounts of time missing and being far from the safety of their homes? I want answers now more than ever and perhaps my own child's experience is not related, but maybe it is.

I went and saw Daniel yesterday during his break at his workplace. I told him I outed him on this website. He smiled and said he understood. I asked him if he had any more details he was willing to share and he said he hasn't been bothered with the dream in a year or so and he'd rather not force himself to think about it. I get that and I will not discuss this with him. I have to respect him. I asked his girlfriend if he ever mentions it to her and she said only when he had the dream, which she also said was a long time ago. I asked what her take on it was and she said she didn't have any ideas but she really hopes we find out because she feels it does trouble him.

I am going to contact my ex and see if he's willing to discuss this now that Daniel is grown. I'm waiting until after I think David Paulides has contacted him though. I don't want him forewarned because I don't want him to prepare something or go grab that report. If he is hiding something, I want him caught off-guard. I will say I do not think he is, as he was just as upset over this as I was, but so many of you have questioned his validity.

Again, thank you for your interest and insight.

Unless someone confesses to having abducted your son or, at least, having seen him wandering near the house and having transported him to the college, this doesn't seem to be solvable. It occurred to me that he might have slipped out of bed and gone outdoors before his father, thinking he was in bed, locked the door. Any decent person seeing a toddler wandering around would have picked him up. A person without much life experience, for example a young college student who lived on campus in the dorms,might have taken him to the college rather than the police station. Usually, the most mundane explanation is the correct one. If you misplace your keys, it's logical to first look in your purse, pockets, on countertops, etc. rather than jump to the conclusion that they were taken by an alien or supernatural being. I am not suggesting that you are leaning toward the latter conclusion, but some in here are suggesting that scenario. I'm not suggesting that very strange things don't happen, but very non-strange things happen far more often.

As a 12 year old I had an experience but to me I know what it was.
It was horrible and scary.
I know in my heart more things happened but I can't remember.
Last thing I remember was them walking towards my bedroom door and stopping, after that I lost time.

I do believe that he doesn't remember because
1) if it was et's, they blocked his memories, maybe the experience was too traumatic.
2) If it was a person that took him, somehow, it was traumatic for him so he blocked the memories himself.

But as a 3 year old... I remember nothing from when I was 3, hehe.

It does sound like a classic alien abduction.
Only your son truly knows in his heart, with or without full memory.

When I told my mom, she didn't believe me and just told me I had vivid imagination.
I told a friend who told the rest of her friends which got me teased at school.
After that I never told anyone anything and I worked very hard to block everything out, which led to a very depressing life without any support or help. Because I knew it was real no matter how hard I told myself it was my imagination. (i've had more things happen after that.)

So, for you to be supportive of your son and open minded to even consider possible et's, that's great.
And if he ever chooses to tell you, or wants to remember, be supportive no matter what he shares with you.

This is another interesting thread with a lot of creepy, weird member stories, in case anyone missed it.

Worth a read!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

"Tell your creepy forest stories" if you need to search for it.

(Im not sure if I linked it right)

a reply to: quirkygirl Really would like more info on holes in his ears . Like dents ,cuts ? Did they go away

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They were very small holes, like a large shot. They didn't last long, 2 weeks if I remember right (it's been 22 yrs, so...) I know for a fact he has nor scars, marks or ear problems since.

From what I've read/seen 3 years old is a little young to be abducted. Most children that are abducted are around 7-8 years old.

And, from what I've read, if these abductions are real -- they can implant false memories to make you remember whatever they want you to remember.

The thing about the ear is interesting, as I've read that behind the ear is where most implants these days are being found.

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John Edward Mack M.D. (October 4, 1929 – September 27, 2004) was an American psychiatrist, writer, and professor at Harvard Medical School. He was a Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer, and a leading authority on the spiritual or transformational effects of alleged alien abduction experiences.

While serving overseas I asked and one person had suggested an old turkish tale about a demon. There are a few different names for different types. Most common is the jinn, which can be referred to by an incubus or succubus (m/f) but the turks call it a karabasan. Some fornicate with the victim but the karabasan is known to strangle people in their sleep. Simply what we call sleep apnea.

A lot of strange things happen. I once dissappeared for five hours only to be returned by my kidnapper. Long story short I went on a day with this guy who claimed to be jewish on the internet.. I'm jewish too. At first he was really nice and normal. Then he asked me in his car in a hypnotic voice. I entered. He molested me. He continued to call me and ask in a hypnotic voice to see him, and to molest me all the time. Sometimes he'd tell me personal information I hardly told anyone about myself to me. Once he took me to a forest and raped me, and when I begged him to return me home, he did. It was so weird.
Also once I was taking a walk outside, and said hello to this guy I always see walking his dog. He told me to go get a motel. For some reason I complied and ran outside in the middle of midnight, to a motel. Suddenly I saw a man with a little dog walking his dog different to the previous one. I followed him when he turned around with a knife and threatened me. I had to run home and called the police. They said they didn't find anyone. To this day no one believes me about anything that happened to me. The police won't even believe me. They've written me off as schizophrenic instead because the stories are so outlandish. My dad is an archivist and worked for different archives in his lives. Well he says a lot of really strange things tend to happen in north america.
I used to sleep in this room closetest to our neighbour's house. well there was always weird piano music coming out of there. Id hear it all the time. One day I was browsing the internet, when I clicked on a pornography link by mistake. It was the same music being played in that house. They were shooting pornography apparently. It was so creepy Apparently tons of people dissappear and end up in sexual slavery in north america...it's not that uncommon.

I don't know if I'm doing this correctly, but this is the response I received from the Police Department.



Anyone have any other suggestions? I did ask if the campus police would have a report but they haven't responded yet to that inquiry.

originally posted by: quirkygirl
I don't know if I'm doing this correctly, but this is the response I received from the Police Department.

Anyone have any other suggestions? I did ask if the campus police would have a report but they haven't responded yet to that inquiry.

It's too small to read, although, using a magnifying glass, I did manage to make out the part that says no police report was generated. Could you please post what it says, word-for-word?

If no police report was generated, the incident either never happened or the police were never involved. In either case, you were misinformed.

a reply to: Tangerine

since this can be magnified to view, I'll just let people do that. The incident DID happen but my ex handled it and didn't want a police report which was why no police report was generated through the city PD. I'm waiting on a callback from the campus police records department.

I didn't make this up, it happened.

originally posted by: quirkygirl
a reply to: Tangerine

since this can be magnified to view, I'll just let people do that. The incident DID happen but my ex handled it and didn't want a police report which was why no police report was generated through the city PD. I'm waiting on a callback from the campus police records department.

I didn't make this up, it happened.

I'm not suggesting that you made it up. I am suggesting that your ex-husband didn't tell you the truth.

IF a call was made to the police dispatcher, there would be a record. If the police responded to the call, there would be a police report. A two-year-old child alone and improperly dressed found wandering at a college would have raised questions about abandonment, neglect, or abduction. Even if the police report included a quick resolution and the return of the child to a parent, it would say something. What you're implying is that your husband had the power to get the police department to deep-six the dispatch record and a police report. HIghly unlikely.

I suggest that you go to the police department where you currently live and tell them you're writing a book about a similar situation. Ask if it would be possible, in such a situation, for there to be no police report generated. I think you'll find out that it's highly unlikely. A responding police officer who didn't write a report would be risking his/ her job. WHy would they do that, especially for a newly-hired officer?

Also, there's still the matter of why a father whose child might have been abducted and might again be abducted, wouldn't want an investigation. It simply makes no sense. Try to emotionally separate yourself from this and imagine that it involved people you don't know. Would it add up?

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Let us know when you get a response from the campus police. If they tell you they have no record of this happening and it doesn't satisfy you, you might want to contact other police officers and dispatchers who worked with your husband at the time this allegedly happened. If they have no recollection of it, you can bet your bottom dollar it never happened. Gossip about an incident like this involving the child of an officer would have spread like wildfire throughout the police department and everyone in the department would have known about it. That's another reason why your husband's claim that he didn't want a police investigation makes no sense (if the event actually occurred). Everyone in the police department would have already known about it, anyway.

If doing all this fails to produce any record or recollection of the event, will you accept that it never happened? If you won't accept that it never happened, will you ask yourself why you desperately want to believe it happened?

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I'm sorry, I just saw this post today and so missed this radio show on Tuesday. My apologies.

Apparently, my inquiry has opened up a huge can of worms for two police departments. The records girl for the campus police cannot find any report of this, however, several police officers recall this incident and how weird it was and she is going to see if they will contact me and tell me what they remember.

I doubt it will be anything new, as I'm sure they aren't going to give me anymore information 22 years later than they did when it happened, but we will see. They are also going to check another site to see if a possible report is there.

I'm being told there should have been a report done, yet neither department has one.

I feel like I'm on a wild goose chase.

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It is not up on the rewind page yet,
but you will be able to listen to it when it gets put up.

You can go here:
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To catch your thread on Into The Fringe and any of our past shows.
Am unsure when this one will be put up, but usually within a week.

a reply to: Darkblade71

Thank you so much. I'm so upset I missed this. I'll make sure to listen to it once it's posted.

Wow, what a thread. This was very interesting to read, thank you for sharing your story.

First, I want to say how glad I am you don't push your son to get his memories back. Very good to know you respect his boundaries and decisions.

Second, I can only imagine how frustrating this must be for you. I've read this in an hour and I REALLY want to know what happened... sitting on this for twenty two years cannot have been easy.

I have no theories, since I have no knowledge about anything like this. I do have to say that the fact that there are no reports is weird as hell. Someone obviously didn't want any official documents about the incident out there.

Your ex-husband does come off as suspicious in this scenario... but I can see it being too overwhelming for him, which could've made him act like he did. When confronted with things with no clear and obvious explanation, we either get obsessed with it and want to get to the bottom of it... or we convince ourselves it's no big deal and let it go completely. Sounds like he let it go, assuming his side of the story is completely true.

Good luck with everything and I'll be checking this thread regularly. Here's hoping there'll be answers in the future.