Proof That "Om" Binds Our DNA

a reply to: Aural

I think that you are touching on deep parts of this subject.

Perhaps it is not so much the specific waveforms, but the landscape (soundscape in this instance) in which all of the noises are contained.

As a side note, I was taught that Om (Aum) should be practiced as two distinct sounds. The "O (Au)" is generated deeper in the throat as the "M" is generated in the mouth simutaneously. Then the mind is used to focus on the surrounding silence and noise. The process is distinct to both individual and location.

I am thankful for this thread because it made me watch the video once again that I linked on the first page. That video basically expounds on sound, frequency, and geometry and how they all connect. It says it is 30+ minutes long but really it is about 18-20 mins (can't remember exact amount) and then the rest of the video is just patterns\holographic images.

The video expounds upon 432 hz and how 432 also connects to geometry and distances (moon, sun, ect.). It really is one of the coolest videos I have ever watched.

a reply to: Subconsciously Correct

Thanks for sharing that, I'm sure a lot of people haven't seen it - to be honest though, i feel like a lot of the distance to the sun stuff etc is arbitrary as well though - i mean a mile is an invented unit of measurement - why not kilometer? Or inches? I think it's more coincidental, but if you can shed some light on that for me and others, that'd be cool!

Also, glad this thread is reaching so many, and with such great reception and replies and info!
Thanks and cheers to all, I don't know how to make this a reply to more than one post at once...but really happy to be sharing and discussing all this here with everyone! I honestly couldn't have finished my book without having this site to try things out in. Good people, good times, that's why even though the OP subject matter didn't make it into the book, i wanted to share it here with open minded people.

a reply to: Serdgiam

Yes, I understand it as this: the "pluta" the shape that looks like a "3" in the most commonly recoggnized (out of 13 btw) Om/AUM symbols, actually does mean 3. "A" is C#, "U" is the G# 5th, "M" is the C# 1 octave higher, in a raga - of course when chanting, it's just the C# but you usually start a little flat and rise up through it. The silence is the 4th "morae" or beat or length of time -
so in my vibro-acoustic sessions, i use 15 seconds followed by 5 seconds of silence. That makes 3 repetitions per minute. When I breathe in time with it, it's like a roller coaster when you exhale and sit in the silent emptiness of space - and when I chant it with it, I feel like I'm going to levitate, it freaks me out, and I stop lol...gonna keep workin on that, it's a big part of why i do what i do - to help myself too

a reply to: Bachrk

No problemo. I do sell CDs myself, and do my sound-healing work. I, and my company are actually accredited by the American Council of Holistic healers and the World Metaphysical Association because of my book and the work i do, and the international conference of people who work in the field, which Susan Alekjander and I are forming.
I will begin experimenting with the DNA semitones soon - i'm kind-of waiting to get a sitar, and learn to play it based on tuning close as i can to the DNA frequencies.

SO anyhoo, you can trust mine, lol, and I'm not here to sell stuff - I do have tracks on soundcloud to share in this type of instance. Of course people end up wanting to hear what i've done with the info. Some i went all the way to the Integratron to record, so if you find yourself drifting off to the desert when listening to those, that's why...enjoy

soundcloud.com...

a reply to: KAOStheory

I was taught to do it without any pauses, so on both the inhale and exhale. It sounded pretty funny until I started doing it more..

Haven't done anything like that in a while though. Guess it was just a phase

a reply to: KAOStheory

OM does not bind DNA. The reason for creation (called God) has several powers but His powers cannot be seen or heard by human senses.

"Veda" calls the creation "maya" or magic because the self-occurring elements ("tattv" in Sanskrit) cannot create this Universe. It is only with the power of God that these elements transform into visible Universe where we live.

The sound of Vedic hymns has to be learnt from a learned Teacher. The correct sound is very important. Vedic hymns cannot be learnt from a book. The meaning of Vedic hymn can only be explained by the enlightened (the one who has attained Samadhi). Other people cannot understand meaning of vedic hymns.

Vedic hymns contain magical powers that can be utilized by a properly trained person.

Vedic hymns start showing their powers only once the person chanting the hymns has purified his body and mind through strict "anushashan" for several years. A normal person cannot use a Vedic hymn.

The Western people are greatly confused about the nature of God and powers of God. The powers of God are available only to Godly people. The normal humans are afflicted by hate, jealousy etc. which degrades a human to worse than an animal.

a reply to: Serdgiam

lol
did you do it to C# 136.10Hz or an octave? just curious...
I'm in Chicago, and we have a place called King Spa. One in Dallas, and one in NY too i think...no maybe the other is in Korea, it's a Korean chain, anyhoo... Anyone into crystals, just google "King Spa", they're all amazing with giant amethyst geodes and etc..
So they have a "salt room" in the one here, a perfect parabolic dome. First time i ever tried chanting "Om" was in there, with my gf at the time. I have a pretty deep voice, and was hitting the 68.5Hz C#. Came out and the people workin there were just looking at me crazy like they didn't really expect a big tall white punk rock lookin guy to come walking out, lol.

a reply to: GargIndia

That i understand. But why do you assume i am a "normal person"?

Do you think i didn't learn Om from a teacher? I did. And now, I teach.

I don't mean to sound conceited, but you assume things about me that you do not know, or should i say, you assume i am just a "normal person" who reads and repeats things from the interwebs.

Read through the entire thread, and tell me if you have the same opinion.
Everyone here would point at the (one of 13) symbols and say "that IS OM" but as soon as i say, "it is this sound, and this sound can be utilized", people want to disagree.

it's ok, i was waiting for you

a reply to: KAOStheory

There is no intention to downgrade you. My job is to put things in correct perspective.

My good wishes to you and your teacher.

Unfortunately 99.99% of my own countrymen are ignorant about Veda at this time. So finding a learned Teacher is not very easy.

The meaning of Ohm has been explained by my Teacher and is available on the Internet. If you have doubts, you can start a conversation with him.

The sound of Ohm has a number of beneficial effects on humans and the planet. It is same as sound of Vedic hymns. The humans that hear Vedic hymns regularly, develop "sattv" or pious qualities.

a reply to: GargIndia

Agreed. I use the true vedic system to identify it.
As a matter of fact i had an extensive conversation recently about the sitar, the C#, the semi-tones, and the Earth-Star Chakra and others. I don't doubt or question this system by any means.

But i live and work in Chicago, in the US. Most people i do work on barely understand the Chakras or any concept of Om or the Schumann Resonance they use in their Kirtan bands - nor do they understand from where that came. I'm sure you are familiar with Yogananda. Maybe even his involvement with the Integratron.

My purpose here is also to correct what may be misconstrued, like using the C major A440 scale and thinking it will attune the Chakras. It won't.

I use the octaves of the colors, and everything else falls into place. This isn't only derived from vedic tuning and theories, it is more scientific - again, don't use a green note with a red light or crystal. The Rosicrucians (AMORC) call it the Cosmic Keyboard, and in present day most of their lodges don't know the notes on their chart are not the same as those on the piano in the lobby, or the pitch-pipe they use for their vocalization practices. I am not a member, but I have family connections and a lot of their information, and a lot of others. They actually invented the Luxatone, the only color-organ to accurately and simply multiply the sound into color and light. However, they believe Kundalini is dangerous, and apply a gland-system (almost identical to the chakras of course) as "energy centers" (indeed), however that means the machine never saw it's full potential for sound healing and chromatherapy, because they don't associate the Solar Spectrum to these centers as we do with Chakras. That information, on the colors, btw, first arose from Steiner in 1910, brought from his studies in India. It may be a Westenization, but it's still based in Vedic systems. So it's the combination of information from several groups and theories and cultures and traditions, who can't see the forest for the trees - effectively becoming what they first sought to be above, clouded by blindly following their leaders rather than their own intuitions and meditations and science.

So I use this as a simply scientific system, highly effective, and it's still comprehensive to those only beginning to learn - again, as you will see throughout the thread. Again, when I am able to purchase the sitar, I will thoroughly examine not only the more Vedic system, but in relation to the DNA semitones as a study.

a reply to: GargIndia

Here is a picture of me learning a valuable lesson from some of my teachers -
don't think Tibetan Monks won't slam you in a mean game of water b-ball. He's about to biff me right in the face.
Consider yourselves warned.

link to my book's pdf now in my signature. thanks all, enjoy!

a reply to: KAOStheory
I'm sure he could learn to overtone sing or do chants of mantras easily which would be of more use. I randomly found many videos on youtube on how to overtone throat sing and I with no singing experience am even able to produce the overtones and i do not even have that deep of a voice which generaly helps. Though im not perfect on it.

The short explanation on how to do it is using a part of the throat below the voice box to make very deep notes without hurting your throat and you place your tongue in your mouth in a position like you would when making an "L" sound then sound out vowels which makes a chamber of throat, mouth and nose that can form the singing of two notes at a time (although more is possible). The alteration between "o" and "ee" sounds is easiest to produce an overtone for me. The overtone will sound like a whistling of humming like noise over top of the base note and on a visual display of frequencies you will see each notes separate from eachother. Personally I find the people able to go very low have the most power behind it because the vibrations pass through your body it feels but the higher pitches are nice as well. Doing high pitches i think is a different kind of overtone singing.

Heres a video showing a few of the different styles of overtone throat singing to save time. Although this guy isnt really singing words much just doing the overtones. Some styles words can be formed others cant so easily.


Do you think that is more to your use?

There is a short list of modern uses of overtone singing here some of which are in metal bands which may get his interest knowing he can put it to use occasionally.


Oh I see. I had presumed you were speaking of Pythagorean because every place Ive seen A432, the Pythagorean tuning is also mentioned. But where does the concept of A440 being damaging coming from? Only thing ive seen is conspiracy theories about nazis. I have not particularly seen evidence for it at the moment. When I see someone speak of A432 its always anecdotal people saying it sounds better to them to tune to it so its hard to tell if its a placebo effect or not. Ive also seen someone write something here which they did an experiment to see what people prefer and they prefer 440 but as people pointed out that is what people are used to so its hard to say if its what they were used to or if its better and pitch shifting is not the same exactly as presenting music tuned to 432 rather than pitch shift to it. The only thing I found interesting was this video. Although to jump from more complete geometric forms to better healthy is a bit of a leap still.

a reply to: KAOStheory

You dont have functional URL, just a file path of where it is on your computer.

a reply to: Aural

oops about the PDF, i'll try and fix that.
Thanks for the throat singing info and link, i'll pass it on to my friend, i'm sure he'll look into it and try to learn how to do it right. i hope anyway!
i've said this repeatedly here and elsewhere, but again, in A440 you get pulsing dissonance in the strings. it was NOT proposed by the Nazis, Radio Berlin was in favor of it for broadcast purposes. The higher you tune, the more dissonance and the faster the pulse rate. That's why people promoting the "Solfeggio" hoax tell you, "don't worry about the other tones, just tune up to A444 and once in a blue moon you'll hit just one of these magic frequencies, but good enough."
They just want you to tune up and distract you from real sound healing information. It's also a stress on the voice, and strings, and string instruments and keyboards always sound out of tune. You can find everything you need to know about the actual physics of pitch and A440's true origin in my older post here - www.abovetopsecret.com...
Maria Renold's book "Intervals, Scales, Tones, and the Concert Pitch C=128" is great too but it's not cheap.
It includes a lot of info on Pythagorean and other temperaments. These older Greek modalities could be of a lot of use to someone who fully understands them, and i'll be the first to admit it's a bit over my head at the time.
The reason people constantly bring up temperaments in these discussions is either a, they don't understand, or b, they are trying to distract you.
The "Solfeggio" nutters and those who don't really understand A432 do not suggest you retune your guitar to Pythagorean or Just Temperament, because you can't. Again, they are either naive or deceitful, either way, they are wrong. Again, my post linked above explains this fully. Hope it helps!

a reply to: KAOStheory

It was never static, or set in stone. The process is unique to both individual and environment. Its a 'dance' more than anything else.

@Aural;

I think this video:



Shows a process that is a bit closer to what I have been shown. The exercises beyond just making the noises moved 'things' much like in the video. The closest analog is dancing, where its not just about 'you,' but what/who you are dancing with. In that, it involved any number of tones, timbres, etc. To determine results, the importance was placed on their interaction and not what was interacting (I.e. specific frequencies that work across the board).

I also feel its important to understand that this is not exclusive to sound, which is where I think many place their focus. The sound exercises were shown to me as "beginner" practices, even though they seemed much more profound than that at the time. I eventually understood what was meant though.

a reply to: Serdgiam

well put.
i do think it's great that they are doing these experiments, using extremely high frequencies to levitate extremely tiny things. however, and i'm sure they know, it's much easier to levitate, let's say a 20 ton block of limestone for example, with a lower frequency which is within our hearing range.

a reply to: KAOStheory

Yeah, anything German related at the time people love to make a nazi conspiracy out of whether an actual nazi is involved or not. Its silly.

Sorry If I miss anything as its easy for this stuff to go over my head with my lack of familiarity to music theory which is hard to learn with my attention levels. I have been reading over everything. So the issue with A440 is more like a physics thing where the strings can not handle it well? If thats the case does that hold for other instrument types as well or no?

I may need to look up more examples of various instruments tuned different ways to just listen. I've so far only seen a vid of a guitar but I could not make much conclusive judgement on it. The 432 sounded better than 440 to me for higher notes. The 440 sounded out of tune in comparison. However lower notes I was unsure of since some sounded possibly worse or unchanged but this was either this persons tuning being off or bad playing or the lower notes dont sound right to me with that tuning. Could be any of those.

Oh and I noticed in that other threat you mentioned making DnB. The subgenre Liquid Funk is one of the other genres of music that has some effect on my conciousness.

I was recently watching a documentary that had mentioned Nada Brahma and the Akasha and I sort of was wondering if sound has fractal forms. I also remember back to hearing about string theory where everything is made of vibrating strings which is very musical seeming to me despite sound not being part of that scientific theory as far as I am aware.

Also I forgot if it was on the same docu but something was mentioned of synesthesia (ive known people with it) and it reminded me of the opening comment you made in this thread about sound and sight being same in astral fields. Well a person with synaesthesia has a mix of senses. What senses being mixed differs but any sense can be experienced as a different sense. Sound can be colours, sound can be pain, sound can be taste and other ways around.

Now directing back to the original topic a bit C# Om binding DNA well what kind of implication would repeating the sound really have? You do seem to presume positive effects but wouldnt a resonance not necessarily be good but could make bonds act usually? Although it could go other way maybe form a better structure of sound for DNA replication without error but who knows since its very thought based speculation at what to do with such info.

a reply to: Serdgiam

That looks pretty surreal but isnt that essentially just the same as using high pressured air? The sound just makes it easier to choreograph the air movement.

a reply to: Aural

no worries, the thread is gettin' longish
yes it makes keyboards sound worse too the higher you tune, any polyphonic instrument. Horns can and do tend to adjust for it easier because they are monopoly, meaning they only play one note at a time.

there's a whole album of DnB i made in A432 back in the mid '90's on my soundcloud page
soundcloud.com...

also my buddy does some great downtempo stuff in A432;
soundcloud.com...

and i happened upon a guy named Graham Jackson who does some nice chill more classical piano improvisations in A432, he has 2 albums on Amazon - one was $10 and one was $2 i think.

well i suppose "binds" is a generalization of their findings. they said, "draws the other tones together," "binds it all into one mass" that kind of thing. when working with vibration therapy and brainwave entrainment, it's based on sympathetic vibration - basically, like attracts like, and can even MAKE alike. Dale Pond continues John Worrell Keely's work at his spot in Colorado, check out the machines for free energy and levitation at svpvril.com, svp standing for sympathetic vibratory physics. The word Vril, despite internet bs and secret societies, is generally know by those in the occult world as meaning the same as prana, chi, life-force, but more specifically the quantifiable frequencies such as reiki or energy work - which are generally the same as brianwave frequencies, and peak most often at the Schumann Resonance. But anyhoo, sympathetic vibratory physics is what happens in brainwave entrainment, or how when you strike one tuning fork or string, another of the same pitch nearby will vibrate "in sympathy." There are demos of this on YouTube as well.

personally if i chant Om at the C#, or use my C# singing bowl, or attend an event where the Monks chant at the C#, or do one of my own vibro-acoustic sessions, the feelings are beyond words.

all week i've done sessions and reiki on my singer, my room-mate, and others - all women - all pms'ing - on the full moon - and i'm a Cancer - and i got sharp pains in my stomach and had a hard time not crying myself to sleep about nothing. i really have to work on releasing that stuff.

like creates like. sympathetic vibratory physics.