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Russian military vehicles enter Ukraine as aid convoy stops short of border

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posted on Aug, 15 2014 @ 08:24 AM
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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: demus


according to your side Russia is providing weapons and men all the time so how did the rebels got into such a bad situation with all that help?


Where does anyone say that "Russia is providing weapons and men all the time?" If you can't provide a link, please apologize for "misspeaking."



you said in your previous post:




It's called "reinforcement." It's what you do when your side is weakening.



what are Russians reinforcing if you think they didn't have any troops there?



to make it all simple let us dismiss at least some media lies and admit that there are no troops in Ukraine and there are no reinforcement coming.

yet.



posted on Aug, 16 2014 @ 01:37 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Any thread or opinion started by you, I take with truckload of salt.

I've been reading ATS long time before joining, you get no trust from me.



posted on Aug, 16 2014 @ 04:15 AM
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a reply to: demus


what are Russians reinforcing if you think they didn't have any troops there?


Did I say they don't have troops there? They admit they have "volunteers," ie; Chechen and Cossack mercenaries. The operative phrase is "all the time." They have been unable to reinforce or rearm their "volunteers" since the Ukrainians regained control. This "humanitarian aid" convoy will allow them to inject fresh fighters into what little territory they still control. 250 men will not be enough to regain what they have lost, but it will allow Luhansk to struggle on, taxing Ukraine's resources and preventing them from consolidating their gains and starting to rebuild the social order.

But of course, you think Putin is an incompetent idiot who is incapable of such strategic brilliance.



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 08:12 PM
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in the last couple of days, armoured vehicles, troops and weapons, have been crossing the border into Ukraine including 2 BUK missile systems.
And it's paying off, great losses on the Ukrainian side.

Message from Strellkove himself.



08.17.14 Interview with Vladimir Rogov. Junta carries huge losses.

The leader of the Slavic Guards, Co Popular Front "New Russia" Vladimir Rogov spoke about the mass death of Ukrainian executioners.
According to Vladimir Rogov, Ukrainian media constantly distort the facts. When it comes to Ukrainian losses, pro-American puppet or shamefully silent, or blatantly lie.
Information about the situation at the front, which is drained to Poroshenko, fell into the hands of Vladimir Rogov. According to these data, as of August 15, in the ranks of punitive 200hsotyh 23498 and 300 hundredths, 158 prisoners, and a large number of deserters.
Huge losses junta carries in the last days. But the terrible figures for mothers Ukrainian soldiers remain without publicity.
Only in South boiler ukrofashistov killed far more than the stated 4000 Total losses punitive terrifying, but the Nazis did not intend to stop and re-send for slaughter in Novorossia raw flesh.
Junta also loses a lot of officers, although those can be called a stretch, because fratricide not only erased their military appearance, but also human.
I should say that in the Donbas hundreds killed Western mercenaries. Although the facts of their presence on the territory of the former Ukrainian studiously ignored pro-American media, insurance payments for their deaths have to pay. In addition, the Army Novorossia permanently destroys a huge amount of military equipment of the enemy, and captures it as a trophy.
Russian soldiers are sure to win, because for them God and His truth.


And do look at the pictures from the message on 15 aug, that is the explanation as to why those trucks were so empty.

Russia - Ukraine 1-0



posted on Aug, 17 2014 @ 10:33 PM
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a reply to: earthling42

So the Russian in charge of part of the rebels is admitting the supplies / equipment / weapons / etc going to pro Russian rebels are coming from Russia?



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 05:03 AM
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a reply to: Xcathdra

Not in a direct way, acquisition of goods and finance is done in Russia, collecting and purchase of goods in Moscow.
The money comes from financial backers all over the world, and is used to buy the needed gear.
This is done by people who support the so called separatists.



posted on Aug, 18 2014 @ 09:41 AM
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More aid for Luhansk



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