Ferguson police name Darren Wilson as officer who shot Michael Brown

originally posted by: Libertygal
a reply to: sheepslayer247

That's definitely the clothing he was seen laying dead in the street in. You can also tell he was 6'3-6'4", and 300+ lbs.

That is quite clear.

This also makes Dorian Johnson an accomplice, if they have him there, too.

I read somewhere that he was wearing khaki pants. Not shorts. Do they have pics of the crime scene? How do you know what he was wearing?

Not being defensive or anything....I'm really curious.

a reply to: zysin5

Look how this is getting plastered all over the web now. I am going to see many "repeats" of this assumptions. I hope these people better be ready to retract this EYE grabbing low energy vibrational tone.
Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson Shot and Killed Michael Brown After Alleged Robbery

e police department identified the officer involved as six-year veteran Darren Wilson. Police Chief Tom Jackson said Wilson, who has no disciplinary history, was responding to a robbery at a nearby convenience store when he encountered the teenager. Citizens attending the press conference immediately erupted in anger at the perceived insinuation that Brown may have been suspect in the robbery. Jackson did not stick around to answer questions.

But an information packet handed out to press details an incident at the convenience store involving Brown allegedly shoplifting a box of Swisher Sweets cigars:

I think it was wrong for them to say this, before the had all those over looking this case, do their job, and find out who it was on the security feed. I mean come on. This is just some poor law enforcement work. Lack of fore sight, Lack of compassionate, and all around not fit to wear a badge.

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
Either way, you're right that people should have waited to pass judgement in this case.

I agree. And I include myself. We'll have to see what the pictures, videos, and other reports say. But I have an EXTREMELY hard time believing that a suspect was able to get close enough to Warren, unimpeded, to push him back into his car. Someone has some 'spainin' to do. If he was that incompetent, the officer shouldn't be on the street.

Aww, snap! The cop was black?

Well, lots of people will have some egg on their face over this.

Still doesn't change what happened during the protests.

originally posted by: sheepslayer247

originally posted by: Libertygal
a reply to: sheepslayer247

That's definitely the clothing he was seen laying dead in the street in. You can also tell he was 6'3-6'4", and 300+ lbs.

That is quite clear.

This also makes Dorian Johnson an accomplice, if they have him there, too.

I read somewhere that he was wearing khaki pants. Not shorts. Do they have pics of the crime scene? How do you know what he was wearing?

Not being defensive or anything....I'm really curious.

I have seen the photos of him dead in the street, along with videos. He was wearing a white shirt, a black shirt underneath that, khaki shorts, and what someone called flip flops, may have been sandals.

The back of the shirt, from multiple angles, btw, shows NO entry or exit gunshot wounds, nor blood. All blood appeared to be from frontal wounds.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
Either way, you're right that people should have waited to pass judgement in this case.

I agree. And I include myself. We'll have to see what the pictures, videos, and other reports say. But I have an EXTREMELY hard time believing that a suspect was able to get close enough to Warren, unimpeded, to push him back into his car. Someone has some 'spainin' to do. If he was that incompetent, the officer shouldn't be on the street.

Agreed. I'm so glad that I waited to pass any judgment on this issue. Hell, I'm still going to sit the fence until this is all over.

a reply to: sheepslayer247
A link to the Daily Mail
The article says that the clothes on the convenience store robber are a match to what Brown was wearing when he was found dead on the street.

a reply to: butcherguy

There is some confusion, at the presser the Chief was very nervous and slid all over the place in his speech. I think he said the strong armed robbery was approx 2 hrs earlier than the actual shooting incident.

I'm trying to find a vid of the presser.

Des

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
Here's a link to a page with still of the QT camera footage.

Link

The stills only show an altercation and I can't tell if it's MB or not. I don't see a weapon drawn.

You won't see a weapon drawn. A 'strong arm robbery' is one where force and intimidation are used rather than a weapon.

a reply to: sheepslayer247

It doesn't matter that the cop was black either. My suspicion is that he's a police officer first. If there's a "black kid" on the street, he's a suspect to a cop. I mean, that's the mindset in many areas these days. So, it still could very well be a racial issue. The profiling of young black men is at an all-time high. Doesn't matter who's doing the profiling.

a reply to: zysin5

So now Micheal Brown was involved in a robbery... Seems kinda odd that it took them this long to share this tidbit of information. Didn't the original altercation with the cop involve Micheal Brown and a friend walking on the street instead of a sidewalk ? Seems to me that if he was a suspect in a robbery he would have been detained immediately.

Doesn't really change a thing, The cop shot an unarmed man.

The Crowd Chants.
*Hands up! Don't shoot!"

Brilliant! When I saw those videos this morning, it really brought a feeling of joy, and hope to all this. You can tell we have had enough. And we are making our voices heard.
This can now fully shift into the peaceful demonstration that it can become, and not just there, but all over the USA. In every town, and every time an injustice can happen to someone who is unarmed.
Sure he should not have ran, lets not get into all that some of you, okay.
Even running does not warrant being SHOT many times .

I was told Mike was shot 6 times.. But I think that is speculation as that report has not come out yet. We know he was shot more than twice.

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: sheepslayer247
A link to the Daily Mail
The article says that the clothes on the convenience store robber are a match to what Brown was wearing when he was found dead on the street.

Exactly. He was identified as a suspect. That was why he was stopped. I tried to explain this here 2 days ago. This is why the QT was called "ground zero", this is why it was looted, why it was burned down, and spray painted, "snitches get stitches".

The violence erupted because some members of the community got angry that the QT called the police and took matters into their own hands.

Not to mention, when the officer saw them, Michael and Dorian, they were carrying the evidence. Dorian attested to that on MSNBC, when he called them dorillos, and said Michael's hands were full. When the cop allegedly reached his arm out and choked a 6'3" Michael from a car window, Michael said to Dorian, "Here, hold these," handing the cigars to Dorian.

I have tried to tell you guys this...

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Have you heard the narrative by the friend? I thought he was telling half truths. Cop pulls up 'for no reason' goes to open the door and get out and 'accidentally' it gets pushed back on him. Then the cop freaks out. I was thinking the two were doing more than jay walking.

Doesn't change my opinion of the police response the other night

I said day one in the initial OP he was black they just had not released his name. ISorry, but with the stills and the evidence now here that he did rob the store, no matter what for, shows he is a bully and a punk. He was not an angel ready to head off to school. He was robbing some sweets to 'roll a bllunt' wanna bet? Anyone? Anyone?

"Maybe" the kid was high when the cop rolled up on him. He goes after the cop. He has been described as possibly armed and now he is attacking a cop in a car. If you listen to the 'eyewitness account' none of it adds up.

Another clear case of when keeping it real goes wrong....

Jackson said Wilson, along with other officers, were called to the area after a 911 call reporting a "strong-arm" robbery just before noon Saturday at a convenience store.

CBS affiliate KMOV reports that according to the incident report from the robbery, Michael Brown was named as a suspect. Brown, and an acquaintance, identified only as Johnson, reportedly took several boxes of cigars from the convenience store. An unnamed witness then called 911. Moments later, Brown allegedly grabbed a victim and pushed him against shelves in the store.

Jackson said that a dispatcher gave a description of the robbery suspect, and Wilson, who had been assisting on another call, was sent to investigate. Wilson, a six-year veteran of the police department, encountered Brown just after 12:01 p.m., with a second officer arriving three minutes later.

Wilson was treated for injuries after the shooting, Jackson said.

Police have said Brown was shot after an officer encountered him and another man on the street. They say one of the men pushed the officer into his squad car, then physically assaulted him in the vehicle and struggled with the officer over the officer's weapon. At least one shot was fired inside the car before the struggle spilled onto the street, where Brown was shot multiple times, according to police.

Witnesses have said the officer fired on Brown as he tried to run away.

Big boy...could have been shot from inside the car...started to run and more shot fired. Sad for the parents but your kids are who they emulate from the neighborhood.

originally posted by: TheMainEvent
a reply to: zysin5
Doesn't really change a thing, The cop shot an unarmed man.

Right no matter what here. He shot a man with his hands up in the air.

There where no weapons found as they where walking back from the store they said. And there was an "Armed Robbery" report. So the store was being robbed at gun point.

When they pulled over Mike and his buddy. Where was all the loot, and weapons used for robbery. They where just walking back from the circle K on their block.
The Store robbed was in another 4-6 Blocks away from his home Circle K.

I agree, something fishy, either way they have to answer to that simple point,
Even if Mike was trying to flee, or get away. Does not warrant being shot, that is just crazy!

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: sheepslayer247

It doesn't matter that the cop was black either. My suspicion is that he's a police officer first. If there's a "black kid" on the street, he's a suspect to a cop. I mean, that's the mindset in many areas these days. So, it still could very well be a racial issue. The profiling of young black men is at an all-time high. Doesn't matter who's doing the profiling.

He is the President of the Ethical Society of Police.
Maybe he 'profiled' the suspect by way of the clothing he was wearing at the scene of the robbery?

a reply to: butcherguy

They just claimed on that very question.
They said the Red hat he was wearing.

(Red hats are very uncommon and hats in general are not worn by the African Americans males wear.) *rolls eyes

Next thing you know.. Stories will come up.. Red Hat, Mike Browns Ties to the Bloods.. You watch.. I see it already.
And am posting it here and dating this ... 10:52 Eastern Time. 8-15-1014
Slander and propaganda. Turncoats, so many factors. provocateurs, outsiders. Fake Anon, The Clan, The Black Panther party. Cop Department mis use of force. Knuckle head civilians taking advantage of the situation to loot and rob local stores ....
(but they are insured, no love lost over some stuff and buildings,)

a reply to: zysin5

Right no matter what here. He shot a man with his hands up in the air.

This is apparently what his possible accomplice said.

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: sheepslayer247

It doesn't matter that the cop was black either. My suspicion is that he's a police officer first. If there's a "black kid" on the street, he's a suspect to a cop. I mean, that's the mindset in many areas these days. So, it still could very well be a racial issue. The profiling of young black men is at an all-time high. Doesn't matter who's doing the profiling.

Yes, we need to address the profiling issue because there does seem to be a problem. I was just saying that there were many claiming this was an act by a racist white cop.....turns out he was black.