Something is happening to me

a reply to: Subconsciously Correct

Or you could see a doctor about those chest pains..

Just saying.

Or, which is often overlooked, is the possibly she was a micro-expression of yourself. Perhaps because you are one who meditates and are capable of harnessing energy that without understanding of this energy, you infect her. She however is ill equipped to handle the energy as you are whic is why she "acts" as you "feel".

Instead of being a passive receiver try transmitting soothing thoughts to those under stress.

Perhaps due to 'cleansing' and 'meditation' you experienced physical, psychological and emotional sensitivity on levels you didn't know before and this manifested itself physically.

I have experienced physical symptoms of stress before from being around stressful people. There are ways of physical control such as breathing deeply and concentrating on keeping calm and not getting emotionally involved that counteracts the physical symptoms of anxiety that you described.

Thanks all for the replies. I have sent positive thoughts to the one who was upset with me yesterday. I believe in my stance yesterday but hold no ill will or remorse against her. We just disagree and her reaction has more to do with herself and not me.

I'm not seeing a Dr because the chest pain was similar to what used to happen to me in meditation. I would feel it harden like a rock and then release with tears streaming down my face. This was me releasing negative energy repressed from past experiences. The key is to not attach to what's happening and allow it to "go through" you. It was just crazy that someone else's anger can now have that affect on me too, but I know it isn't from me so I just let it pass.

No physician is needed. It's just energy blockage.

I have quite a few experiences like the OP. I walk into a room and I pick up and take on the mood of the room before even speaking to anyone. When I was younger I didn't know what was going on. I would talk to someone who was angry or upset by the time they were finished they had little to no anger left and were in a great mood.

I on the other hand would then have those emotions. As I got older I realized what was happening and now I don't take on the other persons emotions normally, I just become completely drained. It was a difficult thing to learn to recognize and sort out if the emotions that I am feeling are my own or the other persons. I don't always succeed in sorting them out especially when the other persons emotions are overwhelming or strong.

Thank you for your post! I too have been having similar reactions over the last few months with increasing intensity. I resonated in particular to your comments about food intake. I try to eat healthy but have always been a cheater. Recently, however, often if I eat processed food or meat, I almost have to spit it out. Having not had fast food in several months, I thought to have a Wendy's burger. I gave half of it to the dog.

I also understand what you are saying about watching others behavior and seeing yourself in it. So many times I have said to myself, 'So that's what it looks like!!' when I see someone behaving in a way I might have previously. It feels like I am learning some last minute lessons or something.

Picking up on other people's vibrations is also something I can relate to. I carefully avoid crowds and shopping malls unless I absolutely have to. And while this may sound 'out there,' I can see and, more importantly feel, so clearly the Matrix Morpheus described and why he warned that until people are unplugged from the system they are a part of the system and, as such, are the enemy and will work, on behalf of the system, to unravel any progress we may make in escaping it's clutches.

I've always liked popular music and still do. However, I have found myself listening more and more to classical music as I will sometimes find the pop music jarring.

As I think about it, and in line with what you are suggesting, it would appear that some of us, though perhaps all of us in different ways, are going through a kind of clearing process which is propelling us towards a more elevated or refined state of being. Away from heavy foods, dark and frenetic energies and emotions and big noisy crowds in favor of their opposites. Maybe we are just the canaries in the coal mine starting to sing a different tune.

Meditation is as mainstream of an approach as it gets, every technique has boundaries and gatekeepers, some of you wants out past those but everything around, INCLUDING, every SINGLE FORM of teaching here, is meant to make sure you never fully realize yourself.

I advise you to ask yourself strongly and CAREFULLY, what you are, and what you are going to do about it....

Freaky yes, but the answers within, are 1000's of times more potent than any meditation could ever be.

Just wait till your actual heart rolls around in your chest, and starts magnetically affecting everyone around, then you will see some SERIOUS robots out there, try not to troll them to much, they are mostly helpless.

I had a very intense tingling/vibration session tonight during meditation which finally prompted me to write to you guys on here because many of you can relate to these type of conversations.

It is normal. But I was at a doctor when I first had the tingling in my hands since I thought there was something wrong with my body. It is just energy/light/chi or whatever name you wanna call it.

Some people use it in for instance Reiki to calm other people down and help their bodies relax that can have a good effect on their bodies natural healing ability.

originally posted by: [post=18294856]ParasuvO[/

I advise you to ask yourself strongly and CAREFULLY, what you are, and what you are going to do about it....

Freaky yes, but the answers within, are 1000's of times more potent than any meditation could be

Huh? That's exactly what meditation is...finding answers within.

Quite a few on ATS have confirmed that meditation is not always beneficial.

I recommend some research on it...

Try doing something different maybe.

originally posted by: OkieDokie
My mother still suffers from attacks at that house, as does my aunt. I believe that these shadow people gain strength from the use of occultic objects and rituals. In an attempt to get rid of the activity at the house, my mother has burned sage, hung up dream catchers, and surrounds herself with anything paranormal. She has tried demanding for this thing to leave and has gone through meditations and imagining light surrounding the house. Throughout all of this, the shadow person has at times stepped up the attacks, or has remained unchanged.

Others here have mentioned that they have only seen the shadow people while meditating. I believe that all of these activities give them an "in" if you will.

My life has finally been rid of these shadow people and the only way that has happened is from me drawing close to Christ, spending time in the Word, and getting rid of any idols, as well as anything new-agey, paranormal, occultic ect. Like I had mentioned before, I was a Christian prior to all of these things taking place, but I wasn't living like it.

originally posted by: JayinAR
I I was mad as hell when I ran my spooks off and they don't come around much anymore. Nowadays it is just your average poltergeist crap ever once in awhile. Also I would add that meditation is what kicked off the worst experiences for me. Be careful with that stuff.

originally posted by: JiggyPotamus
Certain spirits can and will follow certain people home, for whatever reason. Certain spirits are more powerful than others. Certain ones basically have more abilities than others. How they learn how to manipulate the physical world to varying degrees I do not know, but I know that some are more powerful than others. And there really are things out there that are pure evil, things I would not wish on anyone, even if they mocked such things. These things are just that bad.

It takes someone who truly knows what they are doing to rid a location of spirits, and even many of these people cannot rid a location of purely evil spirits. A place that was never haunted before can become haunted, but I would say that the majority of the time there was something done to bring these entities in. Dabbling in the occult is apt to accomplish this, but sometimes it only takes something as simple as meditating. Meditation opens a person up, or can at least, to such things. It can act as a beacon to certain entities. I don't know how often it happens, but I know it can happen, for whatever reason. So my advice to everyone is don't mess around, even if you "think" you know what you're doing

New Age deep meditation and hypnotism are particularly dangerous. They are not recognized as being channels to demons, but they provide a direct pathway for demonic influence upon the mind. Communication with demons

Meditation is the technique whereby a person empties his mind of all conscious thought, while chanting a series of repetitive words or phrases as many times as possible. Once a person does this repeatedly, he/she will begin to experience the phenomenon whereby the mind begins to lose its normal contact with the body. This phenomena is called an "Out-of-Body" experience, and is very common in occultic circles.

Once the mind loses its normal connection with the body the person then is ready to meet his/her "Guiding Spirit". Christian author, Johanna Michaelson, captures the Satanic essence of meditation and Guiding Spirits in her book, "The Beautiful Side Of Evil". Guiding Spirits identify themselves by name, including Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, or one of the Apostles.

The person who is involved is truly deceived into thinking they have just discovered THE one, true way to actually come into contact with God. In reality, they have just come into contact with a Satanic demon, who has temporarily transformed himself into a being appearing very kind, gentle, and wise. The stage is set for these demonic beings to manipulate and mislead their human victims. These people have become demonically possessed. WALK-INS

The human spirit has tremendous power. Because man is in bondage to sin, for him to access now his human spirit with his soul means using the power of the human spirit for greater evil and sin. That is why all religions outside of the Bible and Jesus Christ tell you to meditate by blanking your mind. Why? Satan is behind this teaching because he wants access to our human spirit and the tremendous power it holds to use for His evil purposes.

Since for this reason God does not want us to access our human spirit, the only way a religious person outside of Christ is able to access his human spirit is though demonic power, a demonic spirit bridging the human soul to the human spirit, but under the demonic spirit’s control. For this reason, God in His Word forbids us to access our human spirit.

The Human Spirit and Meditation

During meditation, a person descends to deeper levels of his consciousness where he discovers the psychic powers and spiritual gifts to heal himself and solve his problems. He meets “the god within” who is wrongly regarded as the God of the Bible. It is this “god” who is dark and mysterious, and may leave evil impressions in the subconscious mind of the person. Eastern Meditation Sneaks into the Church

a reply to: Subconsciously Correct

Nothing is happening to you. You are merely returning to your natural state of being. Don't fight it and just watch how it unfolds. The best part will come any moment now, don't miss it.

Meditation done regularly "uncork" your senses , so it's normal, with time you will get used to it.
Just relax, take the ticket and enjoy the ride.

Drugs are bad mkay..

a reply to: Subconsciously Correct

So.. I don't usually post very often these days, but this OP really was too close to my own experience to ignore it..

I've never been a very "consistent meditator" but I must also say that I have had the perspective of "karma yoga" since I can remember, and view all acts as a sort of "meditation" (though the meaning of that word becomes vague pretty quick) but lately I have had a natural urge to "sit" quietly in the morning and/or at night, and "catch my breath" so to speak.

I've been an "empath" for my entire life, but within just the last few years I have become so sensitive that I sometimes feel like my emotions are hijacked by those around me.. I've never been the most outgoing and social person, but during these same few years, I have both become more capable of being "intimate" with most people, but simultaneously I feel overwhelmed by most people's presence these days, let alone crowds of certain types..
(example: got off the boat from Canada, back in Seattle, and it took almost 2hours to get out of the city due to herds of seahawks fans.. i wasn't even annoyed at the delay, so much as i felt a melancholy and pity for that crowd.. i can't even articulate the feeling.)

my body has also become more sensitive in the same way. I used to eat and drink just about anything i wanted, and my body could seemingly process any combination of food.. six months ago, i had to start seeing a naturopath for heartburn and just overall indigestion with just about anything that was less than healthy..

My ears and eyes have been much more sensitive too. I'm a musician and artist and have always love to make some good cacophony (though i have been known to get annoyed by certain sounds for awhile), lately i absolutely cherish silence. I live on ten acres in the middle of an unincorporated area, and yet i find myself jumping or getting on edge, at the sound of the (maybe) 5 cars (and big trucks) i hear driving around..

Overall, i have no clue what sort of metamorphosis it is, but it does seem to be a definite "change" and I feel that i can relate to what you describe..

let me ask you two somewhat crazy questions:

1.) Do you have dreams where there is a lot of water involved? Not "reoccurring dreams" per se, but almost like a continuing timeline? I would say my dreams of this sort involve a "UFO" of a vague sort, about 90% of the time..

2.) Has it felt like time has sped up significantly.. like the days seem to pass quicker than ever..?
or perhaps this is just something which comes with getting older..?


I'm honestly not a person who is looking for "disclosure" everyday or really subscribing to any one belief or method, but I have significantly expanded my "realm of influences" as far as looking further into Taoism, Buddhism, Philosophy, and ancient bits of thought which have been all but forgotten.. can these changes simply be the physical body keeping pace with the intellect and spirit? or is this truly a change that is occurring within many people simultaneously..?

sorry if my post is rambling, but i would be interested in your thoughts

a reply to: Subconsciously Correct

Mindfulness instructed in the Buddhist canon is done not only during meditation, but all throughout the conscious day. The objective is to gain understanding.

One is to be mindful of the Four Frames of Reference.

One is mindful of: 1) Bodily action/events, 2) Sensation / feelings, 3) The "heart" /consciousness/mind/emotional - condition (citta), 4) Mind objects (or contents)

originally posted by: HyphenSt1
a reply to: Subconsciously Correct

So.. I don't usually post very often these days, but this OP really was too close to my own experience to ignore it..

I've never been a very "consistent meditator" but I must also say that I have had the perspective of "karma yoga" since I can remember, and view all acts as a sort of "meditation" (though the meaning of that word becomes vague pretty quick) but lately I have had a natural urge to "sit" quietly in the morning and/or at night, and "catch my breath" so to speak.

I've been an "empath" for my entire life, but within just the last few years I have become so sensitive that I sometimes feel like my emotions are hijacked by those around me.. I've never been the most outgoing and social person, but during these same few years, I have both become more capable of being "intimate" with most people, but simultaneously I feel overwhelmed by most people's presence these days, let alone crowds of certain types..
(example: got off the boat from Canada, back in Seattle, and it took almost 2hours to get out of the city due to herds of seahawks fans.. i wasn't even annoyed at the delay, so much as i felt a melancholy and pity for that crowd.. i can't even articulate the feeling.)

my body has also become more sensitive in the same way. I used to eat and drink just about anything i wanted, and my body could seemingly process any combination of food.. six months ago, i had to start seeing a naturopath for heartburn and just overall indigestion with just about anything that was less than healthy..

My ears and eyes have been much more sensitive too. I'm a musician and artist and have always love to make some good cacophony (though i have been known to get annoyed by certain sounds for awhile), lately i absolutely cherish silence. I live on ten acres in the middle of an unincorporated area, and yet i find myself jumping or getting on edge, at the sound of the (maybe) 5 cars (and big trucks) i hear driving around..

Overall, i have no clue what sort of metamorphosis it is, but it does seem to be a definite "change" and I feel that i can relate to what you describe..

let me ask you two somewhat crazy questions:

1.) Do you have dreams where there is a lot of water involved? Not "reoccurring dreams" per se, but almost like a continuing timeline? I would say my dreams of this sort involve a "UFO" of a vague sort, about 90% of the time..

2.) Has it felt like time has sped up significantly.. like the days seem to pass quicker than ever..?
or perhaps this is just something which comes with getting older..?


I'm honestly not a person who is looking for "disclosure" everyday or really subscribing to any one belief or method, but I have significantly expanded my "realm of influences" as far as looking further into Taoism, Buddhism, Philosophy, and ancient bits of thought which have been all but forgotten.. can these changes simply be the physical body keeping pace with the intellect and spirit? or is this truly a change that is occurring within many people simultaneously..?

sorry if my post is rambling, but i would be interested in your thoughts

Thanks for your reply.

Most of my dreams seem to involve me being in the house I grew up in. Since everything in a dream is representative of the self, I take that as a sign of me dealing with a part of myself from the past that still exists today (childhood had a lot of rough moments). I do occasionally have dreams of fishing in the water though (I used to fish, but not anymore).

I do feel like time is much faster but I cannot tell if that's because I am busier or not. I will say this: Meditation causes one to become engaged in the moment more during everyday life. The more I live in the moment, the faster time goes. "Time flies when you're having fun," if you will.

Plus, 'time' is a man made concept and does not actually exist. When one's perception changes, so does this perceived time.

Hi Subconsciously Correct,

I would say that I have had some similar experiences as you have had. I've been a meditant for about 20 years now continuously, and had meditant experiences prior to that too.

Certainly, many people will recount many stories about this, that and the other thing going on - it is an intensely personal experience - and each person will try to figure out head and tail of what they are going through and give you different interpretations - from which you will derive your own.

My personal experience is quite different from what people have recalled here on ATS thus far too. I too am interested in figuring things out and so I have a personal description that fits the situations I've been through. On the other hand I can't say it is entirely correct. I've had friends that could tell me something quite accurately about my future - but I've never encountered mechanisms by which that has occurred.

I've looked at meditation from a scientific perspective, trying to understand how it works - the mechanisms. Through my reasoning I've eventually found that there are human beings on this planet with technology that is capable of messing with your mind, and that is what people see as having good spirits, bad spirits, demons, angels and so on and so forth.... This is part of the reason why I feel it is dangerous to meditate in that the frustration of dealing with those who mess with your mind can break your external calm - and to ordinary observers who don't meditate or can't see what you are going through, you will be classified as "nuts".

There isn't a great deal of motivation for those who own the "fork tools" as I call it to allow you to become aware of their activities. So, in protecting their "turf", they may put you through hell.

Your mileage will therefore vary. On the other hand, I was introduced to meditation, rather roughly, yet gently - someone who owned one of these tools helped me figure things out because there was a motivation to use me as a means to help the owner of the tool to make money, once I was aware of his/her interference in my life. Mental slavery, if you will for money.

The absorption of emotions as you describe can be stopped, but I cannot describe the means to do so - it is really IMHO you just believing that others are projecting on to you, when it is really internally, you being made more sensitive to their emotional state of being. One way to test this theory is to wear a blindfold and sit in a room where you cannot hear/see the individual in question and try to guess what they are going through. If sight and sound are the cause of your empathy, then it might suggest that there is nothing beyond that. You may start to find you have to roll the dice to get the emotions right.

I guess I cannot appear to be correct to you all the time, because that would involve having to explain the mechanisms of my meditation and how it works to you - and that is a *LOT* of work on my part - not to mention a lot of trying to figure out how to explain it - which as you've seen is quite hard on paper.

What would I leave you with then? I'm not quite sure what to say... since people themselves, which is around whom you try to guage your experience, when you are not alone are in different places: wisdom wise, and meditationally, and beliefs wise.

There are those who say that your wisdom automatically increases with meditation. I'm not so sure of that, though it is a wise exercise in a sense. Clearing your mind does help you open your mind to things that are more factual, as opposed to fictional.

The tingling you are feeling may be just a side-effect caused by meditation - a lack of calm - they often do that to people, because you haven't balanced things right - not that you won't eventually figure it out - you might. I can only describe it a bit like hyperventillation - you head down a path, you don't clear it completely and so it causes a tic/irritation - in your case a tingling feeling - you don't necessarily feel this all of the time though.

I'll leave you with those thoughts.

As for time,

I haven't been able to cross time - not yet any way.

You do loosen your concept of time, when you meditate - it is particularly useful if you are aware of rhythms - so to free yourself.

Just thought I'd drop that in too.

originally posted by: Subconsciously Correct
ions.

What the heck is happening here? Am I going crazy?

You have become more emphathic, aware of others emotions, and have not yet learned to deal, or shield yourself from them.

How do I know this?

Years of going through the same type of experience with not much help, and learning on my own.

Unfortunately, we are not taught in schools how to deal with our true essences, only to deal with a life of being drones, and following a strict life plan.

Meditation is good, but not enough in the beginning to deal with all the doors that people open up and let a flood of external energies in.

I highly suggest you look into Black Tourmaline to wear. Make sure you cleans it every few days. Most likely many people are thinking new age BS. Think again! These practices trace back as far as recorded history.

Think of it like this would you go out in cold rainy weather without a rain jacket? same applies for emotions

And what type of jacket would we pick for cold weather, or rain, or wind? Most likely the answer would be different ones that fit the conditions.

Also would you continue to wear a jacket if it was muddy, or wet? This is where cleansing comes in, same applies for crystals.

Hope that helped, because more and more people are waking up to their true essence.


Peace,

RT