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originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: GenerationGap
How can anyone, on any side of the political spectrum or world, still believe in disarming American citizens when America has tanks rolling in her streets?
Think about that. Think about the "coincidence" that exists. The government is rolling tanks out onto city streets while at the same time trying to convince that same America to disarm. Anyone who think the timing of things is simply incidental, think again.
Or could it possible be that the police are forced to be this heavily armed due to the fact that the populace is heavily armed as well?
The American public is never going to be better armed than the police or the military...it is just a pipe dream of 2nd amendment supporters.
It's like a security blanket for them...they tell themselves that their guns are going to protect them from the big bad government...but if it came down to it...their guns will do absolutely nothing to protect them.
originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
a reply to: ikonoklast
It didn't change, but there are many people who want it to when it comes to the slightest issue. You have those that do not understand the basic concept of it and want to change words here and there when the going gets a little tough. They fail to realize that if it is allowed to change JUST ONCE then it will be changed any damned time somebody feels like changing it.
There are many that would give up their own constitutional rights and have others stripped of their's at the drop of a hat.
Well, I want them to assemble BUT....
Well, I want them to be able to speak BUT....
Well, I want them to be able to protect themselves BUT....
Idiocy spreads like the plague at times. I will leave others free to give up all their rights if they wish. I will be fighting to make sure they don't expect me to do the same.
LOS ANGELES — The police shot and killed an unarmed black man in South Los Angeles on Monday night, the Los Angeles Police Department said. The police said that the man, whom the department did not identify, had tackled an officer and lunged for the weapon in his holster before being shot at by both the officer and his partner.
originally posted by: kruphix
. . . . .a mob that has rioted and looted for the past 3 nights with photo evidence that they were armed while doing it...I would be an idiot to be surprised that the police are responding with force and with guns.
These aren't freedom fighters...these are idiots who know that there have been riots the past 3 nights and still claim this is a peaceful protest.
originally posted by: kruphix
If I am voluntarily participating in a mob that has rioted and looted for the past 3 nights with photo evidence that they were armed while doing it...I would be an idiot to be surprised that the police are responding with force and with guns.
These aren't freedom fighters...these are idiots who know that there have been riots the past 3 nights and still claim this is a peaceful protest.
originally posted by: ikonoklast
They are talking about shots fired on the police scanner feeds now. But it's not clear whether that is related to this or if it's something else.
originally posted by: SCGrits
a reply to: SubTruth
This is actually a very bad thing because protesting is crucial for people to be heard and blow off steam. Just to set the record straight I am talking about peaceful protests not rioting or looting.
I am so glad we are in agreement on this point, that protest is crucial when a body feels their rights have been abused. When and if it gets to a personal level in their own backyard, believe me, people will protest.
Ppl may be upset at politics and it's direction and grouse til the cows come home, but when it hits family, neighborhood and/or pocketbook, ppl will howl in protest en masse.
originally posted by: jholt5638
originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: GenerationGap
How can anyone, on any side of the political spectrum or world, still believe in disarming American citizens when America has tanks rolling in her streets?
Think about that. Think about the "coincidence" that exists. The government is rolling tanks out onto city streets while at the same time trying to convince that same America to disarm. Anyone who think the timing of things is simply incidental, think again.
Or could it possible be that the police are forced to be this heavily armed due to the fact that the populace is heavily armed as well?
The American public is never going to be better armed than the police or the military...it is just a pipe dream of 2nd amendment supporters.
It's like a security blanket for them...they tell themselves that their guns are going to protect them from the big bad government...but if it came down to it...their guns will do absolutely nothing to protect them.
At least they are willing to defend themselves and their own. If it were me I would everything to insure that the people I care about were protected from any threat be it a criminal who breaks into my home or LE who would harm them.
Another way to put it is from a quote from Emiliano Zapata "I rather die on my feet than live upon my knees."
originally posted by: Greven
Why would members of a community burn it down? That is a very good question, now isn't it?
And what's the simplest explanation? It isn't necessarily their community that they are burning down.
originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: SubTruth
They used to want to keep the peace now it is all about money and control.
After 3 nights of riots and looting...I think showing up in force like this was about keeping the peace.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: kruphix
. . . . .a mob that has rioted and looted for the past 3 nights with photo evidence that they were armed while doing it...I would be an idiot to be surprised that the police are responding with force and with guns.
These aren't freedom fighters...these are idiots who know that there have been riots the past 3 nights and still claim this is a peaceful protest.
That's pretty close to what I'm hearing from someone who lives there.
She also said the press is badgering the police, pushing them to give the name of the cop who did the shooting. They were hindering the police. They were not innocent bystanders.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: kruphix
. . . . .a mob that has rioted and looted for the past 3 nights with photo evidence that they were armed while doing it...I would be an idiot to be surprised that the police are responding with force and with guns.
These aren't freedom fighters...these are idiots who know that there have been riots the past 3 nights and still claim this is a peaceful protest.
That's pretty close to what I'm hearing from someone who lives there.
She also said the press is badgering the police, pushing them to give the name of the cop who did the shooting. They were hindering the police. They were not innocent bystanders.
www.ksdk.com...
ST. LOUIS COUNTY – A federal civil rights investigation has been opened by the Justice Department into the fatal shooting of Michael Brown, according to the U.S. Attorney's office of Eastern District of Missouri.
In a joint statement from U.S. Attorney Richard Callahan, Acting Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Division Molly Moran and FBI SAC William Woods, the independent investigation will determine if any federal civil rights violations have occurred in the case.
Saturday afternoon, a police officer shot Brown, who was unarmed, according to local authorities. According to the release, the federal authorities will work with local law enforcement to determine state violations as well.
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: kruphix
If I am voluntarily participating in a mob that has rioted and looted for the past 3 nights with photo evidence that they were armed while doing it...I would be an idiot to be surprised that the police are responding with force and with guns.
These aren't freedom fighters...these are idiots who know that there have been riots the past 3 nights and still claim this is a peaceful protest.
The hilarious thing is that you believe this.
You conflate the looters and rioters with the protestors.
Which makes more sense to you:
A) Criminals take advantage of wide unrest and protest to steal stuff then run away.
B) People loot stores, burn things down, then protest in front of a bunch of cops who would love to arrest them for looting/arson.
Why would members of a community burn it down? That is a very good question, now isn't it?
And what's the simplest explanation? It isn't necessarily their community that they are burning down.