the green flame

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: BigTrain

It's a hybrid. They started with an older design, updated the materials, then during wind tunnel testing they redesigned into a somewhat new aircraft. There are portions that are recognizable as an older design, and parts that aren't.

I want to see it! It's got to be based on the -71...such a beautiful and capable aircraft doesn't go away? I hope.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Id say its probably closer to the XB-70 in terms of length versus the -71.

I always thought as you went faster, you had to add a bit of length as well. Maybe it does look like -71, but maybe longer., and maybe the changed the wing sweep and possibly the angle of the vertical stabilizers.

Maybe a -70 and -71 hybrid.

And they did learn A LOT about those angles outer wingtips on the -70

May be more in the shape of the Kingfish project?

www.dreamlandresort.com...
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double post sorry

Looks like second one could be the F117 companion..

a reply to: BlackDog10

The first one sounds an awful lot like the "missing link" between the XB-70 and the Green Lady

And I have a hunch about what the second one is, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the F-117 companion...

Here's a hint: what aircraft do you know of, real or hypothetical, that has a delta planform, a massive, angular fuselage, large vertical stabilizers, big trailing edge flaps, and engine exhausts just above the wing that might look square/rectangular when viewed from behind....

Second hint: it's old, and would probably be much closer to the green lady than it was to the F-117, both philosophically and operationally...

a reply to: Barnalby

I have an idea,
You have an older aircraft that is,

the "missing link" between the XB-70 and the Green Lady

, that flew for quite a while, quite a while ago, but was subsequently retired, to be revitalized with modern materials and propulsion technology, as zaph alluded to.

In the past couple of years I've seen references to a possible xb70 derivative, that has had an on again off again development life.

One of the links has very similar shape to this sonic boom reduction CFD model:



This would also explain the "strange" nose, big tail (where engines would have to be), delta wings and rumbling noise of powerful engines which would be necessary for supersonic flight.

Also, timeframe would be just right.

a reply to: robi1000

That white aircraft might be Lockheed's quiet boom demonstrator.

As for the green lady, I'd go with a modified Kingfish (as has already been mentioned in this thread).

a reply to: Northernhollow




The Kingfish does look like a platform that would be ripe for modification for stealth, as well...

Maybe this? Getting closer?

a reply to: Barnalby

How about the proposed SAC bomber? That had disposable wing-tips?

One heck of a design, looked like a bigger XB-70?

not to interject but allow me to crawl out from under my rock for a second.

didn't somebody say the green lady was bigger than the sr-71? would that basically exclude a kingfish design which I think was smaller?

my theory is the king fish was cool n all. but what the greenlady can do is something I don't think a kingfish planform could / can do.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

*cough* Valkyrie*cough*


seriously read up on it, they thought/planned lenticular SAM/interceptor missile

a reply to: MystikMushroom

I think this and the similar one from the link I posted is the F-121 Sentinel. Possibly the same aircraft Nick Cook saw on a Skunk Works poster.. 'ASTRA'. Of course it could all be made up however....

a reply to: BlackDog10

Pretty sure it is...but the shape could be similar to something real.

a reply to: BlackDog10

ASTRA wasn't a specific platform name. It was a program name.

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Maybe this? Getting closer?

Nahhh... look at the pic I posted.
With the models from the 50's.

Then look at the link I posted with the nasa testing silent sonic boom designs.

Put one and two together.

And you have an idea of what this plane probably looks like.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Boscombe down?